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herfacechair -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (7/15/2010 4:55:41 PM)
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angelikaJ: I find it very, very interesting that you seemed to miss my entire point and focused on one sentence instead.
Obviously, you don't know my mode of operation when I carry debates out. I read your entire post, and even watched the video that you linked to. I'm going to focus on the parts of your posts that I deem need the most focusing on. Any intelligent person would notice that I'll address the parts of people's posts that I DISAGREE with. Since you're "big" on "perfection," you should've picked up on that. Stay with me, logic dictates that if I focus on what I disagree with, there might be a chance that I won't address what I don't care about, with what I'm neutral with, or with what I agree with.
HENCE, my addressing "that one" part of the post while not mentioning the rest.
What I said still stands, I've seen numerous posters, over the past few years, come out acting the way you act, pretending to be neutral, when they end up giving hints as to who they're really supporting.
However, to prove to you that I read everything the opposition says, I'm going to dismantle your comments.
angelikaJ: As for mnottertail, and thompsonx, it was an entirely different kind of war.
That's beside the point. A Vietnam Veteran raised me, and I had a chance to meet his Vietnam Veteran friends. We may have served in different time periods, and different theaters, but one major trend remains. We could relate to each other, and we think alike most the time. The posers mnottertail and thompsonx don't come anywhere near them in experience, or statements, nor do they come anywhere near the military when it comes to expressing their outrageous stories.
Their stories are clearly made up. They had an opportunity to serve in Vietnam, but they didn't for one reason or another. Now here they are, on this thread, acting like they deployed there. They're the ones that deserved this comment:
"I will say this: if your tales are just that... tales belonging to other people or things entirely made up, then you should be wholly ashamed of yourself...The sacrifices made by the people who lived at the domiciliary are not to be mocked or diminished by anyone's deceptions." -- angelikaJ
It's people like those two, and others that I caught on this thread, that deserve that comment. Not me, I've challenged people, offered to prove that I am who I say I am, and I did what I say I did.
angelikaJ: And guess what? I was born in an army hospital in 1962.
Being born in an Army hospital in 1962 doesn't give you the same experience that someone that, say, went through basic training, to AIT, then to their permanent unit, would experience. Already, you've lost credibility with your insinuations as to whether you could spot a poser or not.
angelikaJ: If they fabricated, I likely would have called them on it and you might not know... I do have over 3000 posts... and also have a habit of sending personal cmails if I have something substantial to say.
Call them on it with what? The experience you gained when an Army doctor smacked your ass when you were born? The fact of the matter is that you didn't call them out on this thread. To anybody that has served, their stories, as well as those of the other posters here who are posers, don't jive with what we know of someone that actually has served in the military.
In order to be able to spot a poser on this thread, to spot someone here claiming to be in the military but they're not, you have to have actual military experience. There's a way, just by talking to people, and listening to them speak, to know whether they're in the military or not. Actually having military experience helps in that end. Nowhere in your post do you claim that you served, or if you did, it wouldn't appear that you served a good length of time. I'm sorry, but your time in an Army hospital, or as an Army brat, doesn't give you the military experience you'd get if you were to actually be in the military. I've been both a military dependent, and someone in the military; they're two different worlds.
angelikaJ: You accuse me of having doubts ... and ironically it is your behavior that suggests them to me.
This is one of the biggest things that argue against your supposed claim to be able to spot a poser. Because, if you knew how those of us in the military truly behaved, you wouldn't see my response to you as being strange. In real life, we're much "worse" than what I am here when dealing with people trying to put an act on us, the way you're doing here.
You should hear what other people in the military, in all branches, say about people believing, and arguing, the same things about the opposition argue.
angelikaJ: I am someone who does not follow the crowd and needs to make up her own mind about things; about people.
Your actions here are consistent with what the opposition is doing. You have obvious posers, mnottertail/thompsonx, who you've continuously given a free pass to. You've even tried to come up with an excuse for them... "that was a different war." Never mind, for instance, that there's one thread that's consistent in the military throughout all this time. You're willing to say, "what if what they say is true" with regards to me, but nothing about the faker's claims.
Like I've said, I've debated perpetually for years, and I've came across people like you who try to sound "neutral," who're actually siding with the opposition.
angelikaJ:But in what you quoted there was only one sentence you seemed to read.
WRONG, I read the whole thing. That was the one sentence that I FOCUSED my response to. It's the way I do things. Whenever I get a post that "acts" like it's "on my side," or "neutral," I go through it and, the moment I see an attack, I'm going to treat the whole thing as an attack.
angelikaJ: I was quite ready to give you the benefit of the doubt until I had read, researched and came to my own conclusions... and now I am not so sure... it seems as though you doth protest too much.
Did you say, researched? Well lucky you! I'm going to be meeting someone that's also a collarchat poster. I'm going to show her my cac card (ID Card), My ERB, as well as our platoon "year book," that shows photos of me in Iraq. If you're the type that does her research before coming to conclusions, you'd definitely wait to see what this poster has to say before you "doubt" my statements, as you're willing to do. Since you "do" your "research," you'd follow the fact trail, not your emotions.
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