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RE: Powerful subs - 5/24/2010 11:36:57 AM   
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It sucks being a domme. You guys really do deserve exactly what you get.
Actually, I'm pretty bloody chuffed with 'what I get' most of the time (if we must talk about people like that), so I'll take that as a compliment.



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RE: Powerful subs - 5/24/2010 11:36:59 AM   
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It sucks being a domme. You guys really do deserve exactly what you get.


And bam. The agreeing spree had to end ;-)

I think life as a Domme is absolutely fabulous and what I have gotten and what I will get is more than any woman could ever hope for.

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RE: Powerful subs - 5/24/2010 11:39:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressRoux

Thanks for the suggestion @LadyHibiscus. Jeans are a better idea. Will get on that.



Anything but *pink* knickers, especially with the label visible. Sorry, but I think it's better for me to be bold than for you to be stumped.

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RE: Powerful subs - 5/24/2010 11:58:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

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ORIGINAL: MistressRoux

Perhaps I should paraphrase this a bit and put it in the sub section.

Well, athletes don't necessarily embody these traits. Yes, it's a bonus if someone has a more domineering (?) presence and physical strength than I. There's something about looking up and yanking them down (by the shirt or tie) for a kiss, a ride or whatever else... As a tall, not petite girl, I sadly don't come across these types often though personality see aforementioned traits) is far more important.

The gym rat/bodybuilder look is disgusting though and BBM (?) don't do it for me either.


I used to think that "powerful" was a good word to describe the kind of "alpha" type I thought I wanted, but then I came across a lot of men that were trying way too hard to be domineering, a bully, or arrogant - and they played it up as much as possible. Or they tried to be a "challenge," and when it became annoying because it was so melodramatic, I lost interest and then they came simpering back begging to be dominating, stating that the whole "I'm a cocky asshole," thing was a shtick and really they were a 'sissy' - and it was very uncomfortable.

What I have found is that I am attracted to *capability*.  This can come in a lot of different forms, and it does not translate into being the total alpha male or the big macho type. It means a man has quiet confidence.  Beyond that, it can be capability in any area.  I find that my level of lust gets ratcheted up the more capable a man is - in any field.   It can be playing a musical instrument (if he's a musician on stage and getting paid for it, even moreso, because then he's truly capable), a professional athlete, (again, because he's recognized as the elite of his realm), etc. Even to a lesser degree it can pique my interests -- someone who is a good golfer, can fix a car with his bare hands, whatever.

Akasha



Oh yes, and oh my gosh do I agree with this! I'm done with the daredevil macho arrogant boys. They are fun to take down, but then you have to deal with their drama after.

Give me a guy with intrinsic strength of character, any day.

- LA


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RE: Powerful subs - 5/24/2010 12:15:34 PM   
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You know, I used to really like a buff guy for those more raw moments in time when a buff guy just filled the spot and I could send him home before he was able to speak again. But I always liked those professional types, the smart ones, the geeks, intellectual's and comedian types, for the long haul. What they couldn't do in buff was made up for in laughter, good conversation, fun trips and interesting activities. Worth so much more to me and I could pull it off because of my youth and all I am as a person.

Now that I am older and that youth isn't working for me... I've had a few lawyers and even a doctor and found them seriously not what I would want... I want a buff guy that I can't get and the intellectuals are going for the young babes! So give me a buff guy who likes my dominating self and I will watch CNN or something.

(I know, I'm evil today. I really didn't mean most of that! lol)


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RE: Powerful subs - 5/24/2010 12:42:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika


quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressRoux

Perhaps I should paraphrase this a bit and put it in the sub section.

Well, athletes don't necessarily embody these traits. Yes, it's a bonus if someone has a more domineering (?) presence and physical strength than I. There's something about looking up and yanking them down (by the shirt or tie) for a kiss, a ride or whatever else... As a tall, not petite girl, I sadly don't come across these types often though personality see aforementioned traits) is far more important.

The gym rat/bodybuilder look is disgusting though and BBM (?) don't do it for me either.


I used to think that "powerful" was a good word to describe the kind of "alpha" type I thought I wanted, but then I came across a lot of men that were trying way too hard to be domineering, a bully, or arrogant - and they played it up as much as possible. Or they tried to be a "challenge," and when it became annoying because it was so melodramatic, I lost interest and then they came simpering back begging to be dominating, stating that the whole "I'm a cocky asshole," thing was a shtick and really they were a 'sissy' - and it was very uncomfortable.

