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RE: The State Senate in Arizona passes new immigration law - 4/23/2010 10:31:34 AM   
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RE: The State Senate in Arizona passes new immigration law - 4/23/2010 10:32:18 AM   
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Really straight forward shit.

Too bad so many of you struggle with such easy concepts. Like who will win presidential elections or why Goldman will not be touched.

Merc, to what charity did you send the $100.00 bucks?

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Can't wait to see the new campaign ads for Senator Clinton and Senator Obama now that the negative campaigning worked in OH and TX.
Result: Another 4 years of a Republican White House.

Remember - you heard it here first!

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RE: The State Senate in Arizona passes new immigration law - 4/23/2010 10:39:54 AM   
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The profiling Merc is in the implementation of this law....in order for it to be effective it has to be applied in an effective manner...and intelligent people know how that is done.....by profiling.
As they say in the courts - you assume facts not in evidence. All of us are speculating on how, when, where this Law will be applied. I think you already stipulated that road checkpoints would be okay if every random number car was asked for documentation.

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Tell you ,I will bet you a week at your place in Italy this law either never goes into effect or if it by chance actually does leads to immediate lawsuits....huge damage payouts and a quick repeal.
You're welcome to visit anytime regardless of the outcome, to LA or Italy, you buy the first drink as we chat - how about that?

However litigation does not represent the "Constitutionality" of this law.

Enforcing all the laws currently on the books effectively now generates lawsuits legitimate and specious; producing 'victories' and pragmatic 'settlements'. Should the enforcement of DWI's be eliminated because a car chase resulted in the beating and subsequent multi-million payout resulting from litigation from the Rodney King episode?

The fact that there is, and will be, recourse for anyone feeling their Constitutional Rights are violated will server to temper egregious enforcement or generate a deserving Bankruptcy from litigation payouts.

Meanwhile, this Bill has the possibility of doing more to stimulate the economy for the workers of Arizona than anything coming from Washington paid out to the Corporate interests. In this case, the impact will be jobs for those meeting the legal requirements for employment to the detriment of those not having them, and the Companies currently exploiting the current illegal work force due to lack of enforcement.

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RE: The State Senate in Arizona passes new immigration law - 4/23/2010 10:46:46 AM   
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Merc, to what charity did you send the $100.00 bucks? Idiot.


Domi Coward,

Please curtail further hijacks exhibiting your intellect and abilities and allow the adults have a discussion. Your fixation on me is tiresome and boring.

Actually I paid double the original bet and sent $200 to the ACLU as wagered with Synergy. Well worth it as you can determine for yourself if you peruse further posts on the thread referenced. Not as much a good bottle of wine but, at the time, a much better entertainment value.

I see you've now gone and done some research and history on me - Thanks for all the effort you are putting in regarding my biography. Send me your direct email and I'll consider sending an autographed picture for the cover!

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RE: The State Senate in Arizona passes new immigration law - 4/23/2010 11:26:44 AM   
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Your Jack Sip...only two fingers please......thumb and pinky fingers extended.

Back up mister, I never said I agreed with this AZ law.

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RE: The State Senate in Arizona passes new immigration law - 4/23/2010 11:33:42 AM   
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RE: The State Senate in Arizona passes new immigration law - 4/23/2010 11:42:13 AM   
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What this new law in Arizona does is legalize racial profiling,


Louve,
Where is the language in AZ Bill #SB1070 supporting this assessment? The link will take you to the document.

The "Intent" section:
  • Section 1. IntentThe legislature finds that there is a compelling interest in the cooperative enforcement of federal immigration laws throughout all of Arizona. The legislature declares that the intent of this act is to make attrition through enforcement the public policy of all state and local government agencies in Arizona. The provisions of this act are intended to work together to discourage and deter the unlawful entry and presence of aliens and economic activity by persons unlawfully present in the United States.




I only read through the entire Bill once so far, but I couldn't find any specificity on skin color. The language allows the documentation question to be asked of anyone.

More telling regarding the issue is this quote, coming from an "immigration advocate"; Joe Rubio, lead organizer for Valley Interfaith Project, a Phoenix-based advocacy group, calling it "an economic train wreck." He added that "Arizona's economic recovery will lag way behind the country's if we keep chasing away our workforce. Where do the legislators think business will find workers?"

