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RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal - 5/18/2010 5:29:40 AM   
RacerJim


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How can you even begin to think that the AZ law is a non-issue? Perhaps you are blond and blue eyed and do not look illegal.  There is nothing okay with legalizing racial profiling.


Actually, how can you even begin to think AZ's new law is an issue when all it does is give AZ the legal authority to enforce the exact same Federal immigration law(s) that the Federal government has failed to enforce? Perhaps you are blind and deaf and do not live in AZ. There is nothing okay with lying that AZ's law legalizes racial profiling. Apparantly you, just like AG Eric Holder, didn't read AZ's new law before you opened your mouth about it.

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RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal - 5/18/2010 5:39:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

How can you even begin to think that the AZ law is a non-issue? Perhaps you are blond and blue eyed and do not look illegal.  There is nothing okay with legalizing racial profiling.


Actually, how can you even begin to think AZ's new law is an issue when all it does is give AZ the legal authority to enforce the exact same Federal immigration law(s) that the Federal government has failed to enforce? Perhaps you are blind and deaf and do not live in AZ. There is nothing okay with lying that AZ's law legalizes racial profiling. Apparantly you, just like AG Eric Holder, didn't read AZ's new law before you opened your mouth about it.


Have you read it?

And have you compared it to federal immigration law?


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RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal - 5/18/2010 5:44:24 AM   
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Funny how someone who spoke out against the effectiveness of a boarder wall is now using the same wall to promote his campaign.


Not funny is how someone who authorized issuing a waiver to BP a year ago and praised the safety record of the offshore drilling industry the week before the current Gulf of Mexico disaster has since been using that same disaster to demonize the previous administration and the offshore drilling industry.

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RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal - 5/18/2010 5:50:23 AM   
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So stopping people who look a certain way is not racial profiling??

There is an illegal immigration problem, I don't think many would argue with that.  The system needs fixed, but AZ is not the way to go about it.



So lying is something you repeatedly do?

AZ's law specifically PROHIBITS law enforcement officer's from stopping people simply because they look a certain way. The system needed fixing, and AZ did exactly that. You need to educate yourself on whatever before you lie about it.

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RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal - 5/18/2010 5:53:22 AM   
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RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal - 5/18/2010 6:08:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

So stopping people who look a certain way is not racial profiling??

There is an illegal immigration problem, I don't think many would argue with that.  The system needs fixed, but AZ is not the way to go about it.



So lying is something you repeatedly do?

AZ's law specifically PROHIBITS law enforcement officer's from stopping people simply because they look a certain way. The system needed fixing, and AZ did exactly that. You need to educate yourself on whatever before you lie about it.


Love your profile....You are a complete fucking tool.


"Keep It Simple Stupid

I am a unattached dominant white man looking for an unattached or attached (only if in an open relationship) submissive white woman with whom to enjoy an ongoing but non-serious mutually fulfilling D/s relationship.

Simple enough?"

Simple enough to realize that you are probably just another racist piece of teabagger shit.

Why do you think it is so important to list that you are a white male? There is place in your profile to list caucasian. Which you did. Seems like a bit of overkill on your part. Whenever I see someone making an announcement of their "whiteness" it usually means that they don't really dig the other hues in the spectrum. Typically they are ALL harboring some hatred for their fellow man.

Here let me help you.....


Racer Jim is a dominant

WHITE!!!!!!!

Male.

Also, you ended the word "stupid" with an "l" at the beginning of your profile....."stupidl." Illiterate skinheads.

asshat.

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RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal - 5/18/2010 6:21:31 AM   
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Every REAL NASCAR fan know Jeff Gordon is a douche



And incidentally, Katy does not lie. if you were half the person she is you wouln't be such a jag.


She is however the vilest of whores!

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RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal - 5/18/2010 6:21:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: domiguy

While your own personal rockstars like Rush, Billy O'Reilly and Hannity are supposed to be news guys but have turned into celebrities that promote their political and/or social agenda(s) despite the fact their everyday lifestyles and agendas bear very little/no resemblance to that of "We the people..."

