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LaTigresse -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/12/2010 2:20:33 PM)

Whoops........my error!!!!!!!!!




herfacechair -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/12/2010 2:21:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

Yes, and notice the difference between their comments and yours.



"Aylee is an Army veteran; I'm currently on active duty. We both gave you sound advice." -herfacechair

"Because, you see, as someone who served in the Army I thought that my advice was pretty good." -Aylee

Other than semantics, What difference? For added measure:

"I have talked to more than a few vets coming home and most have stories similar to yours." -Kana




ShaharThorne -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/12/2010 2:22:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

Most who serve shut the fuck up about it.



DAMN STRAIGHT!!!

US Army '85 to '87

I know when to talk and when to shut up.




Jeffff -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/12/2010 2:23:02 PM)

Then I want Kana to come back and tell me about troops being gassed.

I want Kana to come back and tell me about the evidence that WMD's exist.

Or I will take the word of any other poster I know here.


I respect Aylee, she isn't a blow hard.




mnottertail -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/12/2010 2:26:00 PM)

I want to see said articles in the army times.




rulemylife -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/12/2010 2:26:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: herfacechair

First, the title of the thread: “Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any...”

My mentioning my being in the military had everything to do with the intent of this thread.

Second, from this thread:

“Thank you for your service.
Vietnam Veteran” - RacerJim

“As an Army wife, and former Army Nurse Corps officer, I thank you deeply for your service.” -takemeforyourown

“I am a military guy,” -mnottertail

“You may be a little too young to remember General waste more land giving his little pep talks from the front telling the american people the first hand blah blah balh...
Funny your tail sounds just like his...I know his story was bullshit because I was there when he was running his mouth” -thompsonx

“Because, you see, as someone who served in the Army I thought that my advice was pretty good.” -Aylee

Most DO mention it, especially in a debate where they could draw on their experience. This is what I’ve seen in my online debates over the years.



I've already thanked you for your service to the Earthrealm, what more do you want?

Is Mom making brownies tonight?




thompsonx -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/12/2010 2:26:23 PM)

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My mentioning my being in the military had everything to do with the intent of this thread.


Of course who would believe a blowhard who said he was not in the military?




thompsonx -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/12/2010 2:35:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

Then I want Kana to come back and tell me about troops being gassed.

I want Kana to come back and tell me about the evidence that WMD's exist.

Or I will take the word of any other poster I know here.


I respect Aylee, she isn't a blow hard.



Jeff,you fuzzy lil rascal, you know me and you know I dont lie.
There are thousands of tons of wmds and they are just down the road a piece in seal beach california at the at the navel weapons depot.
I know this because I lived across the street from that place for a few years and from time to time they have an open house where they invite the public in to see how safely they store the "war toys".




jlf1961 -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/12/2010 2:36:22 PM)

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Q:Were there really weapons of mass destruction in Iraq when the U.S. invaded in 2003?

A:No. The Iraq Survey Group determined that Iraq had abandoned its quest to develop chemical, biological and nuclear weapons and that it had already destroyed all of its existing stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons.As for how you dispel your friends' notions that Iraq really did have stockpiles of chemical or biological weapons when President Bush no longer makes such claims himself, we suggest ridicule. If that doesn’t work, you may be out of luck.

After the invasion of Iraq in 2003, the Bush administration formed the Iraq Survey Group and tasked it with the job of locating WMD stockpiles in Iraq. The ISG was staffed with hundreds of intelligence analysts and military personnel from the United States, the United Kingdom and Australia. The group scoured Iraq, searching for deposits of weapons. But that was actually only part of the ISG’s focus.

According to the ISG final report, the search for WMDs actually began during the invasion phase of Operation Iraqi Freedom. A military task force was deployed to investigate suspected WMD sites on the theory that the Iraqi military might otherwise employ those weapons against coalition troops. After the invasion, the ISG was established to conduct "a more systematic collection of evidence to build an understanding of Iraqi WMD programs." In other words, the ISG did not simply look for WMDs. The group also looked at Iraq's WMD capabilities and examined evidence relating to past WMD stockpiles.

