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RE: What was your political evolution? - 4/13/2010 10:12:54 AM

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My mother claimed we were Republicans, but she never voted. My Dad was a Vietnam vet with a nice, fat case of PTSD.

At 13, I questioned the existence of God and determined that there was no reason to live.

At 17, I became infatuated with a self-proclaimed teenage anarchist whose little brother lent me books by Camus and Sarte. I can't remember who gave me 'On the Road' and 'The Zen of Motorcycle Maintenance' but they set the stage for my college years.

At 21, I was attending the ultra-liberal Evergreen State College in Olympia, WA studying Global Economy and the evils of NAFTA for the Mexican people.

At 27, I finished nursing school and became an Army Nurse Corps Officer. I was 28 on 9/11, all gung-ho to protect the U.S.A. Then Bush Junior decided to invade Iraq and I became an angry, disillusioned and confused military Democrat...a rather rare breed.

Now, these years later, I don't know what the fuck I am. I lean toward the Green Party's defense of the environment, the Democrats' concern for the underprivileged, the Republican's stance on personal responsibility and the Libertarians' desire to protect our Constitutional rights. So I too, have no one to vote for any more.

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RE: What was your political evolution? - 4/13/2010 1:10:44 PM

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I grew up in Boston, Mass Irish Catholic Liberl Democrat Labor Union.
But, that was in the '60's and 70's when Democrats were for, "the workingman." Now it seems they're for the "not working man" and "the no speaka the english man."
I don't like the Dems or Repubs and don't vote for them anymore. I'm an Independant.

P.S. Takemeforyourown, that's funny, "The Democrats concern for the underpriviledged", Michelle Obama is in Haiti today not Cleveland, Baltimore, or Philidelphia.

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RE: What was your political evolution? - 4/13/2010 1:39:14 PM

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

I grew up in Boston, Mass Irish Catholic Liberl Democrat Labor Union.
But, that was in the '60's and 70's when Democrats were for, "the workingman." Now it seems they're for the "not working man" and "the no speaka the english man."
I don't like the Dems or Repubs and don't vote for them anymore. I'm an Independant.

P.S. Takemeforyourown, that's funny, "The Democrats concern for the underpriviledged", Michelle Obama is in Haiti today not Cleveland, Baltimore, or Philidelphia.

Are their no "underprivliged" in Haiti ? Not to mention that Michelle as beautiful and classy as she happens to be is the "Democratic Party"

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RE: What was your political evolution? - 4/13/2010 8:14:53 PM

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I was born and raised in the 11th Ward on Chicago's south side, which was Daley's ward. Just about everyone I knew worked for the city on some capacity, and everyone voted democrat.

I had my choice of jobs after H.S., Cop, Fireman, Streets & San, Water, Park District, all I had to do was ask.

It was common to see city employees installing fences on personal property, or sitting in the local bars during work hours, everyone knew, and nobody cared. I got to asking questions about all the crap I was seeing, only to have the ward boss's wife talk to my mother about my "attitude".

The realization of just how corrupt Democrats, especially ones from Chicago were is what shaped my conservative opinions.

What an idiot. You are now a republican because you lived in Chicago?

I have a feeling you were fired because your attitude really sucked...Just like out here. Why would your attitude suddenly alter so dramatically just because you were employed? You are miserable now, you were miserable then...You were fired, you blamed the democrats and then you became a republican....Too funny.

Just another piece of the puzzle.

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RE: What was your political evolution? - 4/13/2010 8:25:31 PM

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I'm an Independant.

This was supposed to be an honest account. you guys crack me up.

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RE: What was your political evolution? - 4/13/2010 8:27:24 PM

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Before you go cracking on the conservatives, DG, how about sharing a little here? C'mon, how sheltered and spoiled did you have to grow up to be carrying around the sort of liberal guilt you've got going for you?

Enquiring minds want to know!

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RE: What was your political evolution? - 4/13/2010 8:46:44 PM

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What do liberals have to feel guilty about ?....we're the ones trying to help

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RE: What was your political evolution? - 4/13/2010 8:52:05 PM

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What do liberals have to feel guilty about ?....we're the ones trying to help .

That's what the Quakers were trying to do when they invented solitary confinement prisons...

