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Forced Sissification of slave - 4/26/2010 7:32:42 AM

femtrainerNC

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I am in a situation where i need some advice from Masters with much more experience than I. I have a trans sub who wants to be a girl but needs to be forced into the process. And she fights dang hard against me every time i try to make transitions in this way. What would be some good ways to start the forced sissification of the sub. I have her wearing panties most of the time, she is live in with me so i can pretty much have her dress as needed at home.

I need examples/ideas for forced sissification that will really help start to break down the thinking of "i'm a boy".

Any advice or ideas are greatly appreciated.

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RE: Forced Sissification of slave - 4/26/2010 8:28:58 AM

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If your submissive identifies as a trans (I'm not sure whether transvestite or transexual), I'm surprised that he is insisting on *forced* feminisation. Usually people who identify that way dress on their own very eagerly. Is he fighting physically and wanting to be overcome, or making other objections? Are you trying to have him dress at work or in other inappropriate environments? You might check out some of the forced femme threads over in Ask A Mistress, since women tend to have more submissives express an interest in this activity.

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RE: Forced Sissification of slave - 4/26/2010 8:33:58 AM

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Seriously? If they want to be a girl, why are they fighting against being made a girl? Playing at being coy is one thing, but this person sounds like they have issues I wouldn't want to deal with.

Pro-tip. Transsexuals already think they're the desired gender (girl, in your sub's case), so if she's a transsexual, there should be no need to "break down her 'I'm a boy' thinking." Transvestites dress up like the opposite gender, but accept the gender they're already in. So if she's a transvestite, the only thinking that's possible is "I'm a boy," but she wouldn't have a reason to fight you on dressing. Maybe you should figure out where this person's motivations are, and what's really going on with them.

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RE: Forced Sissification of slave - 4/26/2010 8:41:49 AM

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She does at all time identify as a girl. And is actually very passable as a girl. Some part of her fights against it. She is at her happiest when dressed and acting like a girl. BUT the process of gettting there is what is complicated and that is what i am trying to break down. She sees herself as a girl but does not think she is passable and does not think that she looks good as a girl (which is not true too many straight guys have already hit on her when she is dressed up). When she gets past the fighting then she is totally a girl in evey way. She has the internal struggle of having been rasised as a boy and now trying to overcome all that to be a girl. She has wanted to fully be a girl since age 6 or 7 atleast now she is 20. And she has only been working on this a year. it is a unique situation but something i have ran into with many trans is the desire to be a girl/dress as a girl and some strong desire to fight against it. This girl just seems to fight hard and we are both wanting to break down that barrier, she tries but gets emotional.

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RE: Forced Sissification of slave - 4/26/2010 8:59:52 AM

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Am trans/ cd myself. While I do like to dress, so many have suggested that I go enfemme full time. I do like to be dressed while under controll of a Mistress, but have never ventured out dressed. Not sure about your sub's background, but as for me, I cannot bring myself to be in some situations dressed. Places like work for example. Almost everyone in my life has always seen me as male, and it's a shock to most when I tell them I dress female. If this is her issue, then she might want to be in contact with others who dress also. If not and I've missed point entirely, then apologies for jumping into middle of discussion.

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RE: Forced Sissification of slave - 4/26/2010 9:05:19 AM

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...she might want to be in contact with others who dress also.

That's exactly what I was thinking. If she needs reassurance and understanding then people who know *exactly* what she's going through might be the most helpful-and they would probably also give you the best advice about how to help, too

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RE: Forced Sissification of slave - 4/26/2010 11:33:51 AM

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quote:

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She does at all time identify as a girl. And is actually very passable as a girl. Some part of her fights against it. She is at her happiest when dressed and acting like a girl. BUT the process of gettting there is what is complicated and that is what i am trying to break down. She sees herself as a girl but does not think she is passable and does not think that she looks good as a girl (which is not true too many straight guys have already hit on her when she is dressed up). When she gets past the fighting then she is totally a girl in evey way. She has the internal struggle of having been rasised as a boy and now trying to overcome all that to be a girl. She has wanted to fully be a girl since age 6 or 7 atleast now she is 20. And she has only been working on this a year. it is a unique situation but something i have ran into with many trans is the desire to be a girl/dress as a girl and some strong desire to fight against it. This girl just seems to fight hard and we are both wanting to break down that barrier, she tries but gets emotional.