What I have found is that I am attracted to *capability*.  This can come in a lot of different forms, and it does not translate into being the total alpha male or the big macho type. It means a man has quiet confidence.  Beyond that, it can be capability in any area.  I find that my level of lust gets ratcheted up the more capable a man is - in any field.   It can be playing a musical instrument (if he's a musician on stage and getting paid for it, even moreso, because then he's truly capable), a professional athlete, (again, because he's recognized as the elite of his realm), etc. Even to a lesser degree it can pique my interests -- someone who is a good golfer, can fix a car with his bare hands, whatever.

Akasha



Oh yes, and oh my gosh do I agree with this! I'm done with the daredevil macho arrogant boys. They are fun to take down, but then you have to deal with their drama after.

Give me a guy with intrinsic strength of character, any day.

- LA



Dommes.... You're describing my perfect Dom. I often use that phrase "quiet confidence" and capable...while I want to be controlled by a man like this...you want to control him.

I find this quite interesting...

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RE: Powerful subs - 5/24/2010 1:15:15 PM   
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i know that this is a digression from the main topic of the thread, but you guys started it.  So i'll add my 2 cents. 

As a male sub, i must say that i completely missed the "ass worship" message in your main photo.  To me, the message was more like "come take me forcibly and f**k me up my ass".  Or perhaps it says "i'm looking for a daddy Dom".

OP, the pic really doesn't communicate the dominance that you are trying to portray.  There is an old saying that "a picture is worth a thousand words".  Unfortunately, in this case the words are not the words that you want it to say. 



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RE: Powerful subs - 5/24/2010 1:29:50 PM   
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I have to agree with Rochsub - the OP's photo screams submissive. I was rather surprised to find out she is dominant.

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RE: Powerful subs - 5/24/2010 1:31:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

...got a case of the snorting giggles which soooooo did not help the poor old woman on the other end decide what sort of envelopes she really needs.

Another victory, Peon! Congrats :D


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RE: Powerful subs - 5/24/2010 2:30:41 PM   
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I agree with Domiguy those types really want together women. I remember a ttime when I was not at my best and though I was dominating some men, my personal life was in a bit of a shambles and I left kink for a while. Isee lots of ads for financial domination but if I need NEED a man/sub/slaves money then I don't feel so much in control myself. Being independent and Not needing a slave is domination to me..okay rambling point is I like dominant men too who are not submissive but will submit To Me, again they really want a woman who is in charge of herself as well as being in charge of them.  and last year for me it was all lawyers, this year its all engineers??
And I love Bill C wish he was my slave lucky Lewinski!!

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RE: Powerful subs - 5/24/2010 2:40:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jbcurious

Dommes.... You're describing my perfect Dom. I often use that phrase "quiet confidence" and capable...while I want to be controlled by a man like this...you want to control him.

I find this quite interesting...


A good man is a good man, regardless of whether he likes to give it or take it ;-)

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RE: Powerful subs - 5/24/2010 2:47:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

LP.. have you ever in your life used the word, "daft"

Would you have to turn your Dom card in if you did?


I've used it this week and so did OA and we are both in N. America.

I guess you and Domi weren't paying attention on new words day on Sesame Street.

Here's a little word lesson for you on Daft Bodies.

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RE: Powerful subs - 5/24/2010 3:04:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009

i know that this is a digression from the main topic of the thread, but you guys started it.  So i'll add my 2 cents. 

As a male sub, i must say that i completely missed the "ass worship" message in your main photo.  To me, the message was more like "come take me forcibly and f**k me up my ass".  Or perhaps it says "i'm looking for a daddy Dom".

OP, the pic really doesn't communicate the dominance that you are trying to portray.  There is an old saying that "a picture is worth a thousand words".  Unfortunately, in this case the words are not the words that you want it to say. 




For the OP's information, this might be one of the most relevant responses, as Rochsub might be one of the submissive men that most fit the description of the kind of man she is looking for (professional business man, super alpha type).

- LA


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RE: Powerful subs - 5/24/2010 4:02:51 PM   
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Powerful subs is the topic.  Thank you.



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RE: Powerful subs - 5/24/2010 5:47:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

For the OP's information, this might be one of the most relevant responses, as Rochsub might be one of the submissive men that most fit the description of the kind of man she is looking for (professional business man, super alpha type).

- LA



Hell, are there sub-categories of alpha-sub? What would someone like Bill Gates be if he were a sub? A super-duper-wooper-Alpha sub? What about beta subs - can you get top class beta subs, mid-class ones, and bottom-betas? Or are bottom-beta-class subs more properly called Charlies? (I must be one of those, I've been told I'm a proper charlie before.)

Also, does anyone know what an 'Alfa' is? I've seen a couple of people spell it that way on here. Googling it just brings up the name of the car, though. Is it the same as an 'Alpha'?



