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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

there is no such distinction in the us, in the way you are making it out to be.  you have no caselaw whatsoever to back that up. 

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

are you saying that a party to a contract may not assign the account receivable arising under it to a third party, nor form a contract for services with and instruct a third party to obtain collection thereof on its behalf?

or are you conflating this with the notion of third party rights in contract law?

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


I can get you into a contract you dont even know exists take you to court and sue the fuck out you over and you will never see it.

this is a remarkable assertion (though not the error I indicated in Ron's post).

please enlighten us as to how one might become party to a contract which, being ignorant as to its existence,

- one is unaware of the identity of the other party, and hence cannot have intended to create legal relations nor agreed any matter with that other party
- one is unaware of what consideration one must provide and what consideration one might receive and is thereby unable to provide or seek performance

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ORIGINAL: SaintIntensity
did someone say "delusional"
no but we all all ears whatcha got?
you are spouting more crap with each passing day
well aint seen you step up to the plate with anything, typical.
you've never sued anyone successfully
only an idiot would puke all over like that one.
you don't work
wow your really on a roll now gomer
you are on here 24/7 to all intents
hardly
show a case - ONE - that supports ANY of your BS - and a REAL case, not some net hearsay BS
HAHA read my lips -- fuck you LMAO
Hope that hleps.  hint (there is your proof)
maybe one where the court has been proven to be "Admiralty"
maybe one where a case has been thrown out based on your net-spread BS and lies
ouee ouee oh that hurts so bad tickle me more baby!  Hey you gotta take lessons from kitten I mean I jerk to that shit.
now you can create contracts they do not even know about and sue them successfully based on that?
another drowning illiterate.
laughable - and pure RealOne no-life-no-friend lies (as ever)
Great investigation gomer pyle
next you will be able to create a life and career for yourself

sad

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

third party rights then? the capacity of a third party deriving benefits under a contract to sue the parties to that contract?

not generally allowed under English law, except for the Contracts (Rights Of Third Parties) Act or in certain other situations where "reliance" can be established.

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

good - so then you appear to be arguing that the parties to a contract may sue a third party deriving benefits under that contract? even where, and specifically as indicated, the third party has no knowledge of either the contract, the parties or the benefit purportedly arising to him?

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

So, we're back to the capitalisation of names in legal documents and court proceedings

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

My dear, if I had any belief that I knew what you were on about, I should consult my GP without delay.

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Personally, I wouldnt sign for anything like that either if I were an attorney - it would immediately rouse my suspicion that something was up. If someone wants to deliver documents to me then I should expect ordinary post, and if the documents are legal documents then I should expect them served in the normal way.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

good - so then you appear to be arguing that the parties to a contract may sue a third party deriving benefits under that contract? even where, and specifically as indicated, the third party has no knowledge of either the contract, the parties or the benefit purportedly arising to him?

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you cant sue the beneficiary under the contract, when I was thinking 3rd party interloper was in my mind.  cha ching!

yes they can but only by construing the nom de geurre as the trustee and improperly attaching personal title as the surety.  courts here made and continue to make most of their money that way.