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kiwisub12 -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/21/2010 5:13:00 PM)
You know what is lost due to circumcision? - penile cancer! And having recently seen a man with penile cancer, a small procedure on an infant too young to know isn't too much to escape that particularly nasty malade. Cutting a mans penis off is a particularly upsetting (to me) surgery. And it is way easier to have a circumcision as a baby than as a teenager or adult. The amount of swelling for those age groups is absolutely amazing!

domiguy -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/21/2010 5:21:32 PM)
Alas, I have been shorned. Me dick does not look like a scurred turtle.

rulemylife -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/21/2010 5:23:48 PM)
Oh where oh where can my foreskin be The doctor took her away from me She's gone to heaven so I got to be good So I can see my baby when I leave this world (Last Kiss) YouTube - Where oh where can my baby be

LadyPact -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/21/2010 5:28:24 PM)
This is the only dick thread that's been interesting enough to read in weeks. Kudos! (Of course, this doesn't change most of the threads around here where guys tend to think everyone is interested in their dicks.)

heartcream -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/21/2010 5:43:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kiwisub12 You know what is lost due to circumcision? - penile cancer! And having recently seen a man with penile cancer, a small procedure on an infant too young to know isn't too much to escape that particularly nasty malade. Cutting a mans penis off is a particularly upsetting (to me) surgery. And it is way easier to have a circumcision as a baby than as a teenager or adult. The amount of swelling for those age groups is absolutely amazing! Nope and nope.

rulemylife -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/21/2010 5:45:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact This is the only dick thread that's been interesting enough to read in weeks. Kudos! (Of course, this doesn't change most of the threads around here where guys tend to think everyone is interested in their dicks.) I have an extremely interesting dick. Well,..............ok...............I'm pretty interested in it anyway.

Aneirin -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/21/2010 6:06:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heartcream Many people think circumcision removes nothing more than a little extra skin. The truth is that circumcision removes several critical components of male sexual anatomy. I was with a bunch of friends this past weekend and this issue came up. Personally I feel circumcision is barbaric, cruel and detrimental to a peaceful civilization. I was astounded to hear that there are tens of thousands of nerve receptors for estrogen in the foreskin. Tens of thousands. This made me really cry piteously for the men who have been shorn and continue to be. For all of us, we all live here together. What effect does it have, well, in a single word; sensitivity Great for the ladies, but crap for me, intercourse is a need in search of something never fufilled. I had it because some dick head doctor told my ma as a sprog, I should have the foreskin pulled back to clean underneath. The result was, it got stuck forcing an operation I understand without anaesthetic for the belief at the time that babies were not developed enough to feel pain. I wonders now, of those that like or at least seek cbt, is it a memory of a painfull past, a need to relive those past moments and there seek the sense of what they felt, but could not understand. Foreskins, some can be ugly, a cut cock always looks better, but the foreskin is there for a reason, to keep the glans moist and sensitive. Foreskin removal alows the glans to dry out, and with that drying and hardening,bang goes any hope of sensitivity, the cock becomes just a thing that needs attention now and again, in the serch for something the mind needs, but is rarely found. Foreskin removal by various cultures strikes me as the instigator at the start of it knew full well what cock sensitivity could do, what needs could be fulfilled, but in an act of piety created something that denied those afflicted of ever feeling what is natural to feel.

rulemylife -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/21/2010 6:18:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aneirin Foreskins, some can be ugly, a cut cock always looks better, but the foreskin is there for a reason, to keep the glans moist and sensitive. Foreskin removal alows the glans to dry out, and with that drying and hardening,bang goes any hope of sensitivity, the cock becomes just a thing that needs attention now and again, in the serch for something the mind needs, but is rarely found. Foreskin removal by various cultures strikes me as the instigator at the start of it knew full well what cock sensitivity could do, what needs could be fulfilled, but in an act of piety created something that denied those afflicted of ever feeling what is natural to feel. I don't know how much more sensitive my circumcised cock could be. I can't even leave the house when there is a strong wind.

thishereboi -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/21/2010 6:35:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rule quote: ORIGINAL: Jeffff But I have a lovely penis! That is great. Saint Paul said that one can be a Christian even without foreskin, but that it is better not to circumcise. I call on you all to stop the practice of circumcision. May the God of the Dead reward you for doing so. Ok Rule, you have convinced me. I swear to the Goddesses, I will never again circumcise anyone.

