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RE: A bow to iron-fisted tyrants - 4/13/2010 4:28:08 PM   
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See, this is how the worst of the talking heads perpetuate their popularity during the periods when the party they support is on the defensive.  Whipping their supporters into a fervor with vitriol is an all-too-familiar tactic, of course, but people underestimate the more subtle but arguably more crucial factor - they do everything in their power to create the illusion of mass popular support for their positions that simply does not exist and to convince their audience that they are just the tip of the iceberg of a vast ground-swell of rebellion that is about to erupt at any moment.  Once put into this mode as member of a defiant union of the disenfranchised they are pretty firmly inoculated from the idea that there is any benefit to compromise or need to accept any element of the policies of 'usurping' bastards in power,who just refuse to head the will of the American people.  It's really a little genius.  Assuming they don't believe their own hype.  When they do it's perhaps better classified as an idiot-savant-like, highly effective display of self-important grandstanding. 

I mean, come on man, give a little nod to reality here.  I'll admit there's a lot that is up in the air for the next round of congressional elections, but the smart money is on the democrats easily maintaining a slightly more slim majority at worst.  There's actually a very real possibility they will pick up more seats than they lose.  As for Obama failing to be re-elected...even from years away I feel pretty confident in saying that your hopes there are an utter pipe dream.  To say that he will lose by one of the largest margins in U.S. history suggests that you have a rather tenuous  grasp on the realities of the contemporary political landscape.  And unless you want stew in resentment, you'd be best off coming to terms with those realities, because in all-likelihood Obama is not just going to win that election, he's going to come out of it more popular than ever. 

Forgive the divergence into history, but what people seem to be forgetting, what any beginning student of U.S. history ought to recognize, is that this has all happened before, with arguably America's most successful politician, FDR.  Roosevelt also rode into power on populist momentum fueled by the generations worst economic meltdown and mass distaste for perceived ineffectiveness and corruption of the Republican party and he too faced a steep upward battle in his first term from a incised and rallying ultra-conservative core as he instituted broad policies to stimulate economic recovery and create a much broader system of social support for the needy.  It's important to note here that Roosevelt's policies were much more massive and notably more progressive for their time than Obama's and the Republican resistance (especially the influential and wealthy industrial elites) even more fervent than teabaggers. 

And what was the ultimate outcome?  Roosevelt's semi-restrained smirk staring up at you from the dime as if he just porked your mother and is avoiding eye contact with you only out a courteous decision not to rub it in.  Yes, the conservative core threw everything they had at him and indeed made some early gains, crippling many of his most progressive policies, sewing some of the greatest political discord in American history that didn't lead to outright war.  But as his economic policies (agreed by economic historians on both sides of the aisle to have been prudent if not outright brilliant) began to bear fruit and pull America from depression, it became apparent that the Republican assault had failed, and in many ways backfired, and that Roosevelt, already wildly popular for his social stances, would indeed win reelection (by a landslide) and be around for another term.   Only it wasn't just one more term.  He went on to win the presidency two more times, twice the number of any other president in American history.  And all of this despite his taking America out of its then-beloved isolationism and interning American citizens without legal cause on the basis of race. After he succumbed to complications from his paralytic polio, and the collective sphincter of the Republican body relaxed just a little, people decided there might be some good cause in limiting the number of terms a president could conserve, just in case someone came along who could make as many people's balls tingle as FDR, someone that wasn't also the best Daddy America had ever known. 

Point is this, chief, better get some antacids to help you swallow that bile, because there is every indication that Obama could end up being the most popular president of your lifetime.   You don't have to like the man or his policies, but don't bury your head in the sand about the basic power of the strategy and positions he's chosen have in American politics, you'll only end up more the bitter.




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More importantly why did you start the same thread as FatDomSaniddy did...Isn't that against tos?




Maybe beause all of the bitching you did to the mods got it moved before he could see it???

The fact is... you would have NEVER allowed Bush 43 get away with bowing to the Chi-Coms without roasting him live on the boards.

And look.... you will not have to worry about President Obama disappointing you for much longer, he will only be cowtowing to the next Republican Congress for two years before he gets defeated by one of the largest margins in US History... if he even runs again.


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RE: A bow to iron-fisted tyrants - 4/13/2010 4:33:27 PM   
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Google mercy killing.


That may take the edge of the dope.  


Why would I want to take the edge off?????

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RE: A bow to iron-fisted tyrants - 4/13/2010 4:36:38 PM   
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If only I could get past the fact that you are an insufferable ass!


An insufferable ass who has the nausiating habit of always being right.
Sometimes I think it is a curse...like being able to lick my eyebrows

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RE: A bow to iron-fisted tyrants - 4/13/2010 4:37:23 PM   
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What, he was poisoning kids as well as getting them pissed?


he who lives by the drugs- DIE by the drugs. we all know this.


Try telling that to a diabetic or an epileptic, mate.

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RE: A bow to iron-fisted tyrants - 4/13/2010 4:54:56 PM   
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If only I could get past the fact that you are an insufferable ass!


An insufferable ass who has the nausiating habit of always being right.
Sometimes I think it is a curse...like being able to lick my eyebrows

It is getting irritating having to point out to you that this here is simply your assesment of the scorecard....I by no means ascribe to this judgement !

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RE: A bow to iron-fisted tyrants - 4/13/2010 5:00:14 PM   
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It is getting irritating having to point out to you that this here is simply your assesment of the scorecard....I by no means ascribe to this judgement !


The simple way to solve that delima is to pull up the post where you show that one of my statements is wrong.
Until that happens my assessment is the correct one.

