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RE: Definition of "Gay" - 4/7/2006 12:48:00 AM

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Thank You ever so kindly Arpig purrs

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RE: Definition of "Gay" - 4/7/2006 12:57:45 AM

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as far as being bisexual, I am a firm believer that everybody is, it is just a question of degrees...

Just out of curiosity, how do you come by such a belief? Although bisexual myself, I would still argue that I don't think 'everyone' is bisexual to some degree because I know too many who are hardcore het or gay.

This was to Arpig, but I'd welcome an answer from any who feels this way, cuz I don't get it. Universal's are so seldom true especially when they deal with humans and sexuality.

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I actually took a psych class in which this was discussed...There are the two extremes Completely hetero and completely homosexuals. Then there are every conceivable variation therein. Being extreme on one hand or the other does exist but is very slight statistically. I wish i had the technology to show the graph professor used in class about it. He remarked that while being completely straight and completely gay does exist the exclusivity of such a state is rare however in that the majority have fantasied on various levels and have participated in various levels of bisexuality....It was also noted in the same class that it is more common for females to have experience a bisexual encounters than males especially during puberty. That this does not however mean that the person will grow further in bisexuality but rather experiements in it during that time of development are more commonplace occurances

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RE: Definition of "Gay" - 4/7/2006 7:02:45 AM

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He remarked that while being completely straight and completely gay does exist the exclusivity of such a state is rare however in that the majority have fantasied on various levels and have participated in various levels of bisexuality

I must be in the minority then because I have never fantasized about being sexually intimate with another women in any way.
I do know the arguement that was used in this class though, I debated it with a professor; we both ended it with an agreement to disagree since both sides could be adequately supported with facts and information.

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RE: Definition of "Gay" - 4/7/2006 7:17:55 AM

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RE: Definition of "Gay" - 4/7/2006 7:27:03 AM

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I think anybody can be however they want to and not need to put a label on it... so you like a little T&A, I don't know anyone who doesn't, isn't it okay to just like boobs without having to put a name on it?

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RE: Definition of "Gay" - 4/7/2006 11:00:47 AM

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I think anybody can be however they want to and not need to put a label on it... so you like a little T&A, I don't know anyone who doesn't, isn't it okay to just like boobs without having to put a name on it?

I simply asked Arpig why he has determined that the 6 billion + people on the planet are all bisexual to one degree or another. I don't see the point of your post.

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RE: Definition of "Gay" - 4/7/2006 11:21:12 AM

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There is just such a beautiful and sensual grace about it that the male body lacks...but there is just something so much more sexual to me about the female body...This worries me somewhat though because I'm almost afraid I'll end up gay, even though part of me knows that won't ever happen. Am I making sense here at all?

if you have already decided that the "male body" lacks beauty and sensual grace and that the female body is more sexually appealing to you, you don't have to worry about "ending up" gay. homosexuality has a LOT to do with being attracted to and finding sexual pleasure in the same sex as yourself. this slave believes whole heartedly there is nothing wrong with it. if you happen to be drawn to both sexes on a sexual level, it seems to this slave that would infer bi-sexuality, but still doesn't negate the homosexuality of attraction to and pleasure from sexual fantasies or encounters with the same sex as yourself.

note to Arpig: in case you haven't ever met a female who has never been turned on by or sexually attracted to another female, even after having intimate sexual relations with another female, please allow this slave to introduce herself~this completely heterosexually oriented slave's name is beth.

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RE: Definition of "Gay" - 4/7/2006 2:06:58 PM

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I also find, and have since childhood, the body of women to be far more lovely than that of men. Men rarely can turn me on by their physical appearance. Men have their charms and are not what I would classify as "beautiful" physically. It is hard to compete with the the sensual breeze that is woman.

I am a Domme in a 24/7 with a MAN. A handsome, fascinating, totally masculine man. I might crave the sight of women, the touch, the smell of them, but I have no desire to have a relationship with them.

I am one... I know what we're capable of. *smirks*

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RE: Definition of "Gay" - 4/8/2006 2:06:59 PM

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I think it is difficult for lots of people to clearly define their sexuality, there are people who can say 100% that they are gay, straight or bi. I don’t think that because someone does not have a clearly defined sexuality that they should be classed as being bi since that is a clearly defined role, favouring male and female equally.