Aneirin -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/21/2010 6:58:40 PM)
Everybody is different and with that every cock is different, but I know one thing, I wish the medical profession did not stick to such old wives tails as cleaning a baby by pulling the foreskin back. The body, is fully capable of cleaning itself in such places, or at least nulifying chances of infection due to no carbolic soap being applied. If the foreskin was such a problem, I wonder how it is mankind has got this far in it's existence. It was suggested that some doctors advocated the removal of the foreskin on the grounds of health, as a blind for their own religious belief. Perhaps it is useful to examine what belief doctors come from, both now and what was before, Our family doctor had the name of Cohen, so I can only surmise the advice given on new born care might have a connection to practices from the past. I have only one bit of sensitivity left, the bastards that cut me, left me with the frenulum, which is sensitive sometimes, but at other times not. Given the choice I would rather be left intact, so at least I have the choice to be circumcised or not, a case of on my head be it, no blame or ill feeling towards others and wonders what the fuck it would be like to be sensitive, would shagging be more fulfilling or not. It could be of course I have been with incapable women, but disatisfaction with all is not right, it could be my affliction is hindering my enjoyment of those women. Given that satisfaction has yet to be obtained, I take it that it is me who lacks what is needed to enjoy the act of sexual union. But in a phallocentric orientated society, what can we expect than a fascination with penii and thoughts of the penis, the life it can give, and the life it can take away, all the more reasons to mess with the bloody thing.

Rule -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/21/2010 7:00:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aneirin I had it because some dick head doctor told my ma as a sprog, I should have the foreskin pulled back to clean underneath. In a child the foreskin is hermetically sealed against the penis. This seal protects against infection as it is not penetrable to any bacterium. If a parent is so very stupid as to pull back the foreskin, this hermetic seal is broken and the penis is exposed to bacteria and at risk of infection. The rule for normal parents is to: NEVER touch the penis of your sons. Leave the seal intact. Notice that this is opposite to what the parents from circumcised populations are raised to do. As the penis of circumcised males is continually exposed to disease, they are raised to obsessively clean the penis and in their ignorance they will pull back the foreskin of their not yet circumcised sons to wash that part of the penis also, thus breaking the seal and exposing the child to infection.

heartcream -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/21/2010 7:01:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aneirin What effect does it have, well, in a single word; sensitivity Great for the ladies, but crap for me, intercourse is a need in search of something never fufilled. I had it because some dick head doctor told my ma as a sprog, I should have the foreskin pulled back to clean underneath. The result was, it got stuck forcing an operation I understand without anaesthetic for the belief at the time that babies were not developed enough to feel pain. I wonders now, of those that like or at least seek cbt, is it a memory of a painfull past, a need to relive those past moments and there seek the sense of what they felt, but could not understand. Foreskins, some can be ugly, a cut cock always looks better, but the foreskin is there for a reason, to keep the glans moist and sensitive. Foreskin removal alows the glans to dry out, and with that drying and hardening,bang goes any hope of sensitivity, the cock becomes just a thing that needs attention now and again, in the serch for something the mind needs, but is rarely found. Foreskin removal by various cultures strikes me as the instigator at the start of it knew full well what cock sensitivity could do, what needs could be fulfilled, but in an act of piety created something that denied those afflicted of ever feeling what is natural to feel. I think this stigma/judgments/belief with the appearance of a circumcised cock will fade in time. A hooded cock is a good cock and it looks circumcised when aroused so there is some motivation if ya want it to have that look. I am shocked it is 2010 and our society largely is choosing a look over the best thing bottomline.

kiwisub12 -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/21/2010 7:07:15 PM)
Best thing by whos account? Yours? Does that make you the Lordhighpoohbahofthepenisuniverse?

Rule -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/21/2010 7:07:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi Ok Rule, you have convinced me. I swear to the Goddesses, I will never again circumcise anyone. Thank you. Thank you for in this way saving and blessing your population and by extension the human species. May the Goddesses love you.

TreasureKY -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/21/2010 7:52:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rule ... The rule for normal parents is to: NEVER touch the penis of your sons. Leave the seal intact. Notice that this is opposite to what the parents from circumcised populations are raised to do. As the penis of circumcised males is continually exposed to disease, they are raised to obsessively clean the penis and in their ignorance they will pull back the foreskin of their not yet circumcised sons to wash that part of the penis also, thus breaking the seal and exposing the child to infection. This sounds like a bit of hooey, to me. Perhaps it isn't universal, but my understanding is that most Gentile circumcisions are performed between 24 and 72 hours after birth, before the mother and baby are discharged from the hospital. The Jewish Bris Milah, is performed on the eighth day after birth. I've had three sons in three different states, each circumcised within a day or so of birth and before we left the hospital. On not a single of those occasions did I ever even have the opportunity to bathe or clean any of my sons before the circumcision. And if you'd ever experienced childbirth in a hospital, you'd know that mothers are rarely allowed to do anything with their new baby while in the hospital without a solicitous OB Nurse giving careful instructions or watching over them. By the third child, it gets rather annoying. As for the Jewish method of waiting until the eighth day, I can only surmise that with such a deeply held belief and public tradition that dates back thousands of years, the Jewish probably know enough (and pass that information along) to not try forcing the foreskin back prior to the Bris. I'm sure there are anecdotal exceptions, but to assert that parents from circumcised populations are raised to pull back and clean under the foreskin is ridiculous. Oh, and nice touch inferring that parents from circumcised populations are not normal. [8\|]

