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RE: Americans are getting serious!! - 4/25/2010 6:58:24 AM   
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I only post links when I have them handy, not upon request.  you can always google it though, I run across that independent report about year ago.


I did google it. 99% of Americans are literate in the strictest sense of the word, 14% are functionally illiterate but functionally illiterate means one is able to read and write basic words which usually includes the person's name, and even so, 14% functionally illiterate is way shy of 25%.

Of course the study could simply mean "25% of Americans are under the age of 4" but somehow I don't think that math works out either.


nope this was people of working age.  to bad I do not have that study handy.


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RE: Americans are getting serious!! - 4/25/2010 7:02:17 AM   
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I'm looking forward to the day when the TeaBaggers realize that everything they're ranting about is the direct result of their patron saint, Ronald Regan. Government debt, runaway capitolism, corporate welfare, shrinking middle-class, x-tian fundamentalists, you name it and it can be traced back to policies Regan set in motion. Sure, the players since then added fuel to the fire, but Regan lit the match. When that realization sinks in, then there will be a new dawning in the US.


And I'm looking forward to the day when the Teabaggers realize that they really did help improve the country - by preventing get-rich-quick Republicans from getting elected.


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RE: Americans are getting serious!! - 4/25/2010 7:03:57 AM   
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just for shits n giggles I plugged it into google to see what would come up and what did I find?

this is not the same report I had but it will have to do.




ILLITERACY
* The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn.
Alvin Toffler
IT'S NO WONDER: The U.S. population grew to around 250 million in 1991. But over 10%- 25+ million- cannot read or write at all. Another 45 million are functionally illiterate. That's around 28% that are out to lunch. 44% of the American adults do not read a book in a year. A publishing industry study showed that from April 1990 to March 1991, 6 out of 10 households did not buy a single book. It's no wonder the country is falling further and further behind in skills and competency. The Japanese statement that many of the U.S. workers are lazy and illiterate may be reasonably accurate. While the aspect of being lazy is subjective, a illiterate person working hard probably isn't worth that much anyway.
PEOPLE THAT DON'T READ, DON'T KNOW AND WILL NEVER FIND OUT!
MADE IN THE U.S: More than 10 million workers in small businesses (about 40%) have trouble doing their jobs because their basic skills in reading, writing and math skills are so low. 23% of manufacturing workers and 11% of management are functionally illiterate. Other estimates put the illiteracy rate at 20% of working adults overall. LITERACY: Bob Green's great article on literacy in Sundays 2/2 /92 SF Chronicle provides some interesting comments about former President Nixon and "serious reading".

`Like Nixon or not, he has written his ninth major book. He accepted as an article of faith, as did the contemporaries of his time, that reading- heavy, at times difficult reading- is the best way to learn about the world. It never occurred to them that they could be leaders and not be diligent readers.

Nixon's belief is that the way Americans (should) absorb information and learn important things is by reading thoughtful books.' In my field, the only way to keep abreast of the everchanging financial field is through intensive research- reading. But most people don't read. That is borne out in a 1992 study by the American Booksellers Association. Not only did they find that "60% of households did not buy a book last year, but that the largest group that did buy were over 65 years of age. It appears that it is only that generation who still believe that reading is a lifelong way to learn. "


"Unfortunately, reading may therefore someday be engaged in by a small minority of people who are regarded as eccentrics by their fellow citizens." Lastly, Green's book stated, "think of him as you will. But add to the poignant things about Nixon's life the fact that he's a man who clings to the belief of reaching his countrymen through considered words on the printed page- in a land where the majority of citizens apparently feel it is a waste of time." DOWNHILL:


Want to see some statistics on why the U.S. is going downhill? From the Wall Street Journal:

Daily TV Viewing SAT scores
1960 5.06 hours 975
1965 5.29 969
1970 5.56 948
1975 6.07 910
1980 6.36 890
1985 7.07 906
1990 6.55 900
1992 7.04 899

Notice a trend in TV versus brains of our children??


ILLITERATE: 1993 A recent study by the Department of Education stated that 90 million Americans possess only rudimentary literacy skills. 47 percent of America adult population perform only the simplest reading skills.


As many as 40 million of the nation's 191 million adults have only the lowest level of skills- meaning they can add the total on a bank slip or identify a piece of specific information in a brief news article.


Another 50 million can calculate a total purchase, determine the difference in price between two items and locate a specific point on a map.


61 million can decipher info from long or dense texts of documents and the remaining 34 to 40 million can complete the most challenging tasks.


But what was not identified in this article- which I have expressed previously- is that the people that can read DON'T.

And that's worse. Outside of good health, the ability AND willingness to read is the most precious commodity that any individual possesses.


Knowledge makes you a viable human being. Otherwise you just exist- and sometimes not that well. "The vast majority of Americans do not know they do not have the skills to earn a living in our increasingly technological society," says U.S. Secretary of Education, (1994) (USNews, June 1989)


There are 25 million Americans who cannot read or write at all. An additional 45 million are functionally illiterate- without the reading or writing skills to find work.