I don’t think a persons sexuality matters and accurately classifying it could be impossible for some people. I think it is good for people to just accept what they are and what they feel, I don’t think trying to fit what you feel into a specific box is very beneficial especially if it will not fit.

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RE: Definition of "Gay" - 4/8/2006 2:14:58 PM

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I knew that would get a rise out of a few

(no pun intended)

Imagine what its doing to those in chastity!

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RE: Definition of "Gay" - 4/8/2006 6:45:31 PM

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In past years, I have been finding myself becoming obsessed with female body. There is just such a beautiful and sensual grace about it that the male body lacks. I would never want to be exclusively dating or with a woman because I enjoy too many things about males, but there is just something so much more sexual to me about the female body. For some time I have been wanting to experience being with another girl, just to see what it is like, but I haven't been able to. This worries me somewhat though because I'm almost afraid I'll end up gay, even though part of me knows that won't ever happen. Am I making sense here at all?

There is just something so wonderful about the female body that it gets me crazy just thinking about it. I have recently decided I am bi sexual, but my obsession with women is starting to get almost obsessive.

I talked to my dom about all this many times, and he wants me to experiment with a girl, as long as it is someone he approves, and that he can set all the rules ect for it. The problem is also finding someone who would do this.

Hard to find? Are you kidding me? Give me a break......

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RE: Definition of "Gay" - 4/8/2006 7:42:49 PM

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Oh, I'm obsessed with the beauty of anyone who looks fantastic, no matter what sex they are. I can appreciate beauty for beauties sake. It's more like watching art in motion. A man or a woman looking great is just going to get my attention, their movements, how great their rear looks in those pants, etc. It's not that I'm turned on or anything I would have the same appreciation in watching a great ballet, non sexual. If it would ever happen that one or the other of those fantastic looking people I had been admiring were to hit on me and both had great personalities, I'd tell the woman I was straight and appreciate the attention. If the guy hit on me, well...I'd be dragging him to my bed and calcuating how long I'd get to keep him there before we both actually needed to see daylight again.
I personally have no desire to touch a female in a sexual manner.

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RE: Definition of "Gay" - 4/8/2006 8:54:43 PM

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Hi Sweet, (I cannot believe I did not read this OP sooner!)

I am definitely bisexual. Let me explain...Until I was 29 w/men LTR's, 29-38 w/ women only LTR's. At 38, I realized that I'm bisexual b/c of physical urges to be w/ both sexes and the emotional comforts from both sexes.

For Me, being bisexual is not about the organs one posesses, it's about the person within. That 'is' bisexuality. I do lean definitely more towards men though more so than women but that in no way changes my bisexual identification. If I met a woman that totally engulfed me mentally and physically I would seek the relationship further. As I have in the past.

In the Gay Community, bisexuals are frowned upon. They want you to 'choose' a side. Bisexuals cannot do that. I see the beauty in a person, not the gender.

Re: OP Please never think you will 'turn' gay or bisexual. It's who you are that will either be gay, str8 or bisexual. No one or No experience can 'turn' you gay or bisexual.

I do recommend you find out prior to your marriage and that can take more than just a physical experience to tell you, meaning really being w/ a woman, LTR wise! No matter how excepting your fiance may be, honestly how 'nice' and excepting will he be if you were gay or bisexual and no longer 'wanted' him? Find out now, put marriage on a back burner for a bit until you know for sure. If I took my own advise, I never would have been married at 23 only to be divorced and questioning my sexual identity at 26.

It took a long time to discover me! At 40, I'm still learning about ME! If you want to talk off forum, feel free to write! I will be there if you want to talk!

Just a little funny...I cannot believe you can't find a Willing play partner! There everywhere...especially on www.bisexualplayground.com !!! I met several great men and women there over the last few years, good ppl and some jerks, just doing your weeding, LOL.

Good Luck and Best Wishes.

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RE: Definition of "Gay" - 4/8/2006 10:41:43 PM

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I'm bisexual and yes I think women are alot more beautiful and sexier than males. However I do find my current sub extremely sexy and very easy on the eyes, besides the fact that I love him with all my heart. I say YOU find a woman you are attracted too and decide how to proceed if things should work out. I don't think your Dom should really have a say as your in the very beginning stages and you need to find your own way. Also some women would be put off if you say "I have to ask my Dom if your ok" But if you have to go that route you might want to look for another sub/slave who's bi curious and see what you can work out.

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