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pahunkboy -> RE: German court fines British bishop for Holocaust denial (4/17/2010 2:07:47 PM)

No wonder why my ancestors fled Germany/Poland.

The silly ideas never end there.




LadyEllen -> RE: German court fines British bishop for Holocaust denial (4/17/2010 2:26:21 PM)

You mean those signs, pictures of which you posted here some time ago, one of which said that so many suffered and the other of which said so many died? A distinction which you either failed to draw or which you chose to overlook or confuse for your ends?

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Termyn8or -> RE: German court fines British bishop for Holocaust denial (4/17/2010 2:31:54 PM)

"I guess my post was too bright for you to follow Termy"

Really. Bring it on.

I got two words, I want your expert definition on each one of them and details on how they apply here.

1. Free
2. Speech

You got some balls to question my intelligence when you yourself don't understand the meaning of two monosyllabic words no greater than six letters in length.

Try again.

T




pahunkboy -> RE: German court fines British bishop for Holocaust denial (4/17/2010 2:34:31 PM)

Term cant come to the phone right now.




He is bowing before the QUEEN and her "court"               ;-0




Termyn8or -> RE: German court fines British bishop for Holocaust denial (4/17/2010 2:38:04 PM)

"I have been to and shall continue to go to Germany, where I shall respect their laws"

Nothing wrong with that and I would do the same. That flagrant abuse of human rights is no more my problem than the terrible treatment of Women in Arab countries.

However, did the good (bad) Bishop make those assertions while in Germany ?

Ernst Zundel certainly didn't, but he had not given up his German citizenship. Did the Bishop ever have German citizenship or was he in Germany ? Funny how that has not been mentioned.

In that context, if pot is illegal and I go to Amsterdam and smoke some, am I subject to arrest when I get home ?

T




LadyEllen -> RE: German court fines British bishop for Holocaust denial (4/17/2010 2:43:49 PM)

According to what I understand T, the idiot gave an interview to the Swedish TV channel in Regensburg, Germany. It was then broadcast in Sweden but the nature of the comments attracted attention to him. The court had jurisdiction as it would appear, because he said what he said in Germany.

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Termyn8or -> RE: German court fines British bishop for Holocaust denial (4/17/2010 3:05:36 PM)

OK then, I don't expect them to have free speech there.

Nonetheless, their adamance in persuing this issue smells like a rat. It's as if they know they can't hold their own on a level playing field. Why ?

See what they have done in their ignorance and hubris ? None of this would be an issue now if they weren't so uptight about what people say about them.

T




LadyEllen -> RE: German court fines British bishop for Holocaust denial (4/17/2010 3:20:43 PM)

The German law is clear T - that the truth of the occurence of genocide, popularly known as the holocaust, perpetrated by the nazis is not a matter of opinion but of fact. To deny this truth is therefore to be either an idiot or to act deliberately or recklessly to the commission of an offence under the law.

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Termyn8or -> RE: German court fines British bishop for Holocaust denial (4/17/2010 3:27:17 PM)

So lying is illegal and "they" determine what is a lie.

Try that shit here, the supreme court here actually ruled about thirty years ago that is was not illegal for the media to lie. (that also extends to tort law of course)

God Bless,,,,,,,,,,

Nevermind, fukum.

T




pahunkboy -> RE: German court fines British bishop for Holocaust denial (4/17/2010 3:29:22 PM)

LOL.

lies are not illegal.  They are sports.




LadyEllen -> RE: German court fines British bishop for Holocaust denial (4/17/2010 3:30:39 PM)

Well, depending what and where the lie is T, to whom and why and the consequences of the lie, yes lying is a crime and also actionable in civil law.

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pahunkboy -> RE: German court fines British bishop for Holocaust denial (4/17/2010 3:33:09 PM)

Am I wrong?

I thought the Monarch had German blood in them.




LadyEllen -> RE: German court fines British bishop for Holocaust denial (4/17/2010 3:38:24 PM)

Are you wrong about what?

Yes, our Queen (I assume you mean her when you say "the Monarch" - there are many in case you didnt know), is descended from a German line - her real name is Saxe-Coburg-Gotha not Windsor. They dropped the German surname on account of anti-German feeling arising from WWI. But what that has to do with the price of tomatoes I'm not sure.

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pahunkboy -> RE: German court fines British bishop for Holocaust denial (4/17/2010 3:40:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Are you wrong about what?

Yes, our Queen (I assume you mean her when you say "the Monarch" - there are many in case you didnt know), is descended from a German line - her real name is Saxe-Coburg-Gotha not Windsor. They dropped the German surname on account of anti-German feeling arising from WWI. But what that has to do with the price of tomatoes I'm not sure.

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it means the holocaust continues-- now being the Arabs turn.




LadyEllen -> RE: German court fines British bishop for Holocaust denial (4/17/2010 3:46:23 PM)

There is an organised genocide being perpetrated against Arabs PA?

Pray tell, by whom and where?

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pahunkboy -> RE: German court fines British bishop for Holocaust denial (4/17/2010 3:50:08 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

There is an organised genocide being perpetrated against Arabs PA?

Pray tell, by whom and where?

E


Yes.  In Iraq.   Over 1.3 mil killed.   By coalition of the "willing"  - who got the orders from the Federal Reserve., of which the Crown is part owner.




Termyn8or -> RE: German court fines British bishop for Holocaust denial (4/17/2010 3:51:03 PM)

The Gaza strip for one, and all occupied territoies in Israel. I thought you all had some real news there.

Like I said, I am not pusstfooting around the subject anyomre. The fact is they learned the genocide trade quite well. Want details ?

T




pahunkboy -> RE: German court fines British bishop for Holocaust denial (4/17/2010 3:56:36 PM)

Hell yeah.

Why whine over the Jews.  We kill people 24-7, BROWN people.   We love it.  


But- we dare not talk about it.  For that will risk 'Empire"




LadyEllen -> RE: German court fines British bishop for Holocaust denial (4/17/2010 4:11:13 PM)

The unlawful conduct of the Israeli state in regard to Arabs can hardly be called genocide. Ethnic cleansing perhaps, but there is no effort at deliberately killing large numbers of Arabs that should be required for it to warrant the description genocide. What the Israeli state has done and continues to do is reprehensible and I do not shirk from calling it what it is, a series of grave violations of international law which to date has gone unanswered.

The deaths of Iraqis that have occurred as a result of the unlawful attack on that country by the US and UK and later civil disturbance is also not genocide. It is the natural consequence of war as it affects a population and the natural consequence of the type of civil disturbance that followed. As such it ought to give pause to those who call for military action without, apparently, any understanding of such consequences, and demand an adequate answer from those who prompted it on very shaky premises, if any there be, in this instance.

However the gist of the argument seems to be that both instances are the actions of, or are otherwise unremedied according to the influence of, powerful Jewish lobbies in the US and worldwide. If such a premise can be proven then this should be done without delay. As such however, even if proven, it does not in any way establish that the nazi genocide did not happen or may be minimised or excused or justified, just as the above allegations should not be minimised, excused or justified on account of the nazi genocide.

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pahunkboy -> RE: German court fines British bishop for Holocaust denial (4/17/2010 4:14:56 PM)

1.3 mil Iraqis is not a genocide?


What is it?




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