THE PROFOUND PLAN TO SAVE THE CONSTITUTION!!

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Real0ne -> THE PROFOUND PLAN TO SAVE THE CONSTITUTION!! (4/14/2010 6:06:41 PM)
http://www.articlesoffreedom.us/ nice huh? now is your chance people! peaceful return to the "rule of law" and great wealth we once had.

thornhappy -> RE: THE PROFOUND PLAN TO SAVE THE CONSTITUTION!! (4/14/2010 6:23:09 PM)
That is such a profound crock of shit. Want no one to take this seriously? Just leave in the parts about fiat currency, the "natural born citizen", North American Union, and the lack of well-regulated state militias (do you really think you could herd a bunch of cats into a well-regulated militia?) This whole action may make your socks go up and down, but will have about as much effect as a fart in a windstorm, mostly because it's such an assortment of bizarrity.

flcouple2009 -> RE: THE PROFOUND PLAN TO SAVE THE CONSTITUTION!! (4/14/2010 6:31:26 PM)
Thanks, I needed a good laugh.

DomKen -> RE: THE PROFOUND PLAN TO SAVE THE CONSTITUTION!! (4/14/2010 6:51:06 PM)
Disgusting. Tax evaders pretending to be patriots. And note the date of their big rally. April 19th. What's so special about that date? Ask someone from Oklahoma City.

jlf1961 -> RE: THE PROFOUND PLAN TO SAVE THE CONSTITUTION!! (4/14/2010 6:59:47 PM)
Realone insists that the bombing of the Federal Building in Oklahoma city was a government operation, regardless of the fact that McVeigh confessed to doing it, and there is no proof or photographic proof of the "Two Explosions" that Realone insists happened. The sad fact that two men were responsible for the blast that killed 168 and Realone completely denies the facts, and people like him who could care less about the confession and facts of the case, treats their deaths more like a joke than a fact to be angry about.

InvisibleBlack -> RE: THE PROFOUND PLAN TO SAVE THE CONSTITUTION!! (4/14/2010 9:15:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne now is your chance people! peaceful return to the "rule of law" and great wealth we once had. Okay. I'll play... Article 5 of the Constitution says that "the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments". Unless 33 State Legislatures called for a Convention and I missed it ... these guys have just produced a useless hoax. What's to excited about?

Brain -> RE: THE PROFOUND PLAN TO SAVE THE CONSTITUTION!! (4/14/2010 9:31:24 PM)
Ditto for me to all the replies thus far, well said.

Termyn8or -> RE: THE PROFOUND PLAN TO SAVE THE CONSTITUTION!! (4/14/2010 9:41:56 PM)
OK, FR I don't watch TV, gimme a transcript if you want specifics but here is how it is. Powers not enumerated in the Constitution to the federal government are reserved for the states or the people. However people get their dick in an uproar with this shit and forget that there are powers whaich ARE enumerated by the Constitution as a legitimate process and purpose of the federal government. The Constitution has been usurped of course and things need to change, but without enough popular support for a real revolution it must be done within the framework of the law, which is of course embodied in the Constitution. Here's where people get lost. Now the way I read it, theoretically if the People got together and supported and proved it, by ballot, 535 members of both houses, technically we could throw the bums out. This is as about as technical as something a good gumba told me when we bought this house with a sufferance tenant. Now I know why the word sufferance is used. It was found that while I could not just take a few goons in there and move her out, there was nothing she could do to stop me from moving in. Understand I do not have the right to remove her, but I have every right to be there because we have absolutely no contract. I really hoped she would stick around long enough for me to test that theory. So in essence, new duly elected representatives, using the correct lawful vehicle we should be able to simply displace the thugs who exist there now. However this is all legal theory at best and surely isn't going to happen. Whatevr that website has to say about it, we are not the ones who interpret the Constitution. It is nice to have the hopes and dreams of a child, but sometimes the child's dreams are akin to the chicken who crossed the road. Some of them get run over by a bus. Get it through your head, they have more guns. Yes that is an occupational government, and I do not argue that point in any way. But there are only two ways to fix this mess, the ballot box or the cartridge box. Neither option is very attractive right now. T

Real0ne -> RE: THE PROFOUND PLAN TO SAVE THE CONSTITUTION!! (4/15/2010 12:27:16 AM)
Term; Dood I offered to send you the briefs our groups have thrown together but you never gave me your email addy. To bad for you since we have the "stuff" man. We got the "goods" and it works. These bullshit courts dont even have the authority to try one of the dumb ass aforenoticed citizens much less someone who bailed like me. Truly is your loss, its nearly 1/2 inch thick printed. We are way beyond the patriot pipe smokin days.

