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Termyn8or -> RE: They really do exist... (4/25/2010 6:08:16 PM)
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Aliens intelligent enough to get here would know better than to contact us. Radio was invented by Marconi I beklieve in the 1930s. The speed of light is about 186,000 miles per second. There are 43,200 minutes in a month. That means about 482 billion miles a month. Let's take 1940 as an agreed era when broadcating started, so for round figures take 1940-2000 - 60 years. That comes out to roughly 347 trillion miles and change. That is our detectable radio sphere. How far does that get us ?
It's basically 60 light years boiled down, and that should get our presence known to another star system but we have no idea whether it is inhabited or not. If they are that far away they should be picking up basic Morse code by now, which should be decipherable. However now we have a very "prolific" system. There are how many 100.7 FM radio stations, how many 1220 Khz AM radio stations and how many TV chennel 3s, 4s, 5s and so on ?
Knowing how all this shit used to work, with the stereo multiplex system, the NTSC TV system and on top of that colorplexing, I believe it would be quite a challenge, even for very advanced technology to be able to separate and decode our signals. The simply do not know the specifics, which is something I run into from time to time working. If I can't find the info I need via research I have to figure it out on my own.
Most likely, "out there" they are just picking up something from us that resembles noise, but not quite and it only alludes to the fact that there may be intelligent life here, something which I sometimes question. Like we pick up some signals that can't quite be explained on the radio telescopes and all that. Right now most of it is indiscernable as to whether it is radio braodcasts or a naturally occurring phenomenon. We have no way of knowing, how would they ? The only thing they would have to go by is the constant in sync 60Hz drone of TV broadcasts of the past, but then that was 50Hz in other countries. But it should be detectable.
And no matter what anyone says I would imagine interstellar travel is not cheap. Even if their society is not greedy and profit driven like our's, they would have to make the decision that coming here, basically on an if come, not knowing, would be worth the cost. No matter how their economy might be set up, this would be an issue.
And don't start this I am overthinking the subject, others underthink it. And too much time on my hands and I should get a life, well I got one. The difference is that I sleep thinking, I dream thinking, I take a shit thinking, I jack off thinking, I eat thinking, I drive thinking. Some don't understand, but I truly multitask. I can work on something and actually in the back of my mind have another thought process going. I mean really, how many people have given thought to the economy on a planet far away without being locked up in a looney bin ?
So honey there is no Santa Claus, and if aliens had landed here there are one of two possibilities. One is that they contacted someone who lives out in the sticks and do not desire discovery by the population at large. There is a book about that which I highly covet, and I don't even know the name of it but it describes such an event up in the mountains somewhere and the aliens were called Palladians. I don't care if it is fact or fiction it is still intriguing. Another possibility is that they came and contacted "the authorities" and are being kept hidden from our pervue by our illustrious and beneovelent leaders. Neither situation can be proved or disproved. So unfortunately we have to resort to logic.
Logic also dictates that after such a long journey, even faster thatn the speed of light possibly with their technology, they wouldn't come here and pick up some McDs and just leave. Therefore if they came, most likely they found volunteers among them to go on the trip. Money wouldn't do it because the check may be in the mail but their post office wouldn't know the zipcode to say the least, additionally there would not a branch of their bank here. That means on top of the cost of the journey, they would need supplies, because they would have no way of knowing if our environment would sustain their form of life. With advanced technology they might be able to determine that they could possibly live in our atmosphere and that gravity is similar enough, but with a half a brain they could not count on food or water at all. Or whatever they need to live, even if it is cyanide and arsenic.
So my consideed opinion on it is that if they are here they are in some government's "area 51" or something, at a large university or up in bumfuct Sweden or something with some guy who looks like a caveman.
For some time I have been accused of overthinking, but I retort that overthinking has resulted in most of the invention and innovation in the world. I could stop if it bothers you. I have already invented things which I refuse to patent, because they would become public. And most patents grant blanket rights to the government, which is EXACTLY what I do not want to happen. Y'all can "keep it real" if you choose.
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