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RE: Global Economy = Global Recession/Depression? - 5/24/2010 4:55:30 PM   
Marini


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lol, bite me.

Tim, I said I would change my mind when I BELIEVE our society, the economy, and many people's lives as a whole are REALLY getting better.
 
I believe what I see going on in the real world, a lot more than I believe you, Tim.
 
We have lies, lies, and damn lies.
We also have people like you with rose colored glasses on.

Don't believe what you see with your eyes, believe what I am telling you.

Not gonna happen Tim.

What I find interesting, is the fact you can't seem to accept, I will not change my mind over anything typed on the internet.

PEACE!

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RE: Global Economy = Global Recession/Depression? - 5/24/2010 4:55:30 PM   
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Ellen,

It's a response to the post immediately preceding it.

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RE: Global Economy = Global Recession/Depression? - 5/24/2010 4:57:00 PM   
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quote:

I see that, I am entitled to my opinions and my believes.


I've no problem with that.

It's a shame you don't feel the same way about others, especially when they can support theirs with more than their feelings.

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RE: Global Economy = Global Recession/Depression? - 5/24/2010 5:01:01 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Thank goodness for American Idol then eh?

The last thing we need is widespread civil unrest to add to our woes - which is why I believe my fourth point is so essential as a means of putting right that which has gone wrong.
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we are not making the correct fixes and I certainly agree that it IS good we do not have riots.

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RE: Global Economy = Global Recession/Depression? - 5/24/2010 5:01:38 PM   
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I'm not sure I understand you? I am talking about the movement of our countries' political moods towards a new direction (the old direction but there we go) in that post. That this should have international ramifications as well as national ramifications is kind of the point of such a change, but I dont understand how or why any introduction, amendment or improvement to international law should affect us in our democratic decisions and outlooks or be requisite to such a change?

But anyway, on a point of international law (kind of) its now 0200hrs GMT and well past time for my bed!

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RE: Global Economy = Global Recession/Depression? - 5/24/2010 5:02:39 PM   
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MM, in 3 years MIA will buy your farm for 10 oz of silver.  You or your neighbor.

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RE: Global Economy = Global Recession/Depression? - 5/24/2010 5:05:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

quote:

I see that, I am entitled to my opinions and my believes.


I've no problem with that.

It's a shame you don't feel the same way about others, especially when they can support theirs with more than their feelings.

That is where you are totally wrong, I feel you are entitled to believe whatever you want, I don't really care if you believe in Santa Claus, Martians, and worship cockroaches.

My issue is when you attempt to change what I believe, especially when I have told you, you can not.
To each their own.


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RE: Global Economy = Global Recession/Depression? - 5/25/2010 6:19:06 PM   
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Well, well, well, where is old Tim now?

Evidently many people around the world can see that the "global economy" can

indeed effect many countries !!
Maybe this global economy could = global recession/Depression for some countries?


  
Maybe this idea is not so far fetched?

I often forget Tim can't "see" or "believe" anything until someone else writes about it.

Many, many chatting about the global markets falling today.
World markets fall sharply - May. 25, 2010

Now, I could post about 100 articles in which many feel that the "world markets" can indeed affect the global economy, of many countries right about now.
 
Humm, global economy = related to global recession/Depression anyone?
Not so far fetched you say?

  
I love the fact, that I am able to think outside of the box, right or wrong, and make predictions about the world around me.

I have zero background in finance or economics, but it would not take Madame Cleo to figure out that the global economy can/could indeed trigger positive and negative effects in the global markets ----> triggering recessions/Depressions in some countries.
 

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RE: Global Economy = Global Recession/Depression? - 5/25/2010 8:19:51 PM   
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What the fuck is your problem?

Markets go up and down everyday. Today, tensions between North and South Korea are making Asian investors nervous, and that's spilling over.

Sorry the world doesn't bow at your feet, Miss Cleo. For one who thinks she's appreciative of different opinions, you're one obnoxious bitch.

If you want to spend your days picking up pieces of sky, have at it.


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RE: Global Economy = Global Recession/Depression? - 5/25/2010 8:30:04 PM   
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What an angry person you are. 
I hope you are able to control your emotions and anger better in real life than on the internet.

You need to consider going to anger managment classes.

Go look for your "rainbow shades", put them on and take some deep breaths.

 
It appears that the global markets/global economy could contribute globally to recession/Depressions in some countries.

