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VideoAdminAlpha -> RE: To Collar Me Staff: An Observation (5/29/2010 1:26:38 PM)
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Let me see if I can address some things since the site has been asked for clarification:
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ORIGINAL: ThatDaveGuy69
LadyA:
You've touched upon one of my favorite points of contention with this site: the idea that the staff is all volunteer.
First, How do you know this to be an absolute fact? Are you a member of the staff? Are you close/personal friends with one or more staffers?
I am staff, and YES, we are all volunteers. Some volunteer more time than others due to real life, but EVERY staff member offers their time because of their belief in the site and the caring for the members. So ..that is an absolute fact.
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Second, What does it matter if the staff is paid or not? When you have a job to do you either do it or walk away.
That is correct, and thank goodness we don't do it if we only get kudos or appreciation from its members.
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Third, CM must have someone being paid/making money - they have a lot of ad content and can clearly afford the services of their legal team.
First, I'm not sure if you are aware of the cost of providing bandwidth, storage space etc for one million plus members, but it is not chump change by any means. Second, as far as ad content goes, since you are not paying a membership fee, I'm not sure as to how you consider the amount germane to any statement you are making about volunteers, or income or lack thereof, because again, you are not either a volunteer or paying the bills. Lastly, I'm not sure how or why you bring up the legal team, of which every large website in every genre of life that I'm aware of, has access to one. Not sure I want to know, and will refrain from making any further comment on as to why you may or may not be concerned with that aspect. You, of course are welcome to expand on that if you wish.
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This whole notion of the poor vulonteers stinks like yesterdays diaper. If it truly is an all-volunteer staff then I would put forth that they are fools for expending that much effort without being paid - charity only goes so far...
I'm not so concerned with the re-arrangement/layout but I really wish someone would put some of that programming effort you mention into weeding out the fakes, scams, etc. And I have, in fact, tried to volunteer my time and programming skills to aid in this but have been met buy a brick wall every time. So all the defense of CM in this thread and countless others rings pretty hollow.
~Dave
Not sure if you are calling yourself a fool, but this is the main part of your comments that I would like to address in particular. There is a thread called “Why we don’t allow blacklists: http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=1163969 It’s been referenced in other threads, but here it is specifically because it concerns your offer of volunteering. When you wrote into support, you volunteered to be the Lord and Master of deciding who is fake and a scammer so (if I remember correctly) YOU could make the decision to delete those accounts. That is clearly against site rules, (Feel free to read the link before you proceed). Why you are surprised that you were “met with a brick wall” because we decided not to utilize your services to break our own guidelines basically amazes me. It’s not like you got the answer of “If you are a middle aged short balding guy ,you should not be surprised that the young hot women you write to write back and demand money to talk to you”.(Not that the site would EVER say that, but I have seen some members post that answer on some scammer threads, you understand). You did not volunteer to help CM in any capacity needed, as all of our present staff members did, but only in the one area you felt you had a vested interest in. There are many volunteers who don’t get the “glory” of posting on the threads as moderators or administrators, and ALL of the present moderators and administrators started off doing something mundane and dreary for CM and were promoted to the present positions they hold. Most that write in to volunteer are not willing to do the same, which is why in part they are not chosen, We only pick the REALLY foolish ones,[;)] and those not looking for kudos, because that is not what they usually get unfortunately.
Last, and this is to everyone: suggestions are welcomed always, but the most efficient way to make them is through the support link and the subject of “feature suggestion” picked as was stated previously. It is easier for us to keep track of them, and that way the departments that need to see them do, since those people may or may not read or participate on the boards.
I’m sorry this is so long, but as some of you know, I was a CM cheerleader long before I became staff, or administration, and felt I needed to address this.
I'm sure there have been many other posts since I have been composing this, so that is why this is all I have addressed. It is also all I intend to address about this subject.
edited to add the smiley face
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