You are not her therapist. Even if you are a licensed therapist, you should not be treating her because you are in a relationship with her. She needs someone who knows about gender identity. There are too many deep rooted issues here that you're trying to fix by working on the surface symptoms.

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RE: Forced Sissification of slave - 4/26/2010 12:27:15 PM

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Back in the day (70s), I produced female impersonator shows (one of the largest) and coached the “girls” in their professional and personal lives on how to walk, talk and think like women. However, I never met a “trans” that was reluctant. I do recall all the steps to “womanhood”. Lets see if I remember this,

Electrolysis on the face
Electrolysis on the ass
Pull the wisdom teeth (and some molars if a more sallow look is required)
Psych eval & hormone prescription
Voice training
Cheek implants
Nose job
Collagen shots in the lips
Breast implants
Ass implants
sex change

I hope this gives you a few thing to pick from for your “to do” list. I just don't see how you are gonna force any of this. Becoming a woman seems like it needs to be an internal decision . . . but you could kidnap and shave a silverback gorilla, then run them through that list and they will probably look like a passable woman.

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RE: Forced Sissification of slave - 4/26/2010 2:08:42 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: femtrainerNC

She does at all time identify as a girl. And is actually very passable as a girl. Some part of her fights against it. She is at her happiest when dressed and acting like a girl. BUT the process of gettting there is what is complicated and that is what i am trying to break down. She sees herself as a girl but does not think she is passable and does not think that she looks good as a girl (which is not true too many straight guys have already hit on her when she is dressed up). When she gets past the fighting then she is totally a girl in evey way. She has the internal struggle of having been rasised as a boy and now trying to overcome all that to be a girl. She has wanted to fully be a girl since age 6 or 7 atleast now she is 20. And she has only been working on this a year. it is a unique situation but something i have ran into with many trans is the desire to be a girl/dress as a girl and some strong desire to fight against it. This girl just seems to fight hard and we are both wanting to break down that barrier, she tries but gets emotional.

Which is why most if not all who are gender transitioning do undergo at least 2 years of psychiatric counselling to assist them in getting past the barriers to internally think/act in a manner that reflects the gender they are transitioning to.

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RE: Forced Sissification of slave - 4/26/2010 4:16:11 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: femtrainerNC

She does at all time identify as a girl. And is actually very passable as a girl. Some part of her fights against it. She is at her happiest when dressed and acting like a girl. BUT the process of gettting there is what is complicated and that is what i am trying to break down. She sees herself as a girl but does not think she is passable and does not think that she looks good as a girl (which is not true too many straight guys have already hit on her when she is dressed up). When she gets past the fighting then she is totally a girl in evey way. She has the internal struggle of having been rasised as a boy and now trying to overcome all that to be a girl. She has wanted to fully be a girl since age 6 or 7 atleast now she is 20. And she has only been working on this a year. it is a unique situation but something i have ran into with many trans is the desire to be a girl/dress as a girl and some strong desire to fight against it. This girl just seems to fight hard and we are both wanting to break down that barrier, she tries but gets emotional.

I have to agree with others that some counseling is probably in order here - not everyone is meant to transition. That was a hard thing for me to realize - there IS a middle ground and perhaps she needs to explore that a little. If she is not just burning up to be female, then very possibly there are barriers that she needs to work through. And perhaps she may find those barriers are not movable and she may ultimately choose a third place.

I am in that third place. I sort of live in both worlds and am very happy being there. I am not going to transition and have made that choice myself. I have chosen instead to integrate these two parts of myself and express externally what I have felt inside for many many years. It is not an easy path either, but it is where I am most comfortable. Happy to talk to her via cmail if she has any questions or wants someone like her to listen and talk to. :)

I believe that such a life changing thing as gender transition needs to be directed from within a person by themselves. Forced fem is a great fantasy and if a person is on the path of transition by their own choice, then aiding or even accelerating that path as a dominate in their lives might be okay. If they are yet to step on that path, forcing them to do so is unwise, unethical, and pure fantasy because if they are not meant to be there, they won't stay.

