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RE: What is up with supposedly submissive women mouthin... - 4/12/2010 11:43:33 AM   
pahunkboy


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ORIGINAL: Lockit

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

I have a HUGE dick......or I AM a huge dick.....anyway


Lock it sweet talked me, so I will stay.

She would make a great sub!




LOL... oh I love it when they fall for my game! If I could go there... I would be one of those perfectly mouthy lil wenches and I wouldn't give you a blow job just to prove a point! Notice I lined up the pussy's and wasn't offering mine? I am re-thinking that beer!



Jefff cant come to the phone now.  



He is getting a blow job in the back room.

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RE: What is up with supposedly submissive women mouthin... - 4/12/2010 11:43:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DebbieLou

What I am saying it that it's rather odd that individuals claiming to be submissive are at least significantly more bitchy and aggressive than the general population as a whole.



Alright so my question, at risk of being considered bitchy and agressive and wholly unsubmissive (is that a term?)..is how can you possibly say this?

What classifies as more bitchy and aggressive than the general population? Does the fact that I question your thoughts put me in that class?

What are you using as your basis for population bitchiness/aggressiveness?

How many posts by submissive women have you read in order to provide yourself with what you feel is a representative sample of the submissive women here? I'd imagine there are millions of posts here that include a wide range of bitchy, aggressive, polite, graceful, articulate tones..

It just seems strange to me that as someone who identifies themself as a new person to the area that you would be the expert on the subject

I'd argue there are strong personalities here but I would expect that of a BDSM based message board. I would also argue that Dominants and submissives alike can be aggressive here.

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RE: What is up with supposedly submissive women mouthin... - 4/12/2010 11:46:09 AM   
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you must be knew to this whole sub thing.....

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RE: What is up with supposedly submissive women mouthin... - 4/12/2010 11:46:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		I keep re-reading the OP, and I keep giggling.  Kudos.

This reads exactly like one of those letters old people write to newspapers in small towns.  Just replace "submissive" with "young people" and throw in a line about how they can't even keep their pants pulled up and you're golden.  Don't forget to add "PS I am not a crackpot."

Well done, Deb.  Now go out and enjoy the rest of your afternoon, shaking your fists at clouds and giving those uppity, cheeky squirrels a good glowering. 


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RE: What is up with supposedly submissive women mouthin... - 4/12/2010 11:48:24 AM   
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you must be knew to this whole sub thing.....

I shall mentor you!



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RE: What is up with supposedly submissive women mouthin... - 4/12/2010 11:49:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DebbieLou

What I am saying it that it's rather odd that individuals claiming to be submissive are at least significantly more bitchy and aggressive than the general population as a whole.



Is there a test for individuals claiming to be submissive so we know that they really ARE submissive and not just "self-proclaimed" submissives?  Is there a test for individuals claiming to be dominant so we know that they really ARE dominant and not just "self-proclaimed" dominants?

Is there a test to show that people know the difference between submissive and passive?  Between submissive and shy?  Between submissive and lobotomized?  Between a sexual orientation and a personality, even when the same word is used for both?

Is there a limit to the number of hypothetical questions I can put into one post?

Cali



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RE: What is up with supposedly submissive women mouthin... - 4/12/2010 11:49:19 AM   
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RE: What is up with supposedly submissive women mouthin... - 4/12/2010 11:49:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DebbieLou

I'm new here just curious, no offense to your message board.

Looking around at the posts I see tons of "submissives" with attitude coming out of their ears giving nasty, sassy answers to anyone and everyone.

Can someone explain this phenomenon to me? Don't their masters want them to be polite and graceful?

BTW props to male submissives, they do not seem to have this issue

You already explain yourself by putting submissives demonstrating this behaviour between brackets.

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RE: What is up with supposedly submissive women mouthin... - 4/12/2010 11:50:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DebbieLou

Can someone explain this phenomenon to me? Don't their masters want them to be polite and graceful? BTW props to male submissives, they do not seem to have this issue



Spend more time on "Ask a Mistress".  Seriously.

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RE: What is up with supposedly submissive women mouthin... - 4/12/2010 11:52:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DebbieLou

Alright my dears, let me clarify.

Am I saying that all self proclaimed submissives should be actively submitting to anyone and everyone? Of course not. I wasn't born yesterday kids.

What I am saying it that it's rather odd that individuals claiming to be submissive are at least significantly more bitchy and aggressive than the general population as a whole.

Of course we all know that when we get behind a computer screen and interact with strangers, politeness tends to vanish pretty quickly.



This "self proclaimed" submissive is as bitchy and aggressive as the post requires. Master approves of my attitude and his is the only opinion I care about.

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RE: What is up with supposedly submissive women mouthin... - 4/12/2010 11:53:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DebbieLou

Can someone explain this phenomenon to me? Don't their masters want them to be polite and graceful?


My owner wants me to polite, graceful, suffer no fools and call bullshit when I see it.

Like right now. The idea that all masters want their property to behave in one particular way is just bullshit. Whatever happened to variety is the spice of life?

quote:


What I am saying it that it's rather odd that individuals claiming to be submissive are at least significantly more bitchy and aggressive than the general population as a whole.

