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herfacechair -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (7/15/2010 5:12:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL:  Mouth Farts

Did they kick him out?


If I were like you, and lacked a brain, the answer to that would've been yes. But I'm still in.

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ORIGINAL:  Mouth Farts

PS - angelika is one of the most straight-forward folks here, no matter what Lungs says.


A straightforward person would give an assessment that's free of bias. This person would be willing to accept a straightforward challenge, instead of getting all defensive about my zeroing in on one thing that she said. A straightforward person wouldn't even try to equate her birth in an Army hospital with real military experience when it comes to spotting posers on this thread. A straightforward person would've been willing to make the same "doubt" statement to both sides of the argument, not just one side.



pahunkboy -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (7/15/2010 5:13:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: herfacechair

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ORIGINAL:  angelikaJ

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ORIGINAL:  DarlingSavage

How long is the OP's "short break" from Iraq?  This thread was started on 5/5/2010.  Last I checked, a short break was something like a few days.  2 weeks tops.  The OP sounded as though they would only be available for answering questions within a very short time frame, after which he would be unavailable for comment.  Well, it has now been over 2 months and the OP is still here arguing with people.  What's up with that?  It kind of looks suspicious.


He was here, he left and for whatever reason after a short time he came back and is home for good as I understand it.


From earlier in this thread, in reply to Lady Pact

"My unit was originally scheduled to redeploy back to the United States before September 1, 2010. They scheduled the last leave block for the last half of May. See my leave R & R in that context, that R & R was available under the assumption that we were going to be in country for another 3 months." -herfacechair

"Now, our deployment ran into factors, like treaty requirements, as well as mission accomplishment/conditions on the ground, etc. It all worked out to where we turned our area of operations over to the Iraqis early. Our success basically "placed us out of a job." On the other side of the coin, there's precedence where units got their deployments extended. There were talks about moving us to another AO." - herfacechair

"So what do you do to the leave periods that are no longer months away from redeployment, but now less than 2 months? Those soldiers could be told, "nope, sorry, you're within the X month window to redeployment, so you're not going on leave!" Just to have the deployment extended." -herfacechair

"Allowing people to go on R and R as if we were going to redeploy right b before September 1 guarded against that scenario. Heck, we had one guy in our battalion come back from R and R... 7 days before our scheduled redeployment." -herfacechair



You are serving Goldman Sachs.



LadyPact -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (7/15/2010 5:14:24 PM)

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Anyway, what really brought Me back to the thread was the picture idea.  Unfortunately, My email is a mess, but I have shots from clip's last tour, if folks are interested.  No body shots, but some really interesting costumes and jewelery from Afghanistan.



SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (7/15/2010 5:14:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
9-11 is not what you think it is.

Sure it is..it's a car designed by German engineers that think the height of elegance is elongating a Beetle.

No imagination the Germans; design one car and vary the length by adding an extra middle part.



Jeffff -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (7/15/2010 5:16:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

[sm=shame.gif]

Anyway, what really brought Me back to the thread was the picture idea.  Unfortunately, My email is a mess, but I have shots from clip's last tour, if folks are interested.  No body shots, but some really interesting costumes and jewelery from Afghanistan.




Ya know LP, if it was Clip saying this stuff, I would believe him.

Then again if it was Clip, it wouldn't be so full of nonsense



herfacechair -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (7/15/2010 5:17:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL:  pahunkboy

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ORIGINAL:  angelikaJ


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ORIGINAL:  DarlingSavage

How long is the OP's "short break" from Iraq?  This thread was started on 5/5/2010.  Last I checked, a short break was something like a few days.  2 weeks tops.  The OP sounded as though they would only be available for answering questions within a very short time frame, after which he would be unavailable for comment.  Well, it has now been over 2 months and the OP is still here arguing with people.  What's up with that?  It kind of looks suspicious.


He was here, he left and for whatever reason after a short time he came back and is home for good as I understand it.



IMO he is as he claims.

I see no reason to doubt that.



Now THAT'S straightforward.



herfacechair -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (7/15/2010 5:19:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL:  DarlingSavage

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He was here, he left and for whatever reason after a short time he came back and is home for good as I understand it.


Uh-huh... Back to looking suspect then.

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IMO   he is as he claims.

I see no reason to doubt that.


I think you're a sweetie, but I don't always trust your judgment.


This shows that you'd rather be ignorant of what's really going on... than to get off your ass to do some research, in this case reading through the entire thread. Anybody with critical thinking abilities wouldn't trust your judgment if you're going to go off emotional bias rather than cold hard facts... facts you could easily go after to satisfy your "suspicion." The REAL reason you're refusing to go through the entire thread to find out why I'm here is that you're one of the opposition. You disagree with what I'm arguing, but instead of arguing with me head on, you put on the false "persona" of a "neutral" reader just to be another detractor.



herfacechair -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (7/15/2010 5:20:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL:  pahunkboy

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ORIGINAL:  DarlingSavage

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He was here, he left and for whatever reason after a short time he came back and is home for good as I understand it.


Uh-huh...  Back to looking suspect then.

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IMO   he is as he claims.

I see no reason to doubt that.


I think you're a sweetie, but I don't always trust your judgment.



Then you missed my post saying he was a paid govt writer. Hehe



This is where your judgment would rightfully be questioned. I've repeatedly pointed out to you that the government doesn't pay me to write. Your reasoning amounts to inductive fallacy, and is like accusing everybody that posts here as being "paid" writers for their employers.



herfacechair -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (7/15/2010 5:22:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DarlingSavage

You know I didn't read the whole thread.  You were just trying to trick me!  I have to warn you, though, that endeavor is not exactly challenging!  


