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Big Brother to track your medication compliance with el... - 4/27/2010 7:36:00 AM   
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(NaturalNews) Now that the U.S. government has achieved its monopoly over health care, new technologies are in the works that will allow the government to remotely monitor and track whether ordinary citizens are complying with taking medications prescribed by conventional doctors. One new technology described at the U.S. Senate Committee on Aging allows "pills to be electronically outfitted with transmitters" which would track the patient's compliance with medications and broadcast that information back to government health care enforcers who check for "compliance and efficacy."

"Emerging technologies allow pills to be electronically outfitted with transmitters to communicate with the user's wristwatch that shows that the pill has been consumed," said University of Virginia professor Robin Felder at the committee meeting. "Broadband connectivity of these devices would allow the electronic medical record to be updated with regard to medication compliance and efficacy."

This would allow government health operators, for example, to know whether you've taken all your prescribed psychiatric medications. If you veer from the course of pharmaceuticals prescribed by your doctor, health care enforcement agents could be dispatched to your door to make sure you start taking your pills.

Parents who currently attempt to protect their children from toxic medical therapies such as chemotherapy could be closely monitored by government medical enforcement agents. If you try to flush dangerous pharmaceuticals down the toilet instead of actually taking them, the lack of an electronic tracking signal will let your health care observers know you didn't really take the pills.

Get ready for E-CareIt's all part of a new push called E-Care which involves a number of medical devices that monitor you in your home and report back to government authorities. A blood pressure monitoring device, for example, could report your blood pressure to your government-approved doctor. A blood sugar monitoring device could determine if you've eaten too much sugar and order you to take more diabetes pills to try to compensate.

Big Government, you see, doesn't just want to monopolize health care; it wants to monitor your compliance with it. If you depart from their system of pharmaceuticals, you may be found unfit as a parent, for example. Or possibly just declared insane (which gets you drugged with psych meds).

Big Brother snooping in on your dietOne of the ultimate goals of this remote monitoring technology is to install a blood monitoring chip in your arm that would sample and run diagnostic tests on your blood every few minutes. While this could be used in a positive way to detect early signs of cancer or liver problems, for example, it could also be used to snoop on the dietary habits of everyday citizens.

If you take too much vitamin C, for example -- beyond what is allowed by CODEX -- it could trigger a monitored alert that causes government-run medical operatives to force their way into your home and confiscate your "non-compliant" vitamins.

If your vitamin D levels rise high enough to actually prevent cancer, they could have you arrested for "spending too much time in the sun" and thrown into a hospital with no windows to, as they claim, "Protect you from skin cancer."

These are some of the very practical realities that could theoretically emerge in the dystopian medicalized society that seems to be getting closer with each passing day.

We're monitoring you for your own goodThis isn't science fiction: It's modern medical fact. As CNSNews reports, "...Areas of interest include medicines that can tell a doctor if they have been taken on time [and] wireless monitoring of nutritional information..."

Of course, as with all privacy-invading monitoring devices, government will argue that monitoring you is "for your own good." You can expect an RFID chip to be implanted in your arm, too, containing your entire medical history. So every time you pass near an RFID reader at a government-controlled facility (airports, schools, interstate toll booths, etc.), your entire medical history can be scanned and assessed for a variety of metrics.

http://www.naturalnews.com/028663_health_care_technology.html
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RE: Big Brother to track your medication compliance wit... - 4/27/2010 7:38:47 AM   
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You are going to be shit outta luck, they got you now.

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RE: Big Brother to track your medication compliance wit... - 4/27/2010 7:45:00 AM   
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more paranoid BS

eg if there is a transmitter portion in the pill, surely that will end up "down the toilet" at some point - how will they know which pill's transmitter it is (today's? yesterday's?)
imagine the COST of monitoring this

hunky - take your fucking pills and stop reading this shit
or take em all and spare us reading it
mad twats ahoy!

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RE: Big Brother to track your medication compliance wit... - 4/27/2010 7:51:07 AM   
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SI,

You never heard of 'TrackATurd'?

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RE: Big Brother to track your medication compliance wit... - 4/27/2010 7:55:52 AM   
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hold on, I am loading up "GoogleTurd" - I prefer the interface

how can ANYONE believe this nonsense
you going to have tracking systems at every toilet?
what if I eat chilli in a rough joint and crap that day's pill out within hours of taking it ?
what if I go out of town ?
some people revel in their own, pathetic fears


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RE: Big Brother to track your medication compliance wit... - 4/27/2010 7:56:20 AM   
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I will now look at my vitamins in a whole different light...

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RE: Big Brother to track your medication compliance wit... - 4/27/2010 8:23:20 AM   
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Even if possible, even if confined solely to exception reporting and even if the requisite information could be gathered as to those exceptions, who is going to follow up perhaps 50,000 to 100,000 exception reports per day, with a backlog growing daily that would be into the many millions of exception reports by the end of the first month?

Its utterly impractical and one must say, pointless. Now if it were do-able, and it were used to monitor patients who could then be released early from hospital or convalescent care, that might work better, be more manageable and have a point to it.