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RE: What was your political evolution? - 4/13/2010 8:59:14 PM

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Well if nothing else that probably helped with the whole "prison rape" problem

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RE: What was your political evolution? - 4/13/2010 9:02:01 PM

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Google video search 'Slavoj Zizek'.

You'll never go back. Never!

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RE: What was your political evolution? - 4/13/2010 9:49:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

I grew up in Boston, Mass Irish Catholic Liberl Democrat Labor Union.
But, that was in the '60's and 70's when Democrats were for, "the workingman." Now it seems they're for the "not working man" and "the no speaka the english man."
I don't like the Dems or Repubs and don't vote for them anymore. I'm an Independant.

P.S. Takemeforyourown, that's funny, "The Democrats concern for the underpriviledged", Michelle Obama is in Haiti today not Cleveland, Baltimore, or Philidelphia.

Are their no "underprivliged" in Haiti ? Not to mention that Michelle as beautiful and classy as she happens to be is the "Democratic Party"

Mike, her husband isn't president of Haiti.

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RE: What was your political evolution? - 4/13/2010 9:50:53 PM

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And that means what exactly pops....my neighbors house is on fire....shall I point out I don't sleep there?

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Forget Guns-----Ban the pools

Funny stuff....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNwFf991d-4

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RE: What was your political evolution? - 4/13/2010 10:00:29 PM

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And that means what exactly pops....my neighbors house is on fire....shall I point out I don't sleep there?

What does this have to do with your neighbor's house? Is that supposed to be some sort of analogy?
We are in a recession and people are suffering here and Michelle Obama's in foreign countries? Are they that out of touch with the country?

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RE: What was your political evolution? - 4/13/2010 10:09:15 PM

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

And that means what exactly pops....my neighbors house is on fire....shall I point out I don't sleep there?

What does this have to do with your neighbor's house? Is that supposed to be some sort of analogy?
We are in a recession and people are suffering here and Michelle Obama's in foreign countries? Are they that out of touch with the country?

Popeye if you have to ask....my explaining it to you is like "pearls before swine"
It just won't help for what ails you my friend....lol

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Forget Guns-----Ban the pools

Funny stuff....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNwFf991d-4

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RE: What was your political evolution? - 4/13/2010 10:29:28 PM

popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

And that means what exactly pops....my neighbors house is on fire....shall I point out I don't sleep there?

What does this have to do with your neighbor's house? Is that supposed to be some sort of analogy?
We are in a recession and people are suffering here and Michelle Obama's in foreign countries? Are they that out of touch with the country?

Popeye if you have to ask....my explaining it to you is like "pearls before swine"
It just won't help for what ails you my friend....lol

Mike, it's not what ails me it's what's ailing the White House.

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RE: What was your political evolution? - 4/13/2010 11:06:13 PM

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If that gets you thru the night my Irish friend.....

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Forget Guns-----Ban the pools

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RE: What was your political evolution? - 4/13/2010 11:13:01 PM

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I'll be one for the rest of my life
The young are so certain....but time and life has a way of wearing down certainties.

my political stance was arrived at in a manner unlike most other people. I'd be willing to bet a good bit of money on the static nature of my political beliefs.

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RE: What was your political evolution? - 4/13/2010 11:15:05 PM

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ORIGINAL: Silence8

Google video search 'Slavoj Zizek'.

You'll never go back. Never!

one of the more unimpressive people I've ever heard.

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RE: What was your political evolution? - 4/13/2010 11:20:19 PM

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ORIGINAL: variation30

quote:

ORIGINAL: Silence8

Google video search 'Slavoj Zizek'.

You'll never go back. Never!

one of the more unimpressive people I've ever heard.

Maybe that's because you're closed-minded and uncritical, completely the opposite of Zizek.

Scamper off and listen to William Buckley, or some other incoherent idiot.

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RE: What was your political evolution? - 4/13/2010 11:23:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: variation30

quote:

ORIGINAL: Arpig

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I'll be one for the rest of my life
The young are so certain....but time and life has a way of wearing down certainties.

my political stance was arrived at in a manner unlike most other people. I'd be willing to bet a good bit of money on the static nature of my political beliefs.

See on this I would agree...I would go even farther and hazard you do not have the ability to change and evolve.
Yep ....static, a real good word...much better than "mule-headed"(that's probably how one of those "unwashed masses" would descibe it )

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