Illiteracy is compounded by the attack on English as the national language, yet civilizations rise and fall by literacy and common language. When common knowledge becomes accessible to all, common values can be defined and pursued. In our post industrial era where most Americans make a living with their minds, not their hands, it is education- more than steel, coal or even capital- that is the key to our economic future. July 1990: Consumers have accepted levels of mediocrity by doing less and less of what can actually help them.

Between 1970 and 1988, adult population grew by 36% but the number of daily newspapers subscriptions increased by only 1%. Are these same people watching the news? No! ABC, NBC and CBS have lost millions of viewers to their evening news broadcasts- and these viewers are NOT going to PBS, CNN, etc. They are NOT doing anything- except watching more and more fluff. Shows like Jeopardy, Wheel of Fortune, Cosby, Roseanne outdraw news shows by over 2:1.


ILLITERACY
: (Marcia Kaplan, SF Chronicle, 5/95) "Each year over 700,000 graduate from high school unable to read their high school diploma. The US. Department of Education says that 20% of American adults are functionally illiterate. Functional illiterates can read words but they cannot comprehend their meanings, synthesize information or make decision based on what they read. And marginally illiterate people feel most comfortable receiving information in a visual format, relying more on television than print for information.

http://www.efmoody.com/miscellaneous/illiteracy.html





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RE: Americans are getting serious!! - 4/25/2010 11:31:12 AM   
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yeh well, when you consider that 50% of the population in america are so incredibly well educated in your guv enforced school system that they can barely hold a job at Micky'Ds and 25% of all americans cant even write their name let alone realize how they are getting fucked every day.

So you may very well be right



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25% of all americans cant even write their name


I call bullshit on your assumption, RO.

http://nces.ed.gov/naal/estimates/StateEstimates.aspx

Click on all states, the graph will be generated for you. Do note the following...

* The state and county Federal Information processing Standards (FIPS) codes are standardized unique state and county identifiers. The first two positions identify the state, and the last three positions identify the county. For more information, see http://www.census.gov/geo/www/fips/fips.html
1 Estimated population size of persons 16 years and older in households in 2003.
2 Those lacking Basic prose literacy skills include those who scored Below Basic in prose and those who could not be tested due to language barriers.
3 The estimated percent lacking Basic prose literacy skills has a margin of error as measured by the associated credible interval. There is a 95% chance that the value of the percent lacking Basic prose literacy skills is contained between the lower and upper bound.
SOURCE: U.S. Department of Education, Institute of Education Sciences, National Center for Education Statistics, 2003 National Assessment of Adult Literacy

Add em all up, divide by 50, and the percentage is 12.04% "Percent lacking basic prose literacy skills"

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RE: Americans are getting serious!! - 4/25/2010 1:07:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
just for shits n giggles I plugged it into google to see what would come up and what did I find?

this is not the same report I had but it will have to do.


So your wonderful stats that support your position are almost 20 years old? Wow.


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RE: Americans are getting serious!! - 4/25/2010 8:17:25 PM   
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yep I see what I did.

I put a percent on those numbers instead of millions.

so it should have been 25 million and 50 million which drops the percentage in the order of what you said.

good catch.   One of the hazzards because I rarely google and pull literally everything from memory so this kind of thing happens once in a while.

good catch though!  :)





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RE: Americans are getting serious!! - 4/25/2010 8:29:02 PM   
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One can only marvel at the convuluted mind of a liberal.... bud, where were you when Jimmy Carter's "Stagflation" and 17 per cent interest rates just about destroyed this nation....Reagan's tax cuts ushered in more than 17 million new jobs and the prosperity began anew...the deficts were the result of him being saddled with a democrat congress that forced him to make deals he would not otherwise would have made.... You are a stooge to vilify what has been the greatest president in my lifetime, and one of the greatest ever... Corporations are made up of people, and have shareholders who own and profit from growth...I realize that the communist leftwing assholes detest the word profits as they wish to steal the wealth of the nation to hand it out to the turds who continue to elect them.... well bud, that little party is about over come November, you and the rest of the democrat party are going to get a real eyeopening as to the anger of the people to socialist Obama's administration's policies....its going to come crashing down on top of your defective bloodsucking leach socialist brain..... the democrat party is done for a looooooonnnnnngggg time to come....hide and watch bitch!

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RE: Americans are getting serious!! - 4/25/2010 8:40:47 PM   
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where were you when Jimmy Carter's "Stagflation" and 17 per cent interest rates just about destroyed this nation....Reagan's tax cuts ushered in more than 17 million new jobs and the prosperity began anew...the deficts were the result of him being saddled with a democrat congress that forced him to make deals he would not otherwise would have made.


Stagflation started with Nixon and continued through Ford and Carter, as did double digit inflation and interest rates.

Reagan's tax cuts, along with his Star Wars spending, quadrupled the national debt in just eight years, crashing the stock market in 1987, and ushering the double digit unemployment that would sink Bush I--who had to raise taxes, along with the Savings & Loan crisis/scandal. And eight years of Reagan turned the largest creditor nation in the world into the largest debtor nation.

Where were you?

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RE: Americans are getting serious!! - 4/25/2010 8:42:07 PM   
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umm... perhaps out brushing his gator's teeth, Master Tim?

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