His quote points to the larger issue. Requiring people to have a legal status to work is already a law on the books. Why should "business" have any difficulty finding workers? The difficulty would be in finding illegal workers who can be exploited by businesses based on their illegal status. Based upon Mr. Rubio's comments the Bill will reduce businesses ability to pay below minimum wage and get away with it. It will also help Arizona reduce unemployment, currently reported at 9.4%.

The proper response and question to ask Mr. Rubio would be, with the official employment rate so high, why does he think requiring all hires and workers to be in the county legally will be an "economic train wreck" and cause Arizona to lag? If anything enforcement through this bill will enhance the employment opportunities in Arizona.

It seems that Mr. Rubio, as others do commonly, accepts and patronizes 'Corporate' interests and welfare as long as the result serves his personal agenda. Mr. Rubio has his advocacy group to funnel donations.

Politicians, from both parties as represented by the McCain, currently flip flopping back as now on the 'anti-amnesty' side he formerly backed in consideration of the current plurality wind, benefit even more. Politicians get votes from the affected constituency. They also get money in PAC campaign contributions from the Corporations to maintain their cheap labor force.

The 'race card' is a smoke screen distraction.


I have read your post a couple of times and I briefly read thru the bill you posted.  You did alot of reading on this, but its not in the reading that concerns me.  If you're going strictly by the written word, then it will be hard to convince you there is such a thing as racial profiling going on.  You can insist all you want, but if you truly believe they are going to be stopping fair skinned, freckled-faced, redheads, or little framed asians...or any other person revealing ethnic traits other than the country that is bordering them then I need not waste my time trying to convince you otherwise.

As to your quoting what a politician (or politicians) say on the availability of illegals for hire, there too , if you're going to believe them, then we go by different views.  Not living in AZ, I can only go by what is available in FL.  If you're looking for them, they're here.  Ours are more apt to be towards south fl, though and they're from Cuba.  I do know of Mexican communities in fla, and know we have illegals here too.  Percentages may vary...per politician....per the cause...and agenda.

**editted to add...and as an aside, unemployment is a percentage of people who have officially claimed unemployment (or, who were officially employed).  In a border state like AZ it would be easy to skew the numbers...either way.


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RE: The State Senate in Arizona passes new immigration law - 4/23/2010 12:26:03 PM   
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If you're going strictly by the written word, then it will be hard to convince you there is such a thing as racial profiling going on.


Louve,
What law currently on the books is enforced without some form, fashion, or degree of "profiling"?

A 'drug sting' is done in areas of know drug users and purchasers.
'Johns' are baited by police in known areas of prostitution.
'Prostitutes' are solicited by police in Vegas from 'Escort' services.
'Speed traps' are set up in areas know for people speeding through them.
Here in LA, they even have 'profiling' for those who break the law regarding a pedestrian cross walk and set up 'stings' in tourist areas, who are unaware of the LA law.

When these stings and actions occur, the people baited and/or profiled are not arrested because they have been profiled - they are arrested because the pragmatically broke the law.

Same as in the case of this Bill.

You didn't ask me if I believe there is no such thing as "racial profiling". Subjected to it - I would say there is, but to me it represents a non-issue. People having the proper documents to work will not be arrested, those that don't will.

The beneficiary are those that do. Some of them will see jobs open to them, or be paid more for the job they are doing, as a result of eliminating this exploited, cheap, workforce for the businesses taking advantage of the situation.

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As to your quoting what a politician (or politicians) say on the availability of illegals for hire, there too , if you're going to believe them, then we go by different views.

To the best of my knowledge, Mr Rubio, is not a politician. He is against this legislation. Whether you, or I, believe him or not; the question that I asked regarding his position remains. Why would he think business will have difficulty finding workers if this law was implemented? Why wouldn't he be on the side of more work being available for workers legally documented, or citizens of the US? Unemployment in Arizona is at 9.4%. It seems obvious to me there are plenty of available workers to go around to satisfy the needs of those businesses. As long as they have to pay a competitive wage; which isn't necessary in the case of illegally employing non-documented individuals.

I don't see that as being racially based. However I do see it as being politically motivated, both on the corporate interest side as well as the political side.

The race card is played for one reason - it works. However, in this case when it's eliminated, it clears up the view and lets you see the naked agenda of the individuals, and special interests involved.

It wouldn't matter if the illegal aliens were green from Mars; people would be trying to distract and say it's an anti-green bias; meanwhile businesses would prefer to hire them if they could get away with paying them less and work them harder.

