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ORIGINAL: Phoenix73Sir

My personal style is mind and word based. I have a strong enough personality that I am able to express my thoughts well in words (as opposed to typing them where i seem to fail in conveying the jist of what I am attempting to say sometimes).  My ability to use logic and mould an argument to my way of thinking is pretty wel developed.

Play punishment is one thing but day to day is another all together. Personally speaking I would have no isse punishing during play.

The point of the thread was pretty much for me to understand those who seem to feel the need to be more physical than mental in their discipline.

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ORIGINAL: Phoenix73Sir

There are those who are brought up to believe that you NEVER under any circumstances hit a woman.  For some that belief can make dealing out physical pain a struggle.  Bearing this in mind, do you believe it is possible to maintain control and dicipline without the need for any sort of physical interactrion?

Examples might be, ignoring an s for a period or asstertive talks and there are doubtless many other methods, but from experience does this work or does it eventually make the Dom look less authorative or weaker?

This is a general question and all views are welcome.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: Phoenix73Sir

There are those who are brought up to believe that you NEVER under any circumstances hit a woman.  For some that belief can make dealing out physical pain a struggle.  Bearing this in mind, do you believe it is possible to maintain control and dicipline without the need for any sort of physical interactrion?

Examples might be, ignoring an s for a period or asstertive talks and there are doubtless many other methods, but from experience does this work or does it eventually make the Dom look less authorative or weaker?

This is a general question and all views are welcome.

From where I sit, you're actually asking two different questions here.  I've read the thread and saw the further clarification, but I'm going to address the above.

To answer what I think you were trying to ask, yes you can.  The control that I have over clip doesn't change based on physical proximity.  It's the same control whether he's across the room, across the country, or half way across the globe.  We've had situations where his behavior was not acceptable and I've put him back where he needed to be even when we've been separated by distance.  That may very well be one of the better ways to define if you really do have power over someone or not. 

As for the rest, do us both a favor and leave the gender out of it.  Everybody is taught during their formative years that it's wrong to hurt other people.  (Self defense excluded.)  We females aren't given a free pass in that department and we have to go through the same unlearning what we've learned when we become open to the world of sadism and masochism.

If you happen to have yourself a submissive who is a masochist and you can not indulge in sadism at all or not to the level of which they crave, you could come out as looking weaker.  This isn't particularly anyone's fault.  It just means that you have an incompatibility in this area.  It really comes down to the same thing as you'll have some submissives who crave more control than others.  When it's lacking, they know it isn't there.  Protocol is another area where this can happen.  Some submissives absolutely thrive in high protocol dynamics and miss that structure if involved with a laid back type of Dominant.  Any of these can mean that you are not the right kind of Dominant for them.