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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Well RO - you do seem to be the expert of experts on this arcane subject

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so lets start here.

If these people are not taking their oath of office and THEY ARE not that is ok with you then right?

You know a shit load of congressmen just funneled a shit load of money offshore into private accounts un down law hush eh?

Thats where its at.

So you think that is all okee dokee right? The news media will tell you all about it right? The other guy will fix it right?

So that is all fine and dandy with you? All we have so far is the word of guns. Remains to be seen who is who. They got what week and a 1/2.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


so lets start here.

If these people are not taking their oath of office and THEY ARE NOT that is ok with you then right?

You know a shit load of congressmen just funneled a shit load of money offshore into private accounts on down low hush eh?

Thats where its at. 

So you think that is all okee dokee right?   The news media will tell you all about it right?  The other guy will fix it right?

So that is all fine and dandy with you?  All we have so far is the word of guns.  Remains to be seen who is who.  They got what week and a 1/2.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Come on hunky you can get well. all you have to do is question this one claim. Where is the legal base for claiming that using all caps is somehow important when typing or printing a name?

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Well RO - you do seem to be the expert of experts on this arcane subject

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hardly but I did have some damn good tutors

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

OK then - "Admiralty Maritime Jurisdiction" apparently replaced any other form of jurisdiction in the US.

When?
Who authorised or enacted this change?
What are the effects of this change - a) in criminal law and b) in civil law and c) in procedural law?

Since we seem to have the expertise present here to explain this readily and clearly, I'm hopeful of acquiring some important information here, even more so if any response is directed to the answering of these three key questions rather than deflecting, rambling or generating some throw away remark to those ends.

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still no answers on these rather straightforward questions I note

oh well, I'm sure its just the experts are too busy right now to respond to them, rather than that they dare not; perhaps when I wake tomorrow I shall find a full account of this mysterious subject.

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Come on hunky you can get well. all you have to do is question this one claim. Where is the legal base for claiming that using all caps is somehow important when typing or printing a name?

It is different.   It is a different legal entity.   I did not invent the system.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Come on hunky you can get well. all you have to do is question this one claim. Where is the legal base for claiming that using all caps is somehow important when typing or printing a name?

It is different.   It is a different legal entity.   I did not invent the system.

Then you should have no trouble finding that documented in a statute somewhere. Or at least in a law textbook or in some training aide provided to legals secretaries.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
1) They have already taken an oath of office, per the laws of the state and the United States, no amount of "sovereign citizen' bullshit is going to change that.

Really????????????????????

fuckin aye sahgent cottar!

You mean we went through all this fucking work for nothing?????????????/

Hot damn I will have to tell everyone to stop harrassing these nice officials because YOU SAID SO!

Now how much you wanna wager on that my friend?

2) In your imagination congressmen have moved funds offshore, considering there is laws and regulations requiring the members of congress to report all income, moneys and savings in order to make it harder for bribes to be hidden, you are once again spouting bullshit.

Sorry to pop your bubble, if you apparently have the memory of a mouse.  I told you geithner was my fiduciary, not that you have a fucking clu why I would do that.

And finally, IF you and your sovereign citizens decide to take up arms against the United States, either in open defiance against the government or the assassination of elected officials, it will be interesting to see it in the news and how many of you and your buddies either end up with a needle in your arm OR killed by federalized troops that you and your bunch of lunatics caused to be called up.

You dont get any of it do you?  First the use of the term "sovereign and citizen as dual noun is as brite as saying blinding darkness.  You are in like way over your head here and last time I checked the provost marshal has that authority.  Try keeping the facts straight and you will at least make sense.

Either way, the sovereign citizens will lose.

Funny thing, is most of you people are good at token gestures like writing letters, but when it comes to putting your blood on the line you dont have the fucking guts to die for a cause.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Come on hunky you can get well. all you have to do is question this one claim. Where is the legal base for claiming that using all caps is somehow important when typing or printing a name?

It is different.   It is a different legal entity.   I did not invent the system.

Then you should have no trouble finding that documented in a statute somewhere. Or at least in a law textbook or in some training aide provided to legals secretaries.

Dude- this is pretty basic.   Look around and learn.

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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so lets start here.

If these people are not taking their oath of office and THEY ARE not that is ok with you then right?

You know a shit load of congressmen just funneled a shit load of money offshore into private accounts un down law hush eh?

Thats where its at.

So you think that is all okee dokee right? The news media will tell you all about it right? The other guy will fix it right?

So that is all fine and dandy with you? All we have so far is the word of guns. Remains to be seen who is who. They got what week and a 1/2.

Not one bit of that makes any sense...it is 100% incomprehensible claptrap....as usual

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
dude that is my point. It's the base of your beliefs and you cannot provide even one fact in support of it. This should be a slam dunk. I'll even sweeten the pot. Present a valid US law that makes the distinction you claim and I'll never respond to your claims again.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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dude that is my point. It's the base of your beliefs and you cannot provide even one fact in support of it. This should be a slam dunk. I'll even sweeten the pot. Present a valid US law that makes the distinction you claim and I'll never respond to your claims again.

there is no statute, its one of those way kool for the foos kind of implied law sort of thing.   Can I prove it? sure got a day to read about 1" thick worth of documents?

Coming out here and blowing smoke up everyones ass and you dont even know what the fuck a nom guerre,ens legis is, is well frankly fucking beyond hilarious but I will be kind this time and not call you a tard, "leagoo beagoo".

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Yup.  Your birth certificate is your bill of laden for YOU- as you are a pirate as well as chattel on the high seas- and under Maritime law.  The civil war gave us birth certificates.   You are nothing more the movable dirt.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
a nom guerre,ens legis 

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
a nom guerre,ens legis 

the only references I can find to this term, or anything like it, is on conspiracy sites or dodgy looking "get out of your debts" sites. Every online legal dictionary I found came up with "no results".

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