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In a border state like AZ it would be easy to skew the numbers...either way.
Your position is there is less unemployment than reported in Arizona? I used the "official" number; no more, or less accurate than any coming from a government source.

However, I think every incumbent Arizona politician, along with the Administration, would be saying something loud and often if they believed it overstated. First hand, I'd say the number, if anything, is understated and doesn't consider those who are 'under-employed' or have just given up looking.

Unfortunately a condition not unique to Arizona.

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RE: The State Senate in Arizona passes new immigration law - 4/23/2010 12:42:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		There are alot of variables when tabulating "factual" unemployment.  Be it through the official number of those on unemployment, the people who were independantly contracted and now out of work, vs business owners...and whatever else you can come up with.  I don't know whether Rubio was a politician or not.  But wherever a politician comes into play these days, I become suspicious and my first inclination is to second guess everything and discount most of it until I hear more.

I will agree that there is a certain amount of profiling that goes into everything that is done for the purpose it is being done (a broad statement because it can be as broad as broad can be, you're so correct there).  But is a federal law only to be enforced by the feds and not by the entire nation?  To my knowledge there was already a law in place.  That AZ wasn't happy with it and wants to make it harsher makes me wonder why.  Federal law says a person cannot enter the U.S. illegally, unless with express permission.  AZ law makes it a state crime to enter illegally, period.  It's a small difference in wording, but with repercussion no doubt, or it wouldn't be there.

It will be interesting to see what ensues.  Any guesses as to whether or not they'll make headway on ridding AZ of illegals?

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RE: The State Senate in Arizona passes new immigration law - 4/23/2010 1:15:55 PM   
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The profiling Merc is in the implementation of this law....in order for it to be effective it has to be applied in an effective manner...and intelligent people know how that is done.....by profiling.And that my friend is un-Constitutional.....Tell you ,I will bet you a week at your place in Italy this law either never goes into effect or if it by chance actually does leads to immediate lawsuits....huge damage payouts and a quick repeal.
If I'm wrong I have no freakin clue what a fair value compensation do you would be...but the point is moot...I probably couldn't afford to pay it anyway.


Mike, WTF? Who are they supposed to be looking for on that Mexican border, 6' tall red headed Scotsmen and Blond Norwegians?
Tell that to the employees of El Al airlines.
When you're looking to catch IRA members you look for white guys named "Kevin", "Sean", and "Liam!"
If you're looking for Russian Mafia guys you look for white guys named "Vladimir", "Boris", and "Leonid."
Now B.O. is all upset at Arizona's law. Boo Hoo!
He's the one who should be strictly enforcing our immigration laws and closing that Mexican border!
He should be telling Az. that he's sending 30,000 Troops down there to close that border!
If he'd done that a year ago this law would never have been passed would it?
There is a lot of anger out here about *our govt* not doing it's job in this area! Go into YahooNews and read the article about B.O. and this new law and then read the comments.
Man, a LOT of congressmen and senators are going to be givin the Bum's Rush in November because of this, John McCain included!

P.S. Mike I really don't care who gets "in" office in November, I just want most of the people who are in there now ***O-U-T !***

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RE: The State Senate in Arizona passes new immigration law - 4/23/2010 1:32:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Popeye, I have to agree with everything you're saying, right down to this law not being passed at all, if more support was given to Arizona to secure the borders and reduce illegal immigration.  I hate to keep sounding like a broken record but the key to this is starting with the hiring process of every person in this country.  If every person, regardless of color, nationality, whatever were required to fill out an I-9 along with their W4 forms, when they're hired, I would imagine a huge part of illegals would have no choice but to go back home....on their own!

An I-9 consists of showing your dr license and social security numbers...both of which could be faked, but its a start.  A better IRS system, cross checking SS#'s of deceased people, lost people (so many different variables can be included in this 'weeding out' system) to people applying for jobs with that specific SS# is one way to help with the fake ID's.

If we put our heads together, we can come up with civilized solutions.  We don't have to resort to backtracking to the days of Billy Jack's Sheriff Buford.

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RE: The State Senate in Arizona passes new immigration law - 4/23/2010 1:40:16 PM   
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Merc, to what charity did you send the $100.00 bucks? Idiot.


Domi Coward,

Please curtail further hijacks exhibiting your intellect and abilities and allow the adults have a discussion. Your fixation on me is tiresome and boring.