There's something seriously wrong with you if someone would have to "trick" you into doing something responsible... like actually knowing what's going on before commenting on a topic. If the endeavor isn't exactly challenging, then reading this thread should be something you'd be able to do... before you shove your foot far enough down your throat to be close to crapping it out.



SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (7/15/2010 5:22:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
You are serving Goldman Sachs.

I think you are underestimating the employees of Goldman Sachs; you don't serve anyone by having shit for brains.



herfacechair -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (7/15/2010 5:23:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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ORIGINAL: Level

Can you imagine how fast people in real life run from the OP?

"Oh fuck, here comes "Lungs"! He never shuts up!"


Oh honey with all the talking he does I am sure they don't have to run too fast.


Your statement is as phony as your stories about your "friends" in the military.



LadyPact -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (7/15/2010 5:25:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: herfacechair
A straightforward person wouldn't even try to equate her birth in an Army hospital with real military experience when it comes to spotting posers on this thread.

Are you inferring even for a moment that military families don't have to take their fair share of the war experience?  Just because we're not in the desert, doesn't mean we don't take on our part in all of this.



pahunkboy -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (7/15/2010 5:25:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
You are serving Goldman Sachs.

I think you are underestimating the employees of Goldman Sachs; you don't serve anyone by having shit for brains.




I dont think the OP is brainless.  I think the big corporations are using him.



LadyPact -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (7/15/2010 5:27:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff
Ya know LP, if it was Clip saying this stuff, I would believe him.

Then again if it was Clip, it wouldn't be so full of nonsense

I know, Jeffff, and we've always felt supported here.  I don't want the impression that we weren't to come across from that.



angelikaJ -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (7/15/2010 5:28:25 PM)

angelikaJ: And guess what? I was born in an army hospital in 1962.

Being born in an Army hospital in 1962 doesn't give you the same experience that someone that, say, went through basic training, to AIT, then to their permanent unit, would experience. Already, you've lost credibility with your insinuations as to whether you could spot a poser or not.

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Why would I have been born in an army hospital in 1962?

It wasn't because my parent's car broke down right in front of it or because that was where the stork dropped them off that day.

Do you think it was possible that THE reason I was born in an army hospital then was because my dad was in the army?
So, now you know two things: that since my dad was in the army that meant he went through basic training etc. Also, you might figure out by the date that he was a Vietnam Era vet.

At the moment, this is all I am going to reply to. I have stuff to do and I wish to take my time for the rest.

edit: because I felt like it.



Jeffff -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (7/15/2010 5:28:55 PM)

And I don't want to seem to be disparaging anything other than one single knucklhead poster.



LadyPact -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (7/15/2010 5:32:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

And I don't want to seem to be disparaging anything other than one single knucklhead poster.

Nah.  I don't feel that way at all.  [:)]



Jeffff -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (7/15/2010 5:33:02 PM)

Cool!



LaTigresse -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (7/16/2010 7:12:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: herfacechair

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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ORIGINAL: Level

Can you imagine how fast people in real life run from the OP?

"Oh fuck, here comes "Lungs"! He never shuts up!"


Oh honey with all the talking he does I am sure they don't have to run too fast.


Your statement is as phony as your stories about your "friends" in the military.


Well sugar lips, if I bothered caring what you believe about the people in my life I would bother taking a photo of myself with the bronze star the other person I share my abode with, was awarded. Or the sword his soldiers gave him when he retired, orrrrrrrrrrrrrr the flag in the triangular case he was given........or any number of other things that are scattered about my home or locked into the safe.

But you see, I seriously do not care whether or not you believe me. The joy of this is that you so obviously do care whether or not we believe you.

Yeah, I am a sadistic bitch that way![:D]



angelikaJ -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (7/16/2010 7:56:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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ORIGINAL: herfacechair


Your statement is as phony as your stories about your "friends" in the military.


Well sugar lips, if I bothered caring what you believe about the people in my life I would bother taking a photo of myself with the bronze star the other person I share my abode with, was awarded. Or the sword his soldiers gave him when he retired, orrrrrrrrrrrrrr the flag in the triangular case he was given........or any number of other things that are scattered about my home or locked into the safe.

But you see, I seriously do not care whether or not you believe me. The joy of this is that you so obviously do care whether or not we believe you.




First, to address this: you really do not have any comprehension how much damage you do to your credibility by making statements such as that to honest people.

If you just stopped with all the personal attacks and stuck to your experiences, people might actually listen to what you had to say.
(And please do not give me any variant of "but they started it" as an excuse. We are all responsible for our own behaviors regardless of what anyone else ever does.)

As for our discussion, you claim if I haven't served I can't possibly have any knowledge of what you are talking about.

"This is one of the biggest things that argue against your supposed claim to be able to spot a poser. Because, if you knew how those of us in the military truly behaved, you wouldn't see my response to you as being strange."

You know that my dad was in the military, and that I volunteered at a veteran's domiciliary. I have a number of friends who served and my current Master did as well. And you assert I don't know how people in the military behave?

But that is neither here nor there.

My original post was quite simple. It did not accuse you of anything. It expressed admiration and affection for the people I knew from my volunteering.
It reminded you that your wartime experience did not make you unique and gave another example of why we should not be hasty in choosing to go to war... and it expressed my opinion that if by chance you did fabricate, I thought that was shameful. Again, it was not an accusation.

As for the other people you took issue at my not addressing, my post wasn't directed at them for specific reasons. I already have my opinions as to who is and is not credible.

I am not sure about you.
Your personal attacks and accusations do nothing to help your case with me but hey, if the person you talk with is credible, it will be interesting to listen to what s/he has to say.

I am not going to respond to any kind of attack from you. I will not engage that way. That is not debating, it is bullying.

Best wishes in finding whatever it is you are looking for. I wish you peace.

edit: typo



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