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RE: Big Brother to track your medication compliance wit... - 4/27/2010 8:27:23 AM   
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I worry that the legislation will CLEARLY promote nasty digital watches - and I denounce it accordingly

plus, its a total crock of BS that would only worry someone who already lives in a world of completely deluded paranoia

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RE: Big Brother to track your medication compliance wit... - 4/27/2010 8:31:37 AM   
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quote:

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I worry that the legislation will CLEARLY promote nasty digital watches - and I denounce it accordingly

plus, its a total crock of BS that would only worry someone who already lives in a world of completely deluded paranoia



Then walk away from the thread.   No one asked you if you are paranoid.

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RE: Big Brother to track your medication compliance wit... - 4/27/2010 9:29:28 AM   
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how will they know if you take them, or your neighbor?

And how much does your boy charge for speaking engagements?

http://www.healthranger.org/index.html

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RE: Big Brother to track your medication compliance wit... - 4/27/2010 9:34:14 AM   
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I wonder how you can give this errant NONSENSE even a moment's attention

it is irrational, impractical and absolutely freakin pointless

want to monitor drug use - make em attend a clinic for their meds to be administered - they dont show, arrest warrants are automatic - much easier to administer
and I warrant cheaper than having a pill with its own ID code and transmitter built in (oh yes!)

a wristwatch transmitter/monitor is hardly "covert" after all, so not like there is a "secret" element to the process

anyone giving this kind of crap credence needs to up their own meds, covertly-monitored or not

just another sign of the delusions and paranoia that afflict members of society - no wonder so many people are out on the streets who really shouldn't be there

yup, that means YOU

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RE: Big Brother to track your medication compliance wit... - 4/27/2010 9:44:30 AM   
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Say hello to the boys at cointell. 

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RE: Big Brother to track your medication compliance wit... - 4/27/2010 9:52:03 AM   
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But the bill did not mandate implantable devices of any kind, least of all microchips. Rather, it said that implantable devices will be registered so that physicians can access data about safety and effectiveness in a way that "protects patient privacy and proprietary information." And again, it didn’t become law.

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/04/more-malarkey-about-health-care/

Now, you show me where it is a law, then you have a legit complaint.

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RE: Big Brother to track your medication compliance wit... - 4/27/2010 9:58:09 AM   
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oh it doesnt matter - in the crazed world of gilded lead collectors, anything is possible

enjoy your fear, hunky - the NWO are on their way.... Pink Elephants became extinct in 1983 (curse their tasty flesh)

your "arguments" collapse under the weight of even the merest shadow of a fact as it passes by on its way to sensible minds - god knows how you function in society - if you manage at all

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RE: Big Brother to track your medication compliance wit... - 4/27/2010 10:06:15 AM   
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Well tie a yellow ribbon round that old smelly turd....

Tony Orlando and Dawn of the NWO

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RE: Big Brother to track your medication compliance wit... - 4/27/2010 10:09:33 AM   
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quote:

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oh it doesnt matter - in the crazed world of gilded lead collectors, anything is possible

enjoy your fear, hunky - the NWO are on their way.... Pink Elephants became extinct in 1983 (curse their tasty flesh)

your "arguments" collapse under the weight of even the merest shadow of a fact as it passes by on its way to sensible minds - god knows how you function in society - if you manage at all


You need to be medicated.

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RE: Big Brother to track your medication compliance wit... - 4/27/2010 10:11:13 AM   
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Where is the law that requires people being implanted, pahunk.

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RE: Big Brother to track your medication compliance wit... - 4/27/2010 10:11:38 AM   
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quote:

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You are going to be shit outta luck, they got you now.

Why?  He's clearly not taking his meds.

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RE: Big Brother to track your medication compliance wit... - 4/27/2010 10:11:58 AM   
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Hunk, you and I see eye to eye on many things but this post suggests you are afflicted with and suffer from a manufactured paranoia. Are you a Tea party lemming too ?

Clearly the next time (or 4 years from now under this law) when you need to deal with health care, be sure and come back here to tell us how it felt do deal with that govt. monopoly that you concocted out of that ever-active mind of yours. And to think...all without seeing or dealing with anybody or receiving any money from the govt.

The govt. has no more monopolized health care (in fact still does much less than what govt. does in actually paying 100's of $Billions in farm subsidies that has not monopolized farming or agriculture, or than has the govt. monopolized banks using their single-payer health insurance govt. run program called thew FDIC and we want all of that bullshit monitored.

Your thoughts suggest you could be a charter member of the TV...er Tea party, believing anything bad...your radio and TV talking-head heroes would love you to believe.

As for govt. monitoring ? That maybe possible in the future and of course could be a future segway to further fascism but given that this is about money and power, will occur if it ever does come...something for your grandchildren to look into and pay for.

You see, whatever is in my pills and is not soluble, goes in one end...and comes out the other. So, there's a long way to go on that one. Even if they mastered the technology you and your sources suggest is coming...it will pit capitalist against capitalist in the marketplace for pills that don't comply. (and we just can't have that)

Now that we have straightened that out...just what is on your mind ?

< Message edited by MrRodgers -- 4/27/2010 10:15:42 AM >

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RE: Big Brother to track your medication compliance wit... - 4/27/2010 10:12:28 AM   
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Where is the law that bans it?

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