tazzygirl
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Well I am not sure about the rest of the country, but I think the folk in California are scared to death that someone is going to come up with a way to cut back on illegal immigration. They have thousands of workers there, paying into the tax system with out getting anything back because they are illegal. Add that to the fact that these illegals are working below minimum wage in substandard conditions and California has quite a system going on there. It's like they have their own "little China" right in their backyard. So it may look like they are trying to help the poor illegal immigrant, when in reality, they are letting them be taken advantage of for the good of the states economy.
They pay into the tax system and get nothing back? Bullshit.
Note: The following numbers are from 2006. The children of illegal aliens are educated at taxpayer expense ($4 billion/ year for those born outside the US, another $3+ billion for those born here to illegal immigrant parents), they get healthcare (Medi-cal and emergency services run 1.2 billion per year or so), the children of illegal immigrants can qualify for welfare ($500 million per year), and food stamps, $59 million is spent on prenatal care, $108 million for delivery, $47 million for non emergency medical care, long term nursing home care, and abortions. The children of illegals can also, I believe, get in state tuition for universities here no matter their immigration status. Now, not a 'benefit' per say, but another expense- $859 million per year for illegal aliens in our prisons.
Total? Nearly $10 billion per year.
Do many illegal aliens pay taxes? Yup, they do, because they are using fake social security numbers to secure employment. Do they get nothing back? If you call $10 billion nothing, I guess so.
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/feb/02/local/me-cap2
Edited to remove a wayward "l".
I want to point something out. The numbers arent fake, they are actual numbers. This is called identity theft. They work under someone's number. That person never finds out until they are hit with an audit.
DUBLIN, Calif. — Audra Schmierer's Social Security number really gets around. It has been used by at least 81 people in 17 states, most of them probably illegal immigrants trying to get work.
The federal government took years to discover the number was being used illegally, but authorities took little action even then.
"They knew what was happening but wouldn't do anything," said Schmierer, 33, a housewife in this affluent San Francisco suburb. "One name, one number, why can't they just match it up?"
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Schmierer realized she had a problem in February 2005, when she got a statement from the IRS saying she owed $15,813 in back taxes — even though she had not worked since her son was born in 2000.
Perhaps even more surprising, the taxes were due from jobs in Texas.
Schmierer called the IRS and learned that numerous people were using her Social Security number. Officials said the erroneous balances would be eliminated, but the agency would have to correct the problem again in future years.
"They told me they couldn't do anything else," Schmierer said.
IRS officials declined to talk about Schmierer's case, citing privacy laws.
Schmierer has done a little investigating of her own, combing through tax bills sent to her for names and locations of employers who hired people using her number.
She has also obtained more than 200 W-2 and 1099 tax forms that contained her Social Security number but different names. Schmierer provided copies of the records to The Associated Press.
People used her Social Security number from Florida to Washington state, at construction sites, fast-food restaurants and even major high-tech companies. Some opened bank accounts using the number.
Most of the people worked multiple jobs in the same year, though some remained at the same company for several years. The top wage earner made $39,465, but most reported income of less than $15,000.
Though impossible to verify in every case, information gleaned from criminal investigations, tax documents and other sources suggested that most of the users were probably illegal immigrants.
Schmierer filed a police report after learning one man had used her information in 2003 at janitorial and landscaping companies near Haltom City, Texas.
Investigators found the man, who told officers he had bought a fake Social Security card at a flea market, according to a police report. He was not arrested.
Schmierer tracked down other people, finding that her number had been used to get work but not to access her credit card or bank accounts.
What started as a hassle turned into a major headache earlier this year when she sought work through a temporary agency that learned her Social Security number had been used by a woman in Texas two years earlier. The agency could not hire Schmierer for more than a month while the situation was clarified.
"How do you prove that you are you?" Schmierer said. "It's like you are guilty until proven innocent."
While returning from a trip to Mexico with her husband last year, Schmierer was detained for four hours in a Dallas airport by immigration officials. The reason: a woman using her Social Security number was wanted for a felony.
Schmierer never determined how her number became so widely used. Sellers of fake documents often make up numbers and use them repeatedly.
Schmierer's number became so compromised that Social Security officials finally took a rare step used only in extreme cases: They gave her a new one.
Schmierer hopes that will end her frustrations, but she suspects her old number will continue to be misused.
"It's clear to me that because my number has been used for so long, it's not going to stop," she said
This woman, and many people like her, did nothing wrong, but had to pay in time, effort, energy, lost wages.... the list goes on and on... all because someone wanted to be here and did not want to go through the proper channels to do so.
Its identity theft, which is a felony.
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