< Message edited by Marini -- 5/25/2010 9:00:35 PM >


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RE: Global Economy = Global Recession/Depression? - 5/26/2010 8:04:45 AM   
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LOL.

Yeah- Goldman Sachs/JPM and the presidents working group on financial markets see to it.

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RE: Global Economy = Global Recession/Depression? - 6/29/2010 2:23:20 PM   
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It looks like my theory about a "possible"global depression is not that far fetched.
hummmm

Stocks close down on fears of global slowdown - Business - Stocks & economy - msnbc.com


Paul Krugman makes some very interesting points.
 
Op-Ed Columnist - The Third Depression - NYTimes.com

Buckle up your seatbelts, it is going to be a bumpy ride, and this ride is just getting started.

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RE: Global Economy = Global Recession/Depression? - 6/29/2010 2:32:06 PM   
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What about the green shoots?

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RE: Global Economy = Global Recession/Depression? - 6/29/2010 2:32:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

First off, the developing countries will be fine - and this whether we can continue to buy their exports or more widely we can meet our debts to them. They have developed sizeable internal markets in the period over which they have taken the stage and this will see them through.

Secondly, given the enormous debts owed by we old economies to the developing economies, it will not be in their best interests for us to collapse. Not only will they not get paid but their influence over us will be diminished and so I believe they will do all they can to keep us afloat, if only just, until we find a way to recover, which may well be by way of agreeing market regulations such that their markets present fair competition for us to sell to them whatever it is we might be able to. The price to be paid in the long term by us is to lose our primacy in the world and have the developing economies effectively dictate terms to us.

Thirdly the ups and downs of stock markets and currency exchanges provide little guidance as to the situation except to the extent that they indicate the fears of those involved in relation to the relative situation from time to time and place to place and their exposure to possible losses should certain fears predominate. As such the Euro and Sterling will likely depreciate against the Dollar as will European stock markets vs the Dow et al, because the markets are predominantly expressed in, and assets are predominantly held in, US Dollars and the majority do not want to see themselves wiped out so will transfer fear to where it will least harm them. This however will not indicate the strength of the US economy or the Dollar except relative to their European counterparts, and the Dollar, Dow et al may well depreciate against their counterparts elsewhere in the world.

Fourthly there is no doubt in my mind that unless we roll back from the type of socio-economic model we have come to be dominated by - "greed is good", "devil take the hindmost", "etc" and adopt a liberal, social democratic model that nonetheless places emphasis on the importance of the private sector in order to meet social needs, then we are pretty much up the swanny.

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Youve got the problem right, too bad your solution is bass ackwards.

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RE: Global Economy = Global Recession/Depression? - 6/29/2010 2:34:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

MM, in 3 years MIA will buy your farm for 10 oz of silver.  You or your neighbor.


Within 3 years you will have been committed.

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RE: Global Economy = Global Recession/Depression? - 6/29/2010 2:36:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Marini

It looks like my theory about a "possible"global depression is not that far fetched.
hummmm



Paul Krugman makes some very interesting points.
 
Op-Ed Columnist - The Third Depression - NYTimes.com

Buckle up your seatbelts, it is going to be a bumpy ride, and this ride is just getting started.


Krugman is a socialist quack.

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RE: Global Economy = Global Recession/Depression? - 6/29/2010 2:37:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Marini

It looks like my theory about a "possible"global depression is not that far fetched.
hummmm



Paul Krugman makes some very interesting points.
 
Op-Ed Columnist - The Third Depression - NYTimes.com

Buckle up your seatbelts, it is going to be a bumpy ride, and this ride is just getting started.


Krugman is a socialist quack.



But, but I enjoy reading what Krugman writes, time will tell buddy.

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RE: Global Economy = Global Recession/Depression? - 6/29/2010 4:09:42 PM   
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Trillions.

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RE: Global Economy = Global Recession/Depression? - 6/29/2010 4:21:15 PM   
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Mia,

they like getting false hope.  they like the goldilocks govt line.  they like that their homes, job, and retirement are stolen and given to the bankers.

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RE: Global Economy = Global Recession/Depression? - 6/29/2010 5:57:54 PM   
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My belief is the ideas rule the world not money. We are already in the economic depression. The question is: how long will it take to turn into anarchy? The biggest problem now is: people have lost trust into the system. This can not be repaired. His Majesty has no clothes. All pyramid scams collapse when the participants start massively falling off. How to shut down alternative media and let the Krugmans speak?

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