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FirmhandKY -> RE: Obama authorizes killing of US citizen (4/10/2010 8:18:20 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY
Polite,
Might I be so bold as to suggest that you read the OP's linked article, and even Ron's article, for a more detailed understanding?
Firm
How will my re reading the OP affect the authorisation handed down by Congress ? Why dont you just stick to the point.
I am sticking to the point. You seem to be missing the point.
The issue is that while the Bush admin authorized strikes against AQ, without regard to the nationality of the members just after 9/11 (and the Bush admin never claimed the right to simply assassinate American citizens, but rather to simply attack AQ members), they did not specifically target an American for assassination under that authorization. In fact, that same concept of ignoring the rights of an American citizen was legislated in our court systems, and was held to be illegal (Hamdi vs Rumsfeld 2004).
The Obama administration has now specifically targeted an American for assassination under that authorization.
Potentiality versus reality. Claiming the right, and expanding on, and exercising the expanded right.
This is said quite well in both articles. Did you miss it? You see no difference between claiming something, and acting on those claims?
If I claimed I wanted to be the new Tsar of Russian, it's one thing. If I go to Russia and fomet a rebellion, recruit an army and attack the government of Russia is an entirely different matter.
If I claimed that some woman who I'd never met should now be my wife, and I should have the right to insert my penis into her at any time, that's one thing. Going to her home, sneaking into her house, and raping her is an entirely different matter.
Here, no less an "authority" than Keith Olbermann agrees with me (video).
Quote "it is a power not even claimed by the Bush/Chaney administration".
What I find particularly enlightening about this is the seeming willful blindness and lack of concern about the issue by many of the same people who complained and protested most viciferiously about the Bush admin's "illegal" use of wiretaps, the "illegal" holdings of both American and non-American citizens, and other such lesser affronts against our Constitutional rights, compared to an assassination order without any due process.
Kudos to Olbermann (who is not known as friendly to Bush or friendly to anyone right of center) and Glenn Greenwald, whose article started this debate (and whose most recent book, "Great American Hypocrites", examines the manipulative electoral tactics used by the GOP and propagated by the establishment press), again, not a particularly right leaning individual.
What is it that you think is equal between the policy under Bush and the policy now under Obama?
Firm
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