Like most issues it's the squeaky wheel that gets oiled.


Too bad you are apparently not bright enough to be able to see both sides of the equation. Pity. But not surprising.


And all three with such powerful intellect and insight it just fires the imagination.

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RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal - 5/18/2010 6:22:21 AM   
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RML, except your link to the Yahoo news story, in no way demonstrates that the law violates Hibel (or brown).

this is not a stop and identify law.


at all.

It specifically states,

"B. FOR ANY LAWFUL CONTACT MADE BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR AGENCY
21 OF THIS STATE OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS
22 STATE WHERE REASONABLE SUSPICION EXISTS THAT THE PERSON IS AN ALIEN WHO IS
23 UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES, A REASONABLE ATTEMPT SHALL BE MADE,
24 WHEN PRACTICABLE, TO DETERMINE THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERSON. THE
25 PERSON'S IMMIGRATION STATUS SHALL BE VERIFIED WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
26 PURSUANT TO 8 UNITED STATES CODE SECTION 1373(c)."

Here is a link to the text of the actuall law.....

http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf


It simply does not do what you and the rest of the left wing activist groups claim.


No one can be questioned for looking Hispanic.


It only applies to a lawfull contact by a police officer....


And with Real ID, it will be basically an instant check.


I think I have made up my mind on this issue.

That those opposed to it, have to make up stuff, and ignore the actually text, means a lot. Hell, the Obama Administration commented on it without even reading it. So it must be purley political concerns that drive them and thier opinion, not reality or the Good of the Nation.


Pure unadulterated polictics indeed! Obama's Attorney General denounced it then admitted he hadn't even read it.

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RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal - 5/18/2010 6:23:28 AM   
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That's the problem,  you actually believe that.


I can attest that I've been pulled over, in nice cars and shitty cars, late at night and during the day, for being a white person in a predominantly black, drug dealing neighborhood.

Which begs the question - if 95% of white people in that situation are buying drugs, is racial profiling justified? And does it change the situation if it turns out the cops were right?


Yeah sure, where and when. I smell bullshit


The area around Austin/Central - Washington/Madison, and the area around Pulaski/Independence and the 290 expressway.


Not sure what city you are speaking of. But whatever. Help me out. You are in Austrailia but got pulled over in the US?

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RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal - 5/18/2010 6:28:37 AM   
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Not sure what city you are speaking of. But whatever. Help me out. You are in Austrailia but got pulled over in the US?


I could be wrong, but I believe she just moved there.


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RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal - 5/18/2010 6:33:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RacerJim


quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

So stopping people who look a certain way is not racial profiling??

There is an illegal immigration problem, I don't think many would argue with that.  The system needs fixed, but AZ is not the way to go about it.



So lying is something you repeatedly do?

AZ's law specifically PROHIBITS law enforcement officer's from stopping people simply because they look a certain way. The system needed fixing, and AZ did exactly that. You need to educate yourself on whatever before you lie about it.


As I've said repeatedly on these threads about the immigration law, what the Arizona legislature tried to do was an end-around federal law by adding that section, which was not in the original bill.

Which still does not address the issue of reasonable suspicion and how the police are to determine that.

It also does not address the issue that Arizona is usurping federal authority unconstitutionally.

Maybe you need to educate yourself before you start calling others liars.

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RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal - 5/18/2010 6:35:02 AM   
domiguy


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Status: offline 		RacerJim while I am confident that you are a racist windbag, Jeffff is correct in stating that Katy is the vilest of whores.

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RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal - 5/18/2010 6:36:13 AM   
RacerJim


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim


quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

How can you even begin to think that the AZ law is a non-issue? Perhaps you are blond and blue eyed and do not look illegal.  There is nothing okay with legalizing racial profiling.