During its investigation, the ISG reported that "[a] total of 53 munitions have been recovered, all of which appear to have been part of pre-1991 Gulf war stocks based on their physical condition and residual components." These isolated discoveries received significant media attention, and it's likely that these overhyped reports contributed to your friends' beliefs that Iraq really did possess WMDs. But the finds were rare, and the ISG concluded that they were not part of a significant stockpile of weapons. Indeed, after nearly two years of investigation, the ISG concluded that:
  • "Saddam Husayn ended the nuclear program in 1991 following the Gulf war. ISG found no evidence to suggest concerted efforts to restart the program."
  • "While a small number of old, abandoned chemical munitions have been discovered, ISG judges that Iraq unilaterally destroyed its undeclared chemical weapons stockpile in 1991. There are no credible indications that Baghdad resumed production of chemical munitions thereafter."
  • "In practical terms, with the destruction of the Al Hakam facility, Iraq abandoned its ambition to obtain advanced BW [biological warfare] weapons quickly. ISG found no direct evidence that Iraq, after 1996, had plans for a new BW program or was conducting BW-specific work for military purposes."
Experts from the three nations failed to document any existent biological or nuclear weapons and discovered only a few random chemical weapons. The ISG concluded that contrary to what most of the world had believed, Iraq had abandoned attempts to produce WMDs. In his congressional testimony, the head of the ISG, Charles Duelfer, admitted, "We were almost all wrong" on Iraq.

The ISG report was sufficient to convince the Bush administration that there were no WMDs to be found; they called off the search in 2005. If that doesn’t convince your friends, we’re not sure what else might do the trick. Anyone who believes something without any positive evidence and in the face of evidence to the contrary is no longer acting on the basis of reason


http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/were_there_really_weapons_of_mass_destruction.html

And if you want to read the final report for yourself, http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/report/2004/isg-final-report/

Considering that I have a cousin who is still recuperating from wounds received in the Iraqi invasion, and he has never mentioned anything and knows of no instance where chemical weapons were used against Allied forces.

Considering the number of reporters imbedded in the various point elements I would suspect that someone would have reported it, considering that it would have taken a lot of the criticism the US took for invading.




Jeffff -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/12/2010 2:37:30 PM)

The conservatively liberal media is covering the whole thing up!




thompsonx -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/12/2010 2:37:44 PM)

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DAMN STRAIGHT!!!

I know when to talk and when to shut up.



I think I am falling in love here.[;)]




thompsonx -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/12/2010 2:45:02 PM)

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http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/were_there_really_weapons_of_mass_destruction.html

And if you want to read the final report for yourself, http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/report/2004/isg-final-report/

Considering that I have a cousin who is still recuperating from wounds received in the Iraqi invasion, and he has never mentioned anything and knows of no instance where chemical weapons were used against Allied forces.

Considering the number of reporters imbedded in the various point elements I would suspect that someone would have reported it, considering that it would have taken a lot of the criticism the US took for invading.


_____________________________



jlf:
Why are you directing this to me?
Maybe you should go back and read what I posted?




LaTigresse -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/12/2010 2:46:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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DAMN STRAIGHT!!!

I know when to talk and when to shut up.



I think I am falling in love here.[;)]


Two timer!!!!!!!!!




jlf1961 -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/12/2010 2:56:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/were_there_really_weapons_of_mass_destruction.html

And if you want to read the final report for yourself, http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/report/2004/isg-final-report/

Considering that I have a cousin who is still recuperating from wounds received in the Iraqi invasion, and he has never mentioned anything and knows of no instance where chemical weapons were used against Allied forces.

Considering the number of reporters imbedded in the various point elements I would suspect that someone would have reported it, considering that it would have taken a lot of the criticism the US took for invading.


_____________________________



jlf:
Why are you directing this to me?
Maybe you should go back and read what I posted?



Wasnt directed at you.  It was directed at the op.




thompsonx -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/12/2010 3:27:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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DAMN STRAIGHT!!!

I know when to talk and when to shut up.



I think I am falling in love here.[;)]


Two timer!!!!!!!!!




wrong...
The word you are looking for is slut[;)]




ShaharThorne -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/12/2010 3:31:26 PM)

[sm=rofl.gif][sm=sex.gif]

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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DAMN STRAIGHT!!!

I know when to talk and when to shut up.



I think I am falling in love here.[;)]


Two timer!!!!!!!!!




wrong...
The word you are looking for is slut[;)]





LaTigresse -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/12/2010 3:38:50 PM)

Shameless! Positively shameless!!!!!!!!!




thompsonx -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/12/2010 3:54:41 PM)

yup[;)]




herfacechair -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/12/2010 6:10:56 PM)

Holy fucking shit! Someone in the opposition is finally starting to get it!

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Well one thing you have proven..........your ability to portray yourself as a windbag and a putz.

And that's about as much attention as you are worth.


psssst, if people start ignoring him he just might go away



It took you 533 posts for you to realize that? That's what I've been trying to tell you people! [:o]

"The only way I won't check back into this thread is if you guys don't give me reason to." -herfacechair





herfacechair -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/12/2010 6:13:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ShaharThorne

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

Most who serve shut the fuck up about it.



DAMN STRAIGHT!!!

US Army '85 to '87

I know when to talk and when to shut up.


Jeffff is wrong, both concept and reality. I've been on numerous forums where people didn't hesitate to mention their military service. On two forums that I've been on, the majority of the military posters "opened their mouths" about being in the military.




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