Actually I paid double the original bet and sent $200 to the ACLU as wagered with Synergy. Well worth it as you can determine for yourself if you peruse further posts on the thread referenced. Not as much a good bottle of wine but, at the time, a much better entertainment value.

I see you've now gone and done some research and history on me - Thanks for all the effort you are putting in regarding my biography. Send me your direct email and I'll consider sending an autographed picture for the cover!


I just want to make sure that people realize what kind of time they are wasting by attempting to engage you. I want them to realize that you are often completely wrong and mistaken in so much of what you post.

My work is done here, for now.

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RE: The State Senate in Arizona passes new immigration law - 4/23/2010 1:46:53 PM   
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But is a federal law only to be enforced by the feds and not by the entire nation? To my knowledge there was already a law in place.

Disclaimer: I am NOT a Constitutional Lawyer, and do NOT play one on TV...
Louve,

Correct! Citizenship and/or documentation verification for employment come under Federal jurisdiction. This is different, and in my opinion, totally legitimate reason for a Constitutional challenge. My reference is from the other side of the debate. In California they use this argument to justify their 'Don't Ask-Don't Tell' policy, and 'Sanctuary Cities', regarding this same issue.

There is a Federal law in place which is silent on skin color or country of origin. The debate is pointed toward enforcement and the apparent political motivation of non-enforcement. I don't see the argument that immigration falls under the State's Rights provisions of the Constitution. I noted however, that the language in AZ-SB1070, specifically rationalized around it. I'm sure that will be the basis of any challenge and, if the problem still exists, will be decided in 3-4 years by SCOTUS.

Before making the anti-illegal immigration movement Republican based; keep in mind President Bush, as well as the Republican Presidential candidate McCain both supported an 'amnesty' initiative. Public reaction stopped that from happening in the Bush Administration. President Obama's position is in line with President Bush; however, I don't think he has the political equity to get any amnesty Bill considered, especially during the next session of Congress with mid-terms looming.

Meanwhile, the people involved on both sides of the issue are being manipulated.

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RE: The State Senate in Arizona passes new immigration law - 4/23/2010 1:47:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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If you're going strictly by the written word, then it will be hard to convince you there is such a thing as racial profiling going on.


Louve,
What law currently on the books is enforced without some form, fashion, or degree of "profiling"?

A 'drug sting' is done in areas of know drug users and purchasers.
'Johns' are baited by police in known areas of prostitution.
'Prostitutes' are solicited by police in Vegas from 'Escort' services.
'Speed traps' are set up in areas know for people speeding through them.
Here in LA, they even have 'profiling' for those who break the law regarding a pedestrian cross walk and set up 'stings' in tourist areas, who are unaware of the LA law.

When these stings and actions occur, the people baited and/or profiled are not arrested because they have been profiled - they are arrested because the pragmatically broke the law.

Same as in the case of this Bill.




I'm sorry, I can see my work here is not done. The above post is exactly what is wrong with these forums...ANy and every idiot with a computer can log on and spew out their thoughts as if they were germane to the conversation.

If you think that any of the above scenarios is comparable to stopping someone because they are Hispanic you are truly beyond help.


You really don't get it.....What the hell is wrong with you?

The law will be found unconstitutional if racial profiling is the determining factor in why and how someone is stopped. You either stop everyone or you stop no one.

What the Hell is wrong with you?

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RE: The State Senate in Arizona passes new immigration law - 4/23/2010 1:49:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cowardguy

My work is done here, for now.

CG:
GREAT!

NOW get back to your Biography research!

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I'm sorry, I can see my work here is not done. The above post is exactly what is wrong with these forums...ANy and every idiot with a computer can log on and spew out their thoughts as if they were germane to the conversation.

coward, (I KNEW you couldn't keep you eyes off me and my posts you coy, silly, thing you!)
You are living proof of that statement.

Differentiated from most other posters by your representations commonly not relevant to anything, and not generated by any thought.

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If you think that any of the above scenarios is comparable to stopping someone because they are Hispanic you are truly beyond help.
Why bother asking but....

CG, If you can take time away from collecting stool samples...

Last time a similar question about reading the source document generated a cowardly and disclosing representation; "I didn't bother reading it!" Where is "Hispanic" in the law? Where is it specified any group would be singled out?

What is the IRrelevance of other crimes being enforced through different methods of 'profiling'?

