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leadership527 -> RE: Mutual Slavery - is it possible? (5/22/2010 7:46:01 AM)
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ORIGINAL: SocratesNot
By egalitarian I mean that you consider yourself and your partner equal in human dignity, worth, equal in rights to please and to be pleased, equal in needs and wants, but at the same time you like some things to be controlled by one side or the other. Wonderful then. This would not only describe my M/s relationship but the pretty much every other actual, real life, long-term M/s relationship I've run across. I totally agree with you, there is nothing "unequal" between Carol and I. We have simply taken up roles in the decision making process within our marriage which are well suited to our natural abilities and inclinations.
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If the Dom controls the slave's pleasure it doesn't meen that he neglects it. Control is not equal to denial.
Fair enough... control equals control... period. Sometimes that results in denial, sometimes not. As a piece of advice, I strongly suggest you stop using the word "slave" in your posts though in favor of "submissive". I'm well familiar with internet circles and I am acutely aware that the word "slave" has no meaning. But out here in the real world, it generally does even if nobody can quite agree on what that meaning is. Consider that a throw-away piece of education that I sincerely doubt you'll avail yourself of.
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In mutual slavery it would be even easier to achieve because everyone would be in control of their partner, but not of themselves. Why would it be easier? This would only be easier if both people are some sort of switchy sort of thing. For most people, what is easiest is to do as their inclination suggests. For Carol and I, what you are suggesting isn't even possible in any meaningful sense. We are too far apart on the d/s scale for her to meaningfully control me. I'd probably do OK with it, but she would absolutely suffer. At the very best, it would be highly awkward. As is typically true with you, you are seeking to draw generalities when in real life, you MUST look at the individuals in the equation. Why are you so resistant to looking at actual humans as individuals? I know you are trying to understand this all, but we keep telling you that it cannot be understood the way your are trying to.
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