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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 5/12/2010 8:01:33 PM   
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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 5/12/2010 8:02:13 PM   
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Not only is my statement logical, it's common sense.



It might be common sense if someone had a negative IQ.
If your position is valid why has not either the previous or the current administration taken the same line of reasoning....perhaps because even bush&co
have three digit IQs.
Instead you stomp your foot like a petulant child demanding that we see it your way.
Tell me are you this way with the gunny or the lt when they tell you it is time to bathe?

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 5/12/2010 9:01:44 PM   
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It was posted to show you how silly your yes no question is.


No, it's not silly. It's a straight forward question that tests the validity of your claims. You've failed to answer it.



Just as my question is and you have failed to answer it...which means that you are obviously hiding something.
What is it that you are hiding?
What are you lying about?
Why are you afraid to answer the qustion?
Why is it that when ever baghdad bob is not around neither are you?
A coincidence?
Do you and he go off together each night?
Why are you afraid to answer my questions?


WRONG!

Your question was loaded. A loaded question doesn't capture reality, it automatically accuses the person of doing something. It would be like me asking someone, who has never abused animals, when they stopped abusing animals.

Your question is nothing like my question, which is straight forward. You're either right, or you're wrong. Did they lie? The answer is obvious. It's a simple yes/no question. You refuse to answer that question, because you know that you automatically prove me right, and you wrong, when you chose the right answer.

I'm here, Baghdad Bob isn't. There goes yet another one of your theories. Good luck trying to convince yourself that you're right, because I see you as being completely wrong.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 5/12/2010 9:08:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		thompsonx: It might be common sense if someone had a negative IQ.

So says the guy who's living proof that a man could live without a brain. Negative asswipe, the conditions to prove either side of our argument is common sense, plain and simple. Let's simplify this for you.

You: There were no WMD

Me: There were WMD

In order to prove that there were no WMD, you have to prove that they don't exist. The moment that something like Sarin is used, your whole argument gets proven wrong.

Was Sarin gas found? YES
Is Sarin a Chemical Agent? YES
Are chemical agents WMD? YES
Was WMD found in Iraq? YES!

Simple common sense, I proved my point using logic. By extension, you're wrong.

thompsonx: If your position is valid why has not either the previous or the current administration taken the same line of reasoning....perhaps because even bush&co
have three digit IQs.

From a logic standpoint, you're advancing an inductive fallacy. From a common sense standpoint, you're advancing a straw man argument. A fact is fact, regardless of whether the administration, the mailman, or the basketweaver, acknowledges it or not.

thompsonx: Instead you stomp your foot like a petulant child demanding that we see it your way.

What you mistake as my doing the above is my demanding that you answer an easy question... a question where you're giving the answer. It's TOO EASY we say it in the Army:

From MSNBC: "Bomb Said to hold deadly sarin gas explodes in Iraq"

"The Iraqi Survey Group confirmed today that a 155-millimeter artillery round containing sarin nerve agent had been found," said Kimmitt, the chief military spokesman in Iraq. "The round had been rigged as an IED [improvised explosive device] which was discovered by a U.S. force convoy.

Were the Iraqi Survey Group, and Kimmitt, lying and telling half truths in that MSNBC article? YES [ ] NO [ ]

I don't want your SPIN... simply copy and paste everything from "From MSNBC" all the way to "YES [ ] NO [ ]." Place an "X" in the appropriate box.

thompsonx: Tell me are you this way with the gunny or the lt when they tell you it is time to bathe?

This statement makes me doubt that you've ever served, as you've insinuated in this thread. WE DON'T HAVE GUNNERY SERGEANTS IN THE ARMY DUMBASS! Also, you're talking about the infantry, one of the dirtiest job positions in the Army. An LT telling someone to bath? ROTFLMFAO! You weren't in Vietnam, weren't you?

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 5/12/2010 9:14:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

Then I want Kana to come back and tell me about troops being gassed.

I want Kana to come back and tell me about the evidence that WMD's exist.

Or I will take the word of any other poster I know here.


I respect Aylee, she isn't a blow hard.


Jeff, while I have not really kept up with all the news stuff in the last couple of years, I think that the WMD's found were:
1.77 metric tons of enriched uranium  (yellowcake but not THE yellow cake)
1,500 gallons of chemical weapons agents
17 chemical warheads containing cyclosarin (a nerve agent five times more deadly than sarin gas)
Over 1,000 radioactive materials in powdered form meant for dispersal over populated areas
Roadside bombs loaded with mustard and "conventional" sarin gas, assembled in binary chemical projectiles for maximum potency
 
On July 7, 2004, the BBC reported U.S. forces seized 1.77 tons of bomb-grade uranium. On the same day, the BBC reported that materials were found which were “ideal for a radioactive dirty bomb.”  (actually it was yellowcake but not of a grade for making dirty bombs)
On July 2, 2004, the BBC reported that Polish General Dukaczewski was responsible for the purchase of 17 chemical warheads containing cyclosarin, a nerve agent five times more deadly than sarin gas. The warheads had been buried in the desert, but a cash-hungry informant sold them to Polish troops for $5,000 each. (granted the nerve agent had deteriorated.)
 
