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RE: Black only field trip approved by Principal - 5/7/2010 6:07:25 AM

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Racism is wrong, period. The principal should be fired but it is ok for a black to be a bigot. Nothing will happen to him.

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RE: Black only field trip approved by Principal - 5/7/2010 6:10:54 AM

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Really...... how about that nice Obama pic you had up.

you're a douche

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RE: Black only field trip approved by Principal - 5/7/2010 6:14:46 AM

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Racism is wrong, period. The principal should be fired but it is ok for a black to be a bigot. Nothing will happen to him.

Not once has anyone associated with this story labeled him a bigot or a racist. I believe his intentions were honorable, even the district and parents agree.

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RE: Black only field trip approved by Principal - 5/7/2010 6:15:33 AM

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Obviously, servant didn't read the article

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RE: Black only field trip approved by Principal - 5/7/2010 6:16:17 AM

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The legality of the situation is that no public institution in Michigan may promote, host, sponsor, or participate in any program or event that violates the Michigan Civil right Initiative (Proposal 2 of the Michigan Constitution). Reading parental comments, the principles' tirade occurred a whole 24 hours after the students returned from the trip and any possible student confrontation had happened.

The principle very specifically broke a law in the state of Michigan meant to protect people from discrimination. Because of that reason alone, he should be fired. It is the duty of our educators to set the daily example of upstanding, law-abiding citizens for this country's future. This is a pretty major offense.

You can find the exact verbage of the proposal at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_Civil_Rights_Initiative

The initiative does not address funding as the qualifier for establishing "the state".

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RE: Black only field trip approved by Principal - 5/7/2010 6:20:57 AM

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I think the fact that this was a specific group, instead of a set of handpicked students from each class, is the deciding factor. It shall be interesting to see how that is viewed in light of the law.

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RE: Black only field trip approved by Principal - 5/7/2010 6:33:59 AM

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While I think that it would be inspiring for young men and women of colour to see and interact with very successful men and women of colour, I would wanna see these folks myself, and race wouldn't enter into it.

Neil deGrasse Tyson---imagine if YDB went and got to see him, and I didnt? That guy is one of my fuckin heros. I'd be pisseder than if I didn't get to see and visit with MadDogVachon when I flew with him from Omaha to Minneapolis.

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RE: Black only field trip approved by Principal - 5/7/2010 6:40:13 AM

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Exactly, Master Ron. Thats why i sorta understand these 5th graders reactions when the students who got to go returned. This would have been better handled by having this man come to the school.

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RE: Black only field trip approved by Principal - 5/7/2010 8:35:22 AM

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I think the whole thing is pretty fucked up. All it is going to do is feed racism. Should be interesting to see how it plays out.

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RE: Black only field trip approved by Principal - 5/7/2010 8:38:53 AM

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Sadly, i agree. However, i think the motive behind it all was honorable, which is why this Principal has not been fired yet. Again, not one parent has pointed towards racism here.

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RE: Black only field trip approved by Principal - 5/7/2010 8:43:53 AM

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I mean really, when you look at it, what do the white kids have to be jealous of? The black kids got this field trip because they're severely underperforming the white kids and people think they need a special fucking outreach to be able to succeed. These kids basically got told "Hey we want to show you that black people can be scientists so you don't end up a retarded rapper or athlete like we expect you to."

So what did they do for the white kids who are severely under-performing? Are you implying that the only under achievers at this school are black? Do you honestly believe that it would not help any child to see what they can achieve in life? Why would you expect a black child to grow up and become a retarded rapper or athlete? Ever hear of emmenem? He could have used a trip to see the rocket scientist. Maybe his whole life would have been different.

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RE: Black only field trip approved by Principal - 5/7/2010 8:47:16 AM

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This man should be fired. Immediately.

If this were the other way around - only white students allowed to go see a white man speak, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. He would already be filing for unemployment.

PPtk

You make a valid point.

A black principal sends a group of black students to meet a black scientist and says he did so to give an advantage to this particular group of students.

Change all the black to white in that previous statement and what would happen?

It would be just another day at Lake Forest High School.

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RE: Black only field trip approved by Principal - 5/7/2010 8:50:43 AM

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Racism is wrong, period. The principal should be fired but it is ok for a black to be a bigot. Nothing will happen to him.

Why did you remove your photo of Obama?.....Jackass Coward!

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RE: Black only field trip approved by Principal - 5/7/2010 9:35:20 AM

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This man should be fired. Immediately.

If this were the other way around - only white students allowed to go see a white man speak, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. He would already be filing for unemployment.

PPtk

You make a valid point.

A black principal sends a group of black students to meet a black scientist and says he did so to give an advantage to this particular group of students.

Change all the black to white in that previous statement and what would happen?

It would be just another day at Lake Forest High School.

The NAACP, the ACLU and a half dozen private lawyers would be suing the hell out of the school district. Thats what would have happened.

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RE: Black only field trip approved by Principal - 5/7/2010 9:44:48 AM

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And there would be no question on if the principle would be fired....hell, he might have been lynched before they could give him his pink slip.

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RE: Black only field trip approved by Principal - 5/7/2010 9:52:06 AM

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And yet im hesitant to string up this man. as i have said, i do believe his decision was based upon good intentions. too bad he didnt seek out the districts help when making such a decision.

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RE: Black only field trip approved by Principal - 5/7/2010 9:53:33 AM

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It would depend on if there are any black students in these high schools wouldn't it?

I agree that it was not very well thought out. There should be some ramifications. I hope the guy doesn't get the boot.

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RE: Black only field trip approved by Principal - 5/7/2010 9:58:04 AM

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This was an elementary school, Domiguy. Are you, perhaps, mixing up your threads?

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RE: Black only field trip approved by Principal - 5/7/2010 10:03:36 AM

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Nah, there are still plenty of very good schools across this nation where the only of person of color within their walls is the janitor.

As we fall deeper into decay and as the aspirations of blacks increase we are seeing more mixed schools develop. Thank God for the decay.

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RE: Black only field trip approved by Principal - 5/7/2010 10:12:55 AM

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Are you saying that white, latino and asian students would not have benefited from meeting such a man as this esteemed scientist? Because, at the risk of sounding racist to some (and on that note, i could care less what they believe) i do believe these other students would have benefited from the experience, if for no other reason than to have it up close and personal that a black man can become anything he works hard to become. There is too much of a prevelence in the belief among the young that black men can aspire to be sports heros, actors, rappers and politicians, but not much more. A very wrong perception. One every student would be best to have pushed aside by the presence of such men as "black University of Michigan scientist"

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