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ORIGINAL: catfightservice

Right on Animusrex!!!!!Like my point about walmart. They dont use migrant labor. They just buy EVERYTHING from China. Now they are a legit super corporation. As they bleed American industry untill its dead. I mean I called a supportline for a computer printer I bought from walmart that had problems, and I was talking to people from india. Imagine that ? it is cheaper for them to hire people from india to answer the phone, and pay long distance, than it is to pay an american minnimum wage here.

If you feel that way, why did you buy the printer there to begin with?

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ORIGINAL: KYsissy

From my experience the vast majority of those coming here illegally are some of the hardest working motherf'res I have seen. They do drywall, roofing, dig trenches and a host of other menial jobs that people born here just won't do. 

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Typically your front of house staff at a restaurant or hotel is US born and the janitors, maids, laundry, etc are immigrants. And this is true for small businesses through the big mega-chains.

I worked at a Days Inn as a maid and it was about 1/2 and 1/2. The timeshares I worked at as a maid were about the same. But then again, maybe they weren't the typical maid jobs you were talking about. I suppose it's a good thing no one told me I wasn't supposed to want that type of job, or I might not have applied in the first place and unemployment sucks.

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

If you go back to the rest of this post please notice I am being specific to the employment market in California. The states with the highest percentage of illegal immigrants are California, Texas and Florida.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7255409

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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Typically your front of house staff at a restaurant or hotel is US born and the janitors, maids, laundry, etc are immigrants. And this is true for small businesses through the big mega-chains.

I worked at a Days Inn as a maid and it was about 1/2 and 1/2. The timeshares I worked at as a maid were about the same. But then again, maybe they weren't the typical maid jobs you were talking about. I suppose it's a good thing no one told me I wasn't supposed to want that type of job, or I might not have applied in the first place and unemployment sucks.

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

They? Who's they in this case? The Illuminati? Whitley Streiber's short grey friends from outer space? The Elders of Zion? The Masons?
My recollection is that it was your man Reagan who set the ball rolling on dismatling American industry and shipping jobs overseas. Surely from your viewpoint the wanker was "us" rather than "them"?

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

IMO, jailing the restaurant owner and seizing his property goes too far because of the economic impact on the local economy. I am fine with him paying fines and being checked by ICE on a regular basis. But the taxpayers will pay for a trial and any jail/prison time.
So if someone commits a crime, we shouldn't have a trial, because it will cost too much?

Please note that my responses here are specific to this case and the long term economic impact to this particular community.



And why a private business? Why not go after a chain restaurant? Or a major hotel chain?
Personally I think they should go after any business that is operating illegally. Not sure what difference it makes if it's a chain or single owner.

The big corporations have higher numbers, deeper pockets and higher visibility.


And if his business closes all the taxes and paychecks it provides goes away in that community too. If his long term workers have no record of criminal activities in the form of theft, robbery, violence, etc then they would be good candidates for amnesty. Again, I understand the sentiment of making a public example for political points but am thinking about the economic effects to that community.

IME living in California, the majority of restaurant and hotel workers behind the scenes are immigrants. If most of them were deported there would be a severe labor shortage and potential increase in prices for these goods and services. Most people born and raised here seem to think that working as a maid, janitor, bus person (removing dirty dishes), dishwasher, laundry workers, etc is too hard, too dirty and beneath them.
I think it's just great that you folks in California have this amazingly cheap labor force. But do you honestly think its ok to keep paying them lower wages and offering lousy work conditions just to keep your states bottom line in the black. Don't you care about the thousands of illegals who are being forced into slave labor situations just to keep the cost of fruit down?

If you go back to the original post again, I am being specific to this particular case. If this restaurant owner goes to jail and his business is seized and closed all those people working for him will be unemployed.

Several of my family members have done this kind of work in the past.
I support the reforms for workers and admire the leadership of César Chávez and Dolores Huerta and others who have worked to end exploitation of migrant workers. The current system is not working and needs to be reformed.

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Typically your front of house staff at a restaurant or hotel is US born and the janitors, maids, laundry, etc are immigrants. And this is true for small businesses through the big mega-chains.

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ORIGINAL: cuckoldmepls

Although Obama's popularity began to rise during the campaign when he talked about cancelling NAFTA or at least renegotiating it, it's not likely you will hear another word about it.