Actually, how can you even begin to think AZ's new law is an issue when all it does is give AZ the legal authority to enforce the exact same Federal immigration law(s) that the Federal government has failed to enforce? Perhaps you are blind and deaf and do not live in AZ. There is nothing okay with lying that AZ's law legalizes racial profiling. Apparantly you, just like AG Eric Holder, didn't read AZ's new law before you opened your mouth about it.


Have you read it?

And have you compared it to federal immigration law?




Yes I have.

Perhaps you'd care to post an in context and verbatim quote of the AZ law specifically legalizing racial profiling like KatyLied said it does?

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RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal - 5/18/2010 6:45:51 AM   
RacerJim


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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

While your own personal rockstars like Rush, Billy O'Reilly and Hannity are supposed to be news guys but have turned into celebrities that promote their political and/or social agenda(s) despite the fact their everyday lifestyles and agendas bear very little/no resemblance to that of "We the people..."

Like most issues it's the squeaky wheel that gets oiled.


Too bad you are apparently not bright enough to be able to see both sides of the equation. Pity. But not surprising.


And all three with such powerful intellect and insight it just fires the imagination.


And not one of those three are actually news guys but, rather, they all are opinion guys.
Too bad you are obviously too dim to be able to distinguish news from opinion. Typical liberal.

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RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal - 5/18/2010 6:51:22 AM   
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Yes I have.

Perhaps you'd care to post an in context and verbatim quote of the AZ law specifically legalizing racial profiling like KatyLied said it does?




There is no other way to rationally interpret it.

The "cover your ass"clause was added after the bill met initial objections.

But the law clearly allows police to stop anyone they believe to be illegal without that person having been suspected of any other crime, which is a clear departure from federal law.

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RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal - 5/18/2010 6:58:25 AM   
RacerJim


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim


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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

So stopping people who look a certain way is not racial profiling??

There is an illegal immigration problem, I don't think many would argue with that.  The system needs fixed, but AZ is not the way to go about it.



So lying is something you repeatedly do?

AZ's law specifically PROHIBITS law enforcement officer's from stopping people simply because they look a certain way. The system needed fixing, and AZ did exactly that. You need to educate yourself on whatever before you lie about it.


As I've said repeatedly on these threads about the immigration law, what the Arizona legislature tried to do was an end-around federal law by adding that section, which was not in the original bill.

Which still does not address the issue of reasonable suspicion and how the police are to determine that.

It also does not address the issue that Arizona is usurping federal authority unconstitutionally.

Maybe you need to educate yourself before you start calling others liars.



AZ added that section to make it perfectly clear to those who read something into the original bill which wasn't there...no end-around at all.

It indeed does address the issue of reasonable suspicion and how the police are to determine that...no ID, invaild ID, likely fake ID presented to police after being detained for having violated some other law gives the police reasonable suspicion to keep them detained in order to check their legal status further.

It doesn't need to address whether it's constitutional or not...that's for the Judicial Branch of government to address.

You need to stick to the facts if you're going to open your mouth.

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RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal - 5/18/2010 7:02:26 AM   
RacerJim


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Yes I have.

Perhaps you'd care to post an in context and verbatim quote of the AZ law specifically legalizing racial profiling like KatyLied said it does?




There is no other way to rationally interpret it.

The "cover your ass"clause was added after the bill met initial objections.

But the law clearly allows police to stop anyone they believe to be illegal without that person having been suspected of any other crime, which is a clear departure from federal law.


Well pal, since you didn't do what you've repeatedly implored, if not demanded, other people do...

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RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal - 5/18/2010 7:08:56 AM   
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And not one of those three are actually news guys but, rather, they all are opinion guys.
Too bad you are obviously too dim to be able to distinguish news from opinion. Typical liberal.


I stand corrected they are opinion guys that dole out their brand ofthe news to their brainwashed followers.

RacerJim are you still white and have you figured out how to spell the word "stupidl?"

What an arrogant racist cocksucker. Like most white supremacist not too sharp of a cookie.

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RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal - 5/18/2010 7:16:39 AM   
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So, you're claiming that a color preference in a mate denotes racism?

Are you sure you want to go there?






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