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RE: A bow to iron-fisted tyrants - 4/13/2010 5:05:47 PM   
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<snip>before he gets defeated by one of the largest margins in US History... if he even runs again.


by who...... caribou Barbie?


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RE: A bow to iron-fisted tyrants - 4/13/2010 5:06:31 PM   
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Good grief.  You two really should just go grab a chatroom and cyber this out of your system.  Come on, mike, he just told you he can lick his own eyebrows. He's trying to tell you that he's limber as a chameleon...take a hint.    

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RE: A bow to iron-fisted tyrants - 4/13/2010 5:06:45 PM   
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Does anyone in this site seriously believe that Obama will be elected to a second term?



I was stunned when W got re- elected.

Anything could happen Pops


Oh shit... thanks for taking me back to that goddam awful day. People that voted for Bush the second time especially: repent, it is not too late to admit to your sins. You motherfucking idiots.

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RE: A bow to iron-fisted tyrants - 4/13/2010 5:13:18 PM   
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Well, in my defense I hadn't yet discovered bdsm so I thought getting a blowjob from someone more than 10 yrs your junior was wrong.

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RE: A bow to iron-fisted tyrants - 4/13/2010 5:14:44 PM   
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Shit...you want tips ,you come to me...court ordered life time supply vicodin,and I don't pay dime one for them
Of course the fact that I hate them takes some of the fun out of it.


Shit and here I am having to beg my doc for painkillers. You know it's nice to share with friends Mike


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RE: A bow to iron-fisted tyrants - 4/13/2010 5:36:42 PM   
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Shit...you want tips ,you come to me...court ordered life time supply vicodin,and I don't pay dime one for them
Of course the fact that I hate them takes some of the fun out of it.


Shit and here I am having to beg my doc for painkillers. You know it's nice to share with friends Mike




Zeph, you can have the ones that I keep turning down.

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RE: A bow to iron-fisted tyrants - 4/13/2010 5:39:44 PM   
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Good grief.  You two really should just go grab a chatroom and cyber this out of your system.  Every group has such a pair,

Every group  also has a busy body who feels it is his job to poke his nose into other peoples business.


two people incessantly throwing empty-sounding insults at each-other in between trying to sneak sidelong glances of attraction.  Come on, mike, he just told you he can lick his own eyebrows. He's trying to tell you that he's limber as a chameleon...take a hint. 

mikey...I think you have an admirer...
He is young....
He is bossy....
He is available
and according to his profile
He is desperate.

caius...mikey is straight so your work is cut out for you.

  

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RE: A bow to iron-fisted tyrants - 4/13/2010 5:41:04 PM   
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Shit...you want tips ,you come to me...court ordered life time supply vicodin,and I don't pay dime one for them
Of course the fact that I hate them takes some of the fun out of it.


Shit and here I am having to beg my doc for painkillers. You know it's nice to share with friends Mike




Zeph, you can have the ones that I keep turning down.


Thanks, Jeff! We can have a good chat about your plan to get rid of global warming at the same time


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RE: A bow to iron-fisted tyrants - 4/13/2010 5:42:03 PM   
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Well, in my defense I hadn't yet discovered bdsm so I thought getting a blowjob from someone more than 10 yrs your junior was wrong.


What about giving a blow job to someone who is 40 years older

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RE: A bow to iron-fisted tyrants - 4/13/2010 5:47:45 PM   
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Well, in my defense I hadn't yet discovered bdsm so I thought getting a blowjob from someone more than 10 yrs your junior was wrong.


What about giving a blow job to someone who is 40 years older

Now that would be a stretch...bdsm or no, I couldn't vote for Obama twice if he had a 7 yr old blow him...sorry

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RE: A bow to iron-fisted tyrants - 4/13/2010 5:51:08 PM   
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That was not exactly the image I was trying for.

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RE: A bow to iron-fisted tyrants - 4/13/2010 6:23:54 PM   
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Clean up in isle 9

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RE: A bow to iron-fisted tyrants - 4/13/2010 6:28:45 PM   
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This thread is starting to bother me.


People.   Watch out.   Dont let this shit reach thru the wire to real life.


Some of you- on this thread- are not thinking clearly.  

Drugs KILL.  So knock it off.

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RE: A bow to iron-fisted tyrants - 4/13/2010 10:26:39 PM   
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Does anyone in this site seriously believe that Obama will be elected to a second term?
Yeah , I do...and some of the reasons have already been enumerated...but given your short attention span let me restate them(I will even number them for you...so as to make it easier for a gentleman of your advanced age,by the way given that fact...why do you care ,can more easily follow along)
1) The economy is bouncing back....slowly yes...but the trend is definitly in the right direction.
2) He will face no serious Democratic Primary challenge...allowing him to gear up solely for the general.An incumbant in such a position is truly a formidal opponent.
3) Lack of a credible challenger on the horizon from the Republican side....take a look at the likely "pretenders" to their nomination....pick whoever you like from that bunch,and than try....please try to make a credible case for that candidate tounseating an incumbant.
4) Health Care...whether you think it was the perfect legislation or not....he got it done...an historic step forward that the voters will not forget.



Mike, you're right on one point, the voters won't forget!
And I'm sure they thought Jimmy Carter was a "formidable opponent" too but at least he had some management experience unlike the Harvard Professor.
And I don't know about the economy, they're saying this will be a "jobless recovery" that there will be high unemployment "for years."
And some people on the Left are calling Obama a "corporitist." Gee, ya think?
High unemployment for extended periods of time will knock out any president from office!

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