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RE: Timothy McVeigh’s confession to be heard in MSNBC... - 4/15/2010 12:46:37 AM   
Rule


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McVeigh was executed by lethal injection, witnessed and attested to by a number of people.

Ah, now the cat is out of the bag. So there were no chunks of brains flying about nor a decapitated head rolling over the floor, was there? So you have no corpse and you cannot prove that the method of execution was indeed lethal.

It seems to me that you missed out on a couple of good movies. I recommend that you watch the pilot movie of the series Nikita, especially the early part; as well as the movie "My name is nobody", especially the last part. I expect that there are lots of other movies and episodes as well in which the death of a character was faked. If Hollywood can do it, then one might expect the boss of the convicted man to be able to manage it as well, not so?

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The problem with this is that no one can keep their mouth shut.

And you know this because you are omniscient? Tsk, tsk.

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Another hole in your theory is that the Timothy McVeigh case took place during the Clinton Administration, the same administration that was in power at the time of the Waco incident AND the Administration who prosecuted the individuals involved in the Ruby Ridge incident.

Ah! Thank you for that revelation. So it might be possible that Waco and Ruby Ridge were targeted in order to provide TMcV with an alleged motive? Frankly, I deem that hypothesis unlikely; I suspect that W and RR were targeted for other reasons, not as the premeditated excuse for TMcV. I suspect they were merely decided upon as the required flimsy excuse when it was decided to demolish the building.

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Your theory would involve members of the Government up to and including the President, which makes no sense since it was Bush who was, according to the conspiracy theories, responsible for 9/11.

I have no idea why you suddenly are blabbing about 9/11? You appear to be confused: 9/11 happened long after TMcV, for your information.

So members of the Government up to and including the President are above supicion, are they? Apparently you have missed another good movie: "Absolute power" (1997) with Clint Eastwood.

Neither do I know why you are blabbing about Waco and Ruby Ridge in connection with TMcV: they are not relevant to the case.

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RE: Timothy McVeigh’s confession to be heard in MSNBC... - 4/15/2010 3:33:22 AM   
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RE: Timothy McVeigh’s confession to be heard in MSNBC... - 4/15/2010 4:17:13 AM   
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RE: Timothy McVeigh’s confession to be heard in MSNBC... - 4/15/2010 8:23:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		"Neither do I know why you are blabbing about Waco and Ruby Ridge in connection with TMcV"

Didn't Fox news mention that ? They were very tightly connected. The date was chosen as well as the target. The agents who screwed up at Ruby Ridge and Waco were supposed to be there. That's why it was daytime. That's why it was that particular federal building.

T

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RE: Timothy McVeigh’s confession to be heard in MSNBC... - 4/15/2010 8:28:10 AM   
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RE: Timothy McVeigh’s confession to be heard in MSNBC... - 4/15/2010 8:46:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
"Neither do I know why you are blabbing about Waco and Ruby Ridge in connection with TMcV"

Didn't Fox news mention that ? They were very tightly connected. The date was chosen as well as the target. The agents who screwed up at Ruby Ridge and Waco were supposed to be there. That's why it was daytime. That's why it was that particular federal building.

T

You too?

Why is it that so many people suffer from a lack of paranoia?

I know one person who does not know the difference between truth and lie - consequently nothing he says may be assumed to be the truth. Now I do suppose that most of you can distinguish between a truth and a lie. Why cannot the lot of you in this case?

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RE: Timothy McVeigh’s confession to be heard in MSNBC... - 4/15/2010 8:49:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		There IS alot of mystery to the Marrah bombing.  But frankly I view this - - well - as not a public service.

Building 7 is the issue.

9-11.  Forget about OKC.   It hardly matters (for now)

False flags are a fact of empires- as to the details- well would empire LIE?

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RE: Timothy McVeigh’s confession to be heard in MSNBC... - 4/15/2010 8:55:30 AM   
Termyn8or


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Status: offline 		Why do some think they can tell the truth from a lie ? Got some kind of crystal ball or something ?

Assuming there is no crystal ball involved, oh oracle please tell us idiots exactly how to tell the truth from the lies. There is no tone of voice or facial expression in the printed word, so what is it ? What is the dead giveaway ?

T

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RE: Timothy McVeigh’s confession to be heard in MSNBC... - 4/15/2010 8:56:54 AM   
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I think not.

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RE: Timothy McVeigh’s confession to be heard in MSNBC... - 4/15/2010 9:40:05 AM   
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so what is it ? What is the dead giveaway ?

There are lots of giveaways, but apparently you neglected to read my earlier posts in this thread: There is no corpse! Nor can jlf1961 prove that TMcV was executed. The only argument that he has is that a number of people saw him being injected with something. Well duh! Lots of people - hundreds of millions - get injected with something every day and do not die from it. jlf1961 knew very well that he had no case for he had to be prodded to fess up that he had no corpse to show and that TMcV was not decapitated or shot through the head or otherwise unequivocally executed, and that all he had to show as evidence for an execution was some kind of vaccination. (Of course I already knew the answers to my questions before I posed them to him. I investigated this mystery one or two or three years ago to my satisfaction.)

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RE: Timothy McVeigh’s confession to be heard in MSNBC... - 4/15/2010 9:47:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Even if he was decapitated- with good make up they could send in a double.

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RE: Timothy McVeigh’s confession to be heard in MSNBC... - 4/15/2010 9:57:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, if he was injected with H1N1 vaccine, we have it on no less than hunkies authority that he is one of the millions, that; if not dead as we speak, soon will be. So that's gonna work out pretty good in the end.

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RE: Timothy McVeigh’s confession to be heard in MSNBC... - 4/15/2010 10:12:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hello Rule; what about Ken Lay; remember him, the head of Enron Scandal, dies just before going on trial....buried, no hoopla, no trial, no Ken Lay, no casket pics, nothing....trail set, dies, buried, that's that...Enron scandal, nothing more.

Dead mean tell no tales......especially in these times.

Okat, this has nothing to do with the topic at hand...just another illustration.

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RE: Timothy McVeigh’s confession to be heard in MSNBC... - 4/15/2010 10:20:31 AM   
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RE: Timothy McVeigh’s confession to be heard in MSNBC... - 4/15/2010 10:20:57 AM   
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Well, if he was injected with H1N1 vaccine, we have it on no less than hunkies authority that he is one of the millions, that; if not dead as we speak, soon will be. So that's gonna work out pretty good in the end.

Selah.

Ron 


Oddly that is the grids plan for South Africa.    Not h1n1- but vaxs.    For our security- of course.

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RE: Timothy McVeigh’s confession to be heard in MSNBC... - 4/15/2010 10:25:34 AM   
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RE: Timothy McVeigh’s confession to be heard in MSNBC... - 4/15/2010 10:36:49 AM   
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Hello Rule; what about Ken Lay; remember him

No. I have not investigated Enron.

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RE: Timothy McVeigh’s confession to be heard in MSNBC... - 4/15/2010 10:39:17 AM   
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RE: Timothy McVeigh’s confession to be heard in MSNBC... - 4/15/2010 10:39:22 AM   
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Hello Rule; what about Ken Lay; remember him

No. I have not investigated Enron.



Enron records were "destroyed" in building 7.

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RE: Timothy McVeigh’s confession to be heard in MSNBC... - 4/15/2010 1:04:36 PM   
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