Also, there were reports of Russian tanks removing "things" from Iraq before the invasion.
 
The other issue is that many of these weapons are no longer in a shape to be used as weapons.  This is why there are conflicting reports on whether or not WMDs have been founf in Iraq.  The answer is really both yes and no. 
 
Sorry that I cannot help more. 


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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 5/12/2010 9:21:42 PM   
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thompsonx: Tell me are you this way with the gunny or the lt when they tell you it is time to bathe?

This statement makes me doubt that you've ever served, as you've insinuated in this thread. WE DON'T HAVE GUNNERY SERGEANTS IN THE ARMY DUMBASS!

I was never in the army.


Also, you're talking about the infantry, one of the dirtiest job positions in the Army.

Usually motor t is the dirtier job

You weren't in Vietnam, weren't you?

You are so cute when you are busy being ignorant


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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 5/12/2010 9:33:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		What I see is someone who needs to be reported for having an open mouth.

If I were you, I would be keeping my mouth shut and not tell any tales.

I might not have my clearance anymore, but then I keep the secrets quiet.  I have never mention my time in the army and that is because I felt it was my duty not to mention anything.

Hell, my brother was in Iraq as a contractor.  Now he is in Afghanistan.  I never ask him about his job.  All I know that it requires a clearance and that we keep our mouths shut.

I think that you are not military.  No soldier will discuss anything about their tour.  You sound like my ex-hubby, pretending that he was a veteran. I took a look of his DD-214 and he did never made it pass basic training.  Heck, one of the regulars is Army and I never ask him about his tour.

As my father, the naval hospital corpsman would say...loose lips sinks ships.  He never talked about his time in the Navy. If you get caught, you can be facing an article 15 at the very least.





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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 5/12/2010 10:06:57 PM   
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All these side arguments. OK they had WMDS. They could not attack the US. Russia can, so how about we go in there and take their toys away ?

Nobody wants to hear the real reason behind this war. Or was that another police action ?

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 5/12/2010 10:29:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ShaharThorne

What I see is someone who needs to be reported for having an open mouth.

In my country I may say what I choose.
If you were in the military didnt you swear an oath to protect my right to speak my thoughts?
What have I said that you feel should be censored?

If I were you, I would be keeping my mouth shut and not tell any tales.

Andjust which tails have I told?


I might not have my clearance anymore, but then I keep the secrets quiet.  I have never mention my time in the army and that is because I felt it was my duty not to mention anything.


Opinions are like assholes...everyone has one and most everyone feels that their's works best for them.

Hell, my brother was in Iraq as a contractor.  Now he is in Afghanistan.  I never ask him about his job.  All I know that it requires a clearance and that we keep our mouths shut.


You do know that a clearance is no big deal...mine was ts.


I think that you are not military.

I am a civilian and have been for more than 40 year.


  No soldier will discuss anything about their tour.

I was never a soldier....never wanted to be...


  You sound like my ex-hubby, pretending that he was a veteran. I took a look of his DD-214 and he did never made it pass basic training.  Heck, one of the regulars is Army and I never ask him about his tour.

As my father, the naval hospital corpsman would say...loose lips sinks ships.  He never talked about his time in the Navy. If you get caught, you can be facing an article 15 at the very least.

One does not get njp for talking about ones military experience.







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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 5/13/2010 1:21:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: herfacechair


REPEAT POINT
I've already thanked you for your service to the Earthrealm, what more do you want?

Is Mom making brownies tonight?

REPEAT POINT

Are you willing to place a bet on that? I am... see the challenge, bold red, earlier in this thread, that I've placed to any Lather that doubts my statements about my service and where I've deployed to.

I've never played Mortal Combat.


I bet she's making meatloaf and a nice apple pie for dessert.





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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 5/13/2010 2:09:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		It was not directed at you, Thompsonx, but the OP.

Hell, I still have nightmares from my time in the service.  I don't know why, but I do.


