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Silence8 -> RE: African complicity in the slave trade.... (4/29/2010 8:59:39 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Elisabella
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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk
Elisabella, there are more black people jail because there are more policeman in our neighborhood than yours. Since the main job of a Policeman is to arrest someone and find a crime what do you think happens? They arrest people and find crimes. I dare say if you had this many policeman strolling/riding your neighborhood that they would have more arrests there too. But the bigger question is why are there more policeman in East Cleveland than West Cleveland? Or more in Compton and less in Glendale? Is is skin color? Is it that we do drugs more than others? Do we sell more drugs that whites? Are we just "bad"? Or is it just easier to arrest a black man than a white man.
I would imagine it has something to do with the rate of violent crime in certain neighborhoods. Unless you're going to argue that the mere presence of police causes violent crime in an otherwise peaceful neighborhood, this is just a rhetorical distraction.
As far as the drugs question goes - people often compare a black inner city drug dealer with a white college kid who sells pot to his friends and say it's unfair one gets punished more than another, if it were just a random black person I'd agree, but street gangs these days are national crime syndicates so really the only thing comparable in 'suburbia' are the low level mafia dregs.
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I just ask you this. Put yourself in a Black Man from the inner cities shoes. You haven't had the benefit of a suburb education. Your schools are patently underfunded cause property values are dropping in your area not rising. Unemployment is 30% or more in the area. There are no companies within walking distance or public transport distance. If he can find his way to the company that has jobs he might be able to do he is in line with others that have more skills and connections to land that job. So what is he left with. He still needs money to put a roof over his head. Hopefully enough dollars to feed his kids and keep a wife if possible. What do you suggest? What good answer would you have for this man? ......I know what I would do. I'd get some drugs and hang out on the corner and wait for the white businessman or mom or student to come riding by wanting to buy what I am selling....
Well I can't answer the theoretical for myself without facing a "you don't REALLY know what its like" response to anything I'd say, but your question is flawed.
Most drug dealers in those neighborhoods become involved as young teenagers or even younger as lookouts and if you have to sell drugs to feed your kids, you shouldn't have had kids. Also, from what little firsthand and secondhand knowledge I have about the inside of a courtroom, if a first offender were to tell a judge that he had been out of work for a year and was desperate to feed his children and asked the courts for help in finding a job, he'd likely get probation or suspended sentence and referred to something that would help him find work. The 'gangster' mentality of most low level drug dealers have them instead sitting stone faced raging against the system instead of trying to work it.
But anyway, I'm wondering if you're saying a person from an inner city neighborhood has *no choice* but to become involved with a crime syndicate, because if that were really true I'd imagine it would justify a lot of preemptive arrests. Of course, if it is a choice, if being born in the ghetto doesn't mean you're automatically predestined to make bad choices, then the choice you know you'd do is nothing more than the choice you'd do, and personally I'd say that however bad that choice may or may not be, you're making a far worse choice when you choose to tell yourself that it's not really your fault you made it.
What fucking trash.
Just admit you don't give a fuck. You don't give a fuck. You don't.
You don't care about anyone outside your little bubble of friends and family who probably don't love you anyway, that's just the way it is, right?
It's one thing not to give a fuck. But if there's one thing poor people in general deserve, black or white -- you know, besides silly things like a place to live and food to eat -- is for oppressive upper classes just to admit that they are evil, that they are in it only for themselves and their clique. Their definition of love necessitates hatred of everything outside its bounds.
This thread is over. This is the only relevant point.
Close it down.
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