Real0ne -> RE: THE PROFOUND PLAN TO SAVE THE CONSTITUTION!! (4/15/2010 12:31:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: InvisibleBlack quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne now is your chance people! peaceful return to the "rule of law" and great wealth we once had. Okay. I'll play... Article 5 of the Constitution says that "the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments". Unless 33 State Legislatures called for a Convention and I missed it ... these guys have just produced a useless hoax. What's to excited about? Ok here. This will blow you away. In fact you wont believe it. Nonetheless its true. If they want to........they can pass an amendment and no one as in no state would need to ratify it for it to become law under the present form of "so called" government. Do you have any idea how this could take place? (and I do mean legally)

pahunkboy -> RE: THE PROFOUND PLAN TO SAVE THE CONSTITUTION!! (4/15/2010 3:13:05 AM)
RealOne, We must pray for our secular brothers and sisters. It IS all in gods hands, and we will be just fine. [We will be fine]

Real0ne -> RE: THE PROFOUND PLAN TO SAVE THE CONSTITUTION!! (4/15/2010 10:51:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: InvisibleBlack quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne now is your chance people! peaceful return to the "rule of law" and great wealth we once had. Okay. I'll play... Article 5 of the Constitution says that "the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments". Unless 33 State Legislatures called for a Convention and I missed it ... these guys have just produced a useless hoax. What's to excited about? Ok here. This will blow you away. In fact you wont believe it. Nonetheless its true. If they want to........they can pass an amendment and no one as in no state would need to ratify it for it to become law under the present form of "so called" government. Do you have any idea how this could take place? (and I do mean legally) Ok here is a reality check. Name the last constitutional amendment has a verifiable voice of the people by referendum and voting records, forwarded to their representatives, conveyed to washington for ratification thereof? I heard the thumps of everyones jaw hitting the floor with the shocking realization of the reality what I just said.

tazzygirl -> RE: THE PROFOUND PLAN TO SAVE THE CONSTITUTION!! (4/15/2010 10:59:10 AM)
quote: Name the last constitutional amendment has a verifiable voice of the people by referendum and voting records, forwarded to their representatives, conveyed to washington for ratification thereof? What you said makes no damn sense.

pahunkboy -> RE: THE PROFOUND PLAN TO SAVE THE CONSTITUTION!! (4/15/2010 11:14:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: Name the last constitutional amendment has a verifiable voice of the people by referendum and voting records, forwarded to their representatives, conveyed to washington for ratification thereof? What you said makes no damn sense. Is that good?

DomKen -> RE: THE PROFOUND PLAN TO SAVE THE CONSTITUTION!! (4/15/2010 11:17:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne Ok here is a reality check. Name the last constitutional amendment has a verifiable voice of the people by referendum and voting records, forwarded to their representatives, conveyed to washington for ratification thereof? I heard the thumps of everyones jaw hitting the floor with the shocking realization of the reality what I just said. Here's a reality check, that's not how amendments are ratified! As a matter of fact the Supreme Court has specifically ruled that a referendum is no substitute for the Constitutionally approved methods.

pahunkboy -> RE: THE PROFOUND PLAN TO SAVE THE CONSTITUTION!! (4/15/2010 11:18:52 AM)
yeah- but beyond the bill of rights-- we dont need the rest.

Real0ne -> RE: THE PROFOUND PLAN TO SAVE THE CONSTITUTION!! (4/15/2010 11:20:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne Ok here is a reality check. Name the last constitutional amendment has a verifiable voice of the people by referendum and voting records, forwarded to their representatives, conveyed to washington for ratification thereof? I heard the thumps of everyones jaw hitting the floor with the shocking realization of the reality what I just said. Here's a reality check, that's not how amendments are ratified! As a matter of fact the Supreme Court has specifically ruled that a referendum is no substitute for the Constitutionally approved methods. So you admit it does not include the voice of the people.

Real0ne -> RE: THE PROFOUND PLAN TO SAVE THE CONSTITUTION!! (4/15/2010 11:21:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy yeah- but beyond the bill of rights-- we dont need the rest. nah he said now he has to explain it or once again go down in flames. LOL

xbrand -> RE: THE PROFOUND PLAN TO SAVE THE CONSTITUTION!! (4/15/2010 11:31:45 AM)
Just vote for 'Failin' Palin. In God we trust...all others pay cash.

pahunkboy -> RE: THE PROFOUND PLAN TO SAVE THE CONSTITUTION!! (4/15/2010 11:40:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: xbrand Just vote for 'Failin' Palin. In God we trust...all others pay cash. will she end the fed? will she end the war? is so-- I will comply.

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