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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 5/13/2010 4:18:09 AM   
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The thing I was pondering when I was discussing this thread with the guy sleeping in the room kind of behind me.........one of the people I know for a fact did spend time in Iraq. Why does the OP care what a bunch of strangers on the net think about him, his experience...whatever the hell it is, and his tweaked opinions? I don't care if ANYone on here believes, or even gives a damn, about my family's military 'experience'. What they saw, experienced, believe about their experiences....have no real affect on anyone here. It is stuff WE, the family and friends circles, deal with. I am the one with the memory of talking to GD on the phone when there was a sudden round of big booms and an "oh shit Lee......just a sec" followed by the clink of the phone and more booms. Several heart pounding moments later I finally heard the voice I was anxious to hear, and the conversation was continued. Then I went to work... SO MANY American families have stories like that, and far FAR TOO MANY have much worse stories. Empty chairs around their dinner tables.

Regardless of political beliefs, war sucks. I was against the US going to Iraq even when it was very uncool in my little circle. I am still against it. And the part the OP doesn't get, that doesn't make me a far left liberal. It makes me human.

I know it is human nature for someone like the OP to think his experience, whatever that is, is somehow more valid than anyone else. Especially anyone that could possibly be sitting in front of a computer screen typing about it. The irony is, he expects us to take HIS word for it and validate his experience, while he refuses to believe anyone else's words and types frenetically, madly, seeking to invalidate anyone that dares to discuss. It is an amusing study in human nature and he is too easy a puppet. Yet I have to thank him as he did give me food for thought. Not about Iraq or politics but in my ongoing study in human nature. The sad part is his profile says he is 40, too old to be so insecure and unstable. It is that instability that concerns me, for the wellbeing of those around him, family, and if indeed he is in the military, the people that are serving along side him. The boy is wound just a bit too tight. Perhaps some post tramatic stress......who knows.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 5/13/2010 4:59:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		This statement makes me doubt that you've ever served, as you've insinuated in this thread. WE DON'T HAVE GUNNERY SERGEANTS IN THE ARMY DUMBASS!

I was never in the army.

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I don't know who said this to huntie, because he takes out the name when he quotes (which he probably does manually not being of the computer generation), but whoever the fuck said this (and later talked like they may have been infantry) if in the army at all or in the military is no more than a cook, or didn't complete basic, was given the bums rush and a kick for being less than ignorant.  A gunny is the same as a SFC.

Christ, if you couldn't have picked that up from TV let alone you have to know ranks in all the branches, who to salute and who to call Top and who to call Sergeant Major and who to call Mr and who to call sir, and who you can tell to kiss your ass, than they were released at the convienience of the government because people without the brains of a fucking ice cube slots are way over TOE up in there now.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 5/13/2010 5:02:37 AM   
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I'd be fucking, eating the best food, fucking, drinking, fucking, enjoying all of my family and friends, fucking, relaxing, fucking....

Just sayin

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 5/13/2010 5:12:54 AM   
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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 5/13/2010 5:51:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Aileen has a point there.  If I was on leave, I would be with my family, cherishing every moment.  Drinking a few cold beers. Dating a few good men...(pun intended).  I would not be on a message board, doing a "positive need to know".  Especially if I had a security clearance...

That is why I stated that I know when to talk and when to STFU.


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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 5/13/2010 6:03:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, the thing is he is pushing a one-way ideology.   When asked honest and straightforward questions, instead of providing examples, he pushes one-way ideology.

quick one for ya huntie, so this guy has an R&R at his half way, must be a 15 month deploy now.  the US ARMY all expenses paid, trots his ass all the way back to the states.  Now, when the suck forced you to take R&R from that little dust up out east, couldn't you have just about walked to the R&R disneyland, did you do hawaii?   So, the question then, when did the government becomes so generous, or did we get fucked? or are we being fuckin hosed here?





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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 5/13/2010 6:49:00 AM   
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It was not directed at you, Thompsonx, but the OP.

Hell, I still have nightmares from my time in the service.  I don't know why, but I do.




Me too.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 5/13/2010 6:57:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

If I was actually on leave for a short period of time from Iraq, I wouldn't be wasting my time making long winded, stupid posts on a message board.
I'd be fucking, eating the best food, fucking, drinking, fucking, enjoying all of my family and friends, fucking, relaxing, fucking....

Just sayin


When are you due for R&R?

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 5/13/2010 7:03:36 AM   
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Well, the thing is he is pushing a one-way ideology.   When asked honest and straightforward questions, instead of providing examples, he pushes one-way ideology.

quick one for ya huntie, so this guy has an R&R at his half way, must be a 15 month deploy now.  the US ARMY all expenses paid, trots his ass all the way back to the states.  Now, when the suck forced you to take R&R from that little dust up out east, couldn't you have just about walked to the R&R disneyland, did you do hawaii?   So, the question then, when did the government becomes so generous, or did we get fucked? or are we being fuckin hosed here?

I got one five day R&R in 23 months.
It took me almost a week to recover from five days in manilla.
You know the rules for getting fucked...
Try to get comfortable...
and
Don't forget to breath.






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