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RE: Powerful subs - 5/24/2010 5:52:42 PM   
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One of the most active and regular posters of this particular board has brought it to my attention that more than a dozen off topic posts are sullying up this thread.  Usually we let them go.  If no one reports them, we figure that posters are okay with them. They did say they had responded to some but could not report themselves.  So if your post has disappeared, you'll know why. 

Edited to add: the only posts removed were the ones reported.

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RE: Powerful subs - 5/24/2010 6:12:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika


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ORIGINAL: jbcurious

Dommes.... You're describing my perfect Dom. I often use that phrase "quiet confidence" and capable...while I want to be controlled by a man like this...you want to control him.

I find this quite interesting...


A good man is a good man, regardless of whether he likes to give it or take it ;-)

Unfortunately, my Master and I split up recently. Once I'm ready to start dating again, most of my standards and the things I will look for will be the same regardless of a man's BDSM or D/s orientation. Drive, physical strength, and confidence are wonderful traits in any man.

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RE: Powerful subs - 5/24/2010 6:39:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

For the OP's information, this might be one of the most relevant responses, as Rochsub might be one of the submissive men that most fit the description of the kind of man she is looking for (professional business man, super alpha type).

- LA



Hell, are there sub-categories of alpha-sub? What would someone like Bill Gates be if he were a sub? A super-duper-wooper-Alpha sub? What about beta subs - can you get top class beta subs, mid-class ones, and bottom-betas? Or are bottom-beta-class subs more properly called Charlies? (I must be one of those, I've been told I'm a proper charlie before.)

Also, does anyone know what an 'Alfa' is? I've seen a couple of people spell it that way on here. Googling it just brings up the name of the car, though. Is it the same as an 'Alpha'?



While Anda has already given her definition, I'll give you Mine, which is a little different.  In many poly households where there is a hierarchy established, a sub who is the first one collared to the Dominant is often called the alpha sub.  That would be the sub who can be helpful to any additional subs who join the household afterward.  A beta sub would be the one to join the household later, often completing a triad.  Some alpha subs have more importance in the household, even so much as being in charge of the other girl (giving direction for household chores and such) when the Dominant is not at home.  It can also be as simple as one dynamic is viewed as more important than the other.  Something to the tune of the Dominant and the alpha sub having the primary relationship, and the dynamic of the Dominant and the beta sub being the secondary dynamic.


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RE: Powerful subs - 5/24/2010 6:48:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Andalusite

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika


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ORIGINAL: jbcurious

Dommes.... You're describing my perfect Dom. I often use that phrase "quiet confidence" and capable...while I want to be controlled by a man like this...you want to control him.

I find this quite interesting...


A good man is a good man, regardless of whether he likes to give it or take it ;-)

Unfortunately, my Master and I split up recently. Once I'm ready to start dating again, most of my standards and the things I will look for will be the same regardless of a man's BDSM or D/s orientation. Drive, physical strength, and confidence are wonderful traits in any man.


Firstly Anda, I'm terribly sorry to hear this news. :-(

I do agree with your wonderful traits regardless of the side of the kneel they are on.

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RE: Powerful subs - 5/24/2010 6:53:26 PM   
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Thanks, LA! I still think he's a wonderful man, and I have an enormous amount of respect for him. We're trying to keep the friendship aspect, and it's going as well as it's *possible* for a breakup to, but it still is painful and difficult for both of us.

LP, I decided to take that part out, since mixing the joke with the serious was a little weird. Just to clarify, I'd said that a "beta" sub was one who was "beta-testing" submission to decide whether or not it worked for them. It was just a pun, not a serious definition. In practice, I agree with LP that I've mostly seen the term used in poly situations, where there is a hierarchy set either by length of service, or by a particular person being designated as in charge of the others due to their suitability.

There are a lot of submissives who have "alpha," dominant personalities, and others who tend to be submissive in their interactions with people in general. Sometimes, people in the second category are derided as "doormats," or taken advantage of. I suppose you could refer to them as "beta" or "omega," but I don't think it's common terminology in the BDSM community.

IMHO, a lot of men in the second category come across as unconsensually objectifying the Domme or switch women they are interested in. It comes across like they feel we are interchangeable, and they're only submitting to us because we have tits and a pussy, rather than because they are drawn to us as individual people, with our own desires, standards, and expectations. I don't think this is true of all submissive men who have submissive personalities. I do think that men who do feel submissive to women in general (or to people in general) need to be very careful in how they express this in their profiles, initial e-mails, and posts. IMHO, someone can still be very powerful on other levels, yet be more of a follower than a leader in life. My former submissive was very much that way. He could organise things, and was outgoing and made friends easily, but he wasn't interested in power or management in business, and he tended to be very helpful to all of his friends and most of his acquaintances, volunteered frequently, etc. He found it very fulfilling to be useful to the people he cared about, but didn't come across as sleazy or wanky about it.

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