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RE: The State Senate in Arizona passes new immigration law - 4/23/2010 2:01:02 PM   
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RE: The State Senate in Arizona passes new immigration law - 4/23/2010 2:16:54 PM   
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Last time a similar question about reading the source document generated a cowardly and disclosing representation; "I didn't bother reading it!" Where is "Hispanic" in the law? Where is it specified any group would be singled out?

What is the IRrelevance of other crimes being enforced through different methods of 'profiling'?


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ORIGINAL: cowardguy

Time will prove you wrong once again...sucks to be you


What a well thought out and identifying response to direct questions! Were I so inept I too would avoid being wrong by responding with attempted insult instead of answering the questions!

CG, I'll tell you something you're going to find out during your biography research. shhhhhhhh don't tell anyone....

I'm wrong often, my biggest 'wrong'? My first wife!

Wrong about you too - once I thought you had a clue.

It's why I read more things I don't agree with than things I do. Commonly they are sources of new facts and knowledge. You should try it - at least once in your life! It may raise your condition from only being an expert on shit.

However, its takes a bankroll of confidence and you have to be self assure to be take a position and admit down the road to ultimately being wrong; and there it's obvious - you are bankrupt. You even have to hide behind someone else's' image in your icon.

During your biography research you should be coming across many occurrences of me stating I was wrong and changed my position. Go back far enough and I even had a positive opinion about President Obama after his keynote Democratic convention speech in 2004.

As wrong about him back then as I was about you!

"Sucks to be.." me? - Wow, in relative terms to anything I've been wrong about - that's a nuclear attack compared to a kick from a one legged man!

I offer my best wishes to you for a "Great Weekend!"; but in your case, being you - I don't think its possible.

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RE: The State Senate in Arizona passes new immigration law - 4/23/2010 2:27:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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But is a federal law only to be enforced by the feds and not by the entire nation? To my knowledge there was already a law in place.

Disclaimer: I am NOT a Constitutional Lawyer, and do NOT play one on TV...
Louve,

Correct! Citizenship and/or documentation verification for employment come under Federal jurisdiction. This is different, and in my opinion, totally legitimate reason for a Constitutional challenge. My reference is from the other side of the debate. In California they use this argument to justify their 'Don't Ask-Don't Tell' policy, and 'Sanctuary Cities', regarding this same issue.

There is a Federal law in place which is silent on skin color or country of origin. The debate is pointed toward enforcement and the apparent political motivation of non-enforcement. I don't see the argument that immigration falls under the State's Rights provisions of the Constitution. I noted however, that the language in AZ-SB1070, specifically rationalized around it. I'm sure that will be the basis of any challenge and, if the problem still exists, will be decided in 3-4 years by SCOTUS.

Before making the anti-illegal immigration movement Republican based; keep in mind President Bush, as well as the Republican Presidential candidate McCain both supported an 'amnesty' initiative. Public reaction stopped that from happening in the Bush Administration. President Obama's position is in line with President Bush; however, I don't think he has the political equity to get any amnesty Bill considered, especially during the next session of Congress with mid-terms looming.

Meanwhile, the people involved on both sides of the issue are being manipulated.



Merc, it's going to be *fun* watching that two-faced prick McCain twisting in the wind! lol
He's already panicking watching J.D. Hayworth's numbers climbing and his numbers plummetting! NOW he wants to enforce our immigration laws and secure the border? He had 36 fucking years to do something about it and he did ZUGATS! Fuck McCain!

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RE: The State Senate in Arizona passes new immigration law - 4/23/2010 2:35:59 PM   
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it's going to be *fun* watching that two-faced prick McCain twisting in the wind!

McCain is responsible for the corporate takeover of US politics with his McCain-Feingold legislation. Ever since then - I've considered him the most reprehensible political figure in the country.

Unfortunately he's got quite a war-chest of funds from the special interest groups and campaign regulations he implemented. I am enthusiastic about Hayworth's chances; but it's still going to be an uphill climb.

My news ticker just reported this: Arizona Governor Jan Brewer has signed S.B. 1070, the tough immigration enforcement bill, into law during a press conference this afternoon.

A Rasmussen poll revealed that 70% of Arizona likely voters support the bill.

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RE: The State Senate in Arizona passes new immigration law - 4/23/2010 2:47:56 PM   
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i thought it was a requirement to carry ID at all times.


Tazzy, I don't know really, each state could have it's own laws on that!
You could always ask Thompson who's, "always *RIGHT* Godamnit!"

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