I've heard this over and over and over again since I joined the boards in '05 and I just haven't found it to be true. What I have found in the CM women, subs, switches and dominants, are caring, wonderful women who love life, cherish their loved ones and who one can lean on in a time of need - even we haven't met face to face.

Now, if we are going talk about aggression - who the hell says subs can't be aggressive? For sake of discussion, personal guard dogs are supposed to be aggressive and submissive to their owners. Why do you insist on painting an entire group of people with one brush and insult those who don't confirm to your narrow view by saying they "claim" to be submissive?

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RE: What is up with supposedly submissive women mouthin... - 4/12/2010 11:56:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

Lock it....sweetie pie?... you don't give... I TAKE!


you must be knew to this whole sub thing.....

I shall mentor you!


ROFLMAO! For obvious reasons and then some not so obvious! I might let you get away with some mentoring just so you could keep me in laughter!


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RE: What is up with supposedly submissive women mouthin... - 4/12/2010 11:59:06 AM   
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Someone just bit his dick.

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RE: What is up with supposedly submissive women mouthin... - 4/12/2010 11:59:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OrpheusAgonistes

I keep re-reading the OP, and I keep giggling.  Kudos.

This reads exactly like one of those letters old people write to newspapers in small towns.  Just replace "submissive" with "young people" and throw in a line about how they can't even keep their pants pulled up and you're golden.  Don't forget to add "PS I am not a crackpot."

Well done, Deb.  Now go out and enjoy the rest of your afternoon, shaking your fists at clouds and giving those uppity, cheeky squirrels a good glowering. 




You are soooooo bad!  I´m in fits of giggles and people are looking at me funny....


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RE: What is up with supposedly submissive women mouthin... - 4/12/2010 12:02:20 PM   
pahunkboy


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Status: offline 		Debbie, are you now- or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?

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RE: What is up with supposedly submissive women mouthin... - 4/12/2010 12:02:53 PM   
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OP:

I will give you that politeness and common courtesy can be a bit lacking around here (from both sides mind you).  I think there are some who really do just completely lose any sense of normal civility the moment they log on.  It is very easy to lose your manners and make a spectacle of yourself online.  My issue isn't so much with people not being polite (I really don't expect it all that much online).  It is with the idea that the online universe has any semblance to reality.  The fact of the matter is that the persona you see before you can have absolutely little to nothing to do with what the person is like in real life.

I am one that considers how I conduct myself as a reflection upon me as well as any partner I may have.  I am not perfect, but I try to keep some kind of decorum about myself.  For the most part, what you see is what you get with me.  With the exception of me not having much to say in most social environments and only having as many words as I offer strangers here for a small number of friends, I am pretty much what I am.  I am of strong positions and opinions.  I can be annoyed.  I can rarely, but occasionally, be provoked.

Most of my posts are from the kinder, gentler aspect of me.  A few, however, the nice girl deal wasn't going to cut it.  When I see a situation that warrants some tough love, stern standing of ground, and even some flat out callin em as I see em, I will do what I believe is needed.  When I am wearing the hat of message board poster, I am not necessarily speaking from my submissive skin.  It would be similar to how I would conduct myself with family, friends, or on the job.  I am going to respond according to the task at hand and in order to proffer the best possible result.  Sometimes that means I am going to coddle and other times it means I will club a poster over the head.  As long as it is effective and communicates the message I wanted, I could care less if other posters approve of how I chose to handle it.  If I am truly out of line, let a moderator step in and say so.

The point is, none of us are here to please you or any other poster.  We are not here to be any kind of ambassador of our partnerships.  We are not even here to be ourselves.  We are here to be who we choose to be and to respond in the way we determine we want to.  We are all just showing you and each other what we want to show.  It really is mostly smoke and mirrors.  Just never mistake this all for any kind of reality.

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RE: What is up with supposedly submissive women mouthin... - 4/12/2010 12:05:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan

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ORIGINAL: DebbieLou

BTW props to male submissives, they do not seem to have this issue



Oh honey, if you were any greener we'd have to water and prune you.  In fact, I'd say that load of manure you dropped would make excellent fertilizer.  Spread that shit around some more.

I guess she hasn't visited any of the political threads.

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RE: What is up with supposedly submissive women mouthin... - 4/12/2010 12:08:31 PM   
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RE: What is up with supposedly submissive women mouthin... - 4/12/2010 12:10:28 PM   
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RE: What is up with supposedly submissive women mouthin... - 4/12/2010 12:11:56 PM   
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I can't think of a single occasion on which a sub woman on these boards has been mean or nasty or rude to *me*-partly, at least, because I'm not mean or nasty or rude to *them*.

Say something daft and they will mock you-being submissive doesn't equate to tolerating stupidity.

Say something rude or agressive and they will dish it right back with added style and pizazz (well, some of them have pizazz...)-being submissive doesn't equate to taking unpleasant behaviour lying down.

I'm grossly simplifying and exaggerating and generalising here, but at its core being submissive is wanting another person to take a degree of control over your relationship with them. What on earth do you think that has to do with how a woman replies to randoms on a message board?



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