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RE: The urge to self-destruct. - 5/25/2010 10:12:15 AM

Missokyst

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Sometimes I will fight what for some might appear to be an unwinnable fight. I never see it as a loss if I cannot get all to agree with me because frankly their opinion of me is of no consequence. I don't fight for my sake, I fight for principles, or to defend others who may not have the same skills in presenting their case, especially since barbs aimed at what they do might make them feel badly about themselves. If I see hypocracy at work, I will fight.
What is a train-wreck? Fighting your case even when it is not popular? See now.. there are two parts to that senario. One has to present their case.. and the masses make the CHOICE to respond, or not. I see making that choice, knowing that the OP's position is likely to devolve into mass destruction is just as guilty. That is why I have several people on block, ignore, delete, status. For a while there half the forums were unreadable because they were blocked.
Do I reject authority? No.. I relish authority, however I do not regard the masses as an authority over my thoughts, beliefs, or actions.
As for brattiness.. lol I have too many control issues to be considered a brat.

My position on most things in forums is to accept that youth and arrogance will think what it will, until life experience changes their mind, not words that are merely concepts. To that end I embrace, delete, block, ignore if I know that history is likely to repeat itself.
To do otherwise is the definition of insanity.

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So many times now I have seen it. Moderation! At times I have cried out in anguish over it, on others I have murmured blessings on the Mods. There may have been a time or two I walked away quickly from the whole conversation...

Why the urge among some, (and there is one in particular I'd much like to hear from) to go directly into the unwinnable fight? Is it the glory of leaving a memorable train wreck? Mindless rejection of authority? Sheer brattiness?

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RE: The urge to self-destruct. - 5/25/2010 10:55:09 AM

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I have a few reasons for why I tend to think it is, Heretic. As someone else mentioned, moderation is very rarely applied anymore. It used to be as easy as saying that what was going on wasn't acceptable. Now, it seems like someone literally has to stomp the hell out of TOS violations for the world to see before someone is actually placed on moderation. I'm a little torn on this Myself. I honestly couldn't say if I've made My personal mind up, considering all the implications of the whole whether it is better or worse. I still sincerely believe there is a potentially better middle ground. However, this isn't what you really asked.

Severe Mental Imbalance - In this, I'm talking about what would be the electronic equivalent to the guy you'd see on the street corner shouting at random passers by. I do mean the essence of the word delusional here. The ones who can't distinguish reality from the hallucinations that their mental illness has created for them.

Self Loathing Projected Onto Others - I do believe that there are some people who honestly can't accept themselves, so when they see their own traits in someone else, they viciously attack it.

Any Attention/Interaction Being Better Than None At All - Literally, the types that have to fight with everyone, no matter the premise. (This works with sympathy ploys as well.) Even though they don't have anything else, they will risk what they do have in the interaction here to keep the discussion focused on them. They are swept up in getting satisfied, in the moment with the attention they are receiving that they don't think long term.

A Personality That Completely Lacks Social Skills - Some people honestly do not know how to interact with other people. I'm talking about the kind of guy you might see at work that, if you weren't in a professional setting, you wouldn't deal with because he's the very definition of an asshole. On top of that, if the whole office told him that he was an asshole, he honestly wouldn't see it. Oh, but he is absolutely right about everything, even to the point of treating people badly just to prove that he is right.

Anyway, since so few people have been put on any form of moderation lately, I'm pretty sure you can tell which folks that have been moderated or are no longer with us due to outside (meaning moderation/removal from the site) influence fit which categories.

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RE: The urge to self-destruct. - 5/25/2010 11:19:37 AM

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A train wreck, a self-distruct concept, a you must not be a happy person insult, are all when the poster is firm on their opinions usually not the popular opinion and what i call the bandwagon social network get their knickers in a twist and get their little feelins hurt so they come out which is usually more than one poster running in to post not about the topic but against the poster his/herself and who accuse the poster of doing this because well gee the poster just won't bow down to their decision the poster is wrong.  But if you look at threads, i mean really look at them -- you can see the people who follow thread by thread intending to attack one or two posters as this bandwagon.  I did this once for amusement and had a chart and just started adding nicknames up the side and across and started marking when posters posted and with whom in a bandwagon fashion. If you want amusement, try doing it yourself lol its interesting. And then the bandwagoners blame the POSTER.   People can say all they want about no its not, when all you have to do is look at the threads for the truth of the matter. The issue i see is that people feel if you don't get involved how can you make fun of someone, call someone names, be condescending to them, and pretty much say negative things about them for all your friends to see and comment on with you?

When a wave of bees are coming at you, you kinda do look like you've lost your mind when you are trying to swat them away. And its easy to for the bees not see that THEY are the cause of it.

Trains can't wreck on their own. They need obstacles. When a bandwagon decides to become this obstacle because they don't like the poster or the opinion of the poster -- who exactly is causing the train wreck?

Its not self-destruction -- hell its a message board people its really not that deep. It is what it is a bunch of nicknames who utilize this message board for entertainment and it seems recently and more and more its entertaining to jump on bandwagons and call others idiots instead of looking at yourself and seeing your own actions. In the end what people don't get is -- you may be a leader to some, you may be a social network to others but for most people you aren't anyone, when you try and pretend you are -- its YOU who has the problem not the poster whom you are calling an idiot.

Its an online message board of nicknames, seriously people i think its a little too vague and anonymous for anyone to remotely take what is said here and apply it to the person on the other end of the keyboard. I don't shock easy but hell if people really think they have the ability to do that through posts on a discussion board, its not the poster you are whinging about who has an issue, i would say you should get checked for delusions of grandure and narcissistic personality disorder and quit worrying about other posters.

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RE: The urge to self-destruct. - 5/25/2010 11:23:37 AM

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Got a new one for you, LP.

Testosterone Toxicity! Dont think it needs explaining.

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RE: The urge to self-destruct. - 5/25/2010 11:34:00 AM

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LadyPact already said what I would have wished I had......

The funny thing is that, there are an awful lot of people that frequent this joint that I wouldn't want as neighbours. The really funny thing is that a few of the people many people have expressed the same about, I would feel the least concern for moving in next door.

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RE: The urge to self-destruct. - 5/25/2010 11:35:48 AM

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Has anyone expressed concern about me? I would hate to be left out.

No one gets me.

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RE: The urge to self-destruct. - 5/25/2010 11:44:41 AM

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Has anyone expressed concern about me? I would hate to be left out.

No one gets me.

All the time. I get pages and pages of emails......."That anteater, he is so fuckin scary!".... "Please June, do not allow him to escape.."

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RE: The urge to self-destruct. - 5/25/2010 12:11:18 PM

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Whew..... I am glad you are looking out for me!

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