Wolf2Bear -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/21/2010 7:58:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heartcream quote: ORIGINAL: Aneirin What effect does it have, well, in a single word; sensitivity Great for the ladies, but crap for me, intercourse is a need in search of something never fufilled. I had it because some dick head doctor told my ma as a sprog, I should have the foreskin pulled back to clean underneath. The result was, it got stuck forcing an operation I understand without anaesthetic for the belief at the time that babies were not developed enough to feel pain. I wonders now, of those that like or at least seek cbt, is it a memory of a painfull past, a need to relive those past moments and there seek the sense of what they felt, but could not understand. Foreskins, some can be ugly, a cut cock always looks better, but the foreskin is there for a reason, to keep the glans moist and sensitive. Foreskin removal alows the glans to dry out, and with that drying and hardening,bang goes any hope of sensitivity, the cock becomes just a thing that needs attention now and again, in the serch for something the mind needs, but is rarely found. Foreskin removal by various cultures strikes me as the instigator at the start of it knew full well what cock sensitivity could do, what needs could be fulfilled, but in an act of piety created something that denied those afflicted of ever feeling what is natural to feel. I think this stigma/judgments/belief with the appearance of a circumcised cock will fade in time. A hooded cock is a good cock and it looks circumcised when aroused so there is some motivation if ya want it to have that look. I am shocked it is 2010 and our society largely is choosing a look over the best thing bottomline. So what....we men who are circumcised are now to start blaming our parents because they felt it was best to have us circumcised at a very early age? Frankly makes more bloody sense to focus that energy on something more productive.Cripes, a cock is a cock regardless if it has a foreskin or not.

Rule -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/21/2010 8:22:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TreasureKY Oh, and nice touch inferring that parents from circumcised populations are not normal. Indeed, they are not normal. They are ignorant on how to manage the normal penis of their progeny as the Creator intended that it should be managed, which is: to NEVER touch the penis of their son. Any normal parent raised with normal penises will tell you that. For that matter any mammal might tell you that if it had a voice to speak with. Or do you think that sperm whales touch the penis of their male progeny? All who circumcise are blaspheming cowards who rob their sons of their destiny and make them blasphemers per force. Repent your sin and stop opposing the Divine.

TreasureKY -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/21/2010 8:29:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rule Indeed, they are not normal. They are ignorant on how to manage the normal penis of their progeny as the Creator intended that it should be managed, which is: to NEVER touch the penis of their son. Any normal parent raised with normal penises will tell you that. For that matter any mammal might tell you that if it had a voice to speak with. Or do you think that sperm whales touch the penis of their male progeny? All who circumcise are blaspheming cowards who rob their sons of their destiny and make them blasphemers per force. Repent your sin and stop opposing the Divine. [8\|] Utter drivel.

Rule -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/21/2010 8:32:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TreasureKY Utter drivel. May the God of the Dead reward you according to your merits.

InControl754 -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/21/2010 8:37:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cpK69 Why fear the loss of physical parts more than loss of purpose? I equate circumcision to cutting the ears off. Certainly you can still hear; and if enough people get it done, the ones with ears are the odd ones. Also, all the earless will tell each other how much better they look with that ugly extra skin around their earholes cut off, and they all will swear that they hear just as well as one of those ugly fuckers with ears. And if you cut the ears off when the child is only days old and they don't remember what it was like to have ears and hear with ears, they can tell themselves that they are glad you did it so that they look like everyone else. Certainly the purpose is not lost, but you have to think that hearing with no fucking ears is not the same as hearing with them. I have a foreskin, and I will bet that my penis head is six times more sensitive than any circumcised dick whose head has been calloused by rubbing around in tighty whiteys its whole life. When I have a good orgasm I fucking see stars and could probably read braille with the tip of my dick it is so sensitive. And those who have studies that say disease is rampant due to non-circumcised dicks, please refer to all the studies that said eggs were bad for you, fat in your diet is bad for you, and the studies that said more doctors smoke Camel cigarettes than any other brand. As mentioned previously, if having a forskin was a bad thing, evolution would have phased it out by now - it is obviously a GOOD thing, since most male mammals seem to have it or something like it. Circumcision is a 2000 year old lie to control stupid people. And look how it still does.

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