Hope that helps. :)

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RE: Forced Sissification of slave - 4/26/2010 7:02:24 PM

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lock the lil sluts cock up in a cage so it cannot get hard or played with.. sissys do not need it anyway.

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RE: Forced Sissification of slave - 4/26/2010 10:48:16 PM

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well, THAT was helpful..

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RE: Forced Sissification of slave - 4/27/2010 2:22:15 AM

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In such circumstances I tend to use positive reinforcement techniques, not negative ones, so it is less 'forced', more 'encouraged'.

So she gets more compliments, cuddles, treats, other things she likes if she does what she needs to learn to do.

A chastity device can be helpful at the right stage too. Counselling can help too.

But at the end of the day it has to be her choice, you cannot and should not take the responsibility of 'forcing' her.

Because at the end of the day, if you do that, she can turn around and consciously or otherwise 'blame' you if things go badly.

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RE: Forced Sissification of slave - 5/18/2010 3:01:06 PM

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ORIGINAL: Miyani Transsexuals already think they're the desired gender (girl, in your sub's case), so if she's a transsexual, there should be no need to "break down her 'I'm a boy' thinking."

Minor semantic point; transgendered persons are the gender they are (MtF = female), they're just the wrong sex. Like I said, MINOR semantic point, but it bears mention.

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RE: Forced Sissification of slave - 5/19/2010 2:16:49 AM

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Your trans friend is probably having trouble getting through a lifetime of macho programming, come on, guys have spent a lifetime being set up to be men, you can't expect someone to just put on pair of tights and instantly be a girl?
By pretending (and the word is pretending, all this is a game after all) you are giving him permission to turn of the macho ometer and have a holiday, both from being in charge and simply from being male, which is not always that easy if you don't like it.
I've lost count of how many girls wanted to to tied or held down during sex, they got a lot more out of it when they felt released from having to be in charge, it would be sheer sexism to say that some men would not be the same.
I have some very good friends who are TV's both dom and sub and some of them are strong enough and tough enough to wrap my legs around my neck if they wanted to, but they want to be feminine. Some of them, after years of doing it, still need that frisson of being able to fantasise that they are being made to do it, that it's not their fault, that they are being turned into someone else.
If someone wants to be a girl, where's the harm? If someone wants to pretend that they are being made to be girl, I see nothing wrong with that.
It may just be his way of being comfortable with being her.

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RE: Forced Sissification of slave - 5/19/2010 3:44:08 AM

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Or she's just playing him for attention. What would happen OP if you didn't force the issue at all?

If you told her when she's ready then you'll both proceed?

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RE: Forced Sissification of slave - 5/19/2010 8:03:48 AM

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Yes, what she said.

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ORIGINAL: Miyani

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Seriously? If they want to be a girl, why are they fighting against being made a girl? Playing at being coy is one thing, but this person sounds like they have issues I wouldn't want to deal with.

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RE: Forced Sissification of slave - 5/19/2010 8:05:24 AM

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Another thing... what's with all this 'she' business? It's a guy. It always will be a guy.

Sorry if that sounds harsh or bursts some bubbles.

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RE: Forced Sissification of slave - 5/19/2010 8:45:20 AM

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Another thing... what's with all this 'she' business? It's a guy. It always will be a guy.

Sorry if that sounds harsh or bursts some bubbles.

What's with all this "slave" and "master" or "dominant" and "submissive" business? You're both free people. You will always be free people.

Sorry if this sounds harsh or bursts some bubbles. Oh, and statistically most relationships end in breakup or divorce, and most people in a recession will die poor, so you should just not bother aspiring to anything at all. Stay home and don't date.

Sex and gender are complex issues. It's not anywhere near as simple or as binary as less educated people want to think.

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RE: Forced Sissification of slave - 5/19/2010 8:51:36 AM

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Oh Boy here we go again. Sounds like a head game to me. Unless your a lot bigger, stronger and willing to be there 24 7 <jail comes to mind> you can't "force anyone to do anything" they really dont want to do for a extended period of time. Either your into head games or your not.

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