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Living life without a 24/7 relationship - 6/3/2010 1:46:36 AM   
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For nearly four years I've not been in a 24/7 relationship, this is the longest stretch of time that I've gone without being 24/7 with somebody. In many regards, it's given me time for myself which was much needed. However at the same time, I miss the structure and responsibilities involved of a 24/7 relationship. The whole belonging and being in charge of a family unit. I wake up each day to me, myself and I. While work gives me a sense of purpose, it's not the same. Performing music out live for people does not even give me the same sense of purpose. My friendships and social life, don't lend itself to giving me the same sense either. I'm alone but not really alone.

Being on your own should be a good thing, right? Gives one time to explore themself, recoup or whatever else. I've been involved with somebody LD for awhile now. This year I finally went and have seen her three times now. Which is a good thing.

This might sound rather ironic, but when I'm involved with somebody 24/7, when I'm in a situation where I'm doing more, I seem to be more organized driven and structured in many things. Some of these things, to be honest, I'm a little dumb founded why I have slacked off some. Like for tonight for instance. I'm wide awake and can't sleep. There's nobody to miss me being in bed or not. In fact, when I do go to bed all that is there to great me are my pillows and blankets. Perhaps the cat might visit me. Actually, it's about time for the cat to hunt me down for a 4:30 am visit. The cat is sort of like clockwork. However, I'll pet it for bit it will be purring and rubbing up against me. Yeah, okay...

I'm sitting here sort of wondering what direction my LD relationship is going to take. The kind of stuff that nobody has any answers for on the message board here anyways. There's been a lot of things going on this last month that have been crazy. My father passed away, and there's this sense of mortality of life. I'm sitting and wondering about what kind of legacy I'm going to leave behind me if any when I myself pass away. Perhaps, very little to nothing.

This becomes rather difficult for me to think about. In some regards my 7 and a half year relationship, left me with a partial sense of having left a legacy or mark. Children tend to be our legacy in a sense, the time spent with them, cultivating and teaching and encouraging them to grow and etc.. In a few more weeks, it will have been a year, since the oldest boy from that relationship, hung himself, He had enlisted before he got out of high school and went off to fight the war in Iraq. Needless to say he went off, but when he came back, part of him never came back. Something aweful involving the death of kids happened in something he was involved with and it messed him up literally. Now he's gone. This is most difficult for me at times, because of having put so much of myself into him. Then again, this is what us adults are supposed to do with children.

I'm really not certain what the topic of this thread should be about, it's all sort of connected to a sense of legacy, purpose and 24/7 relationship stuff. Perhaps this is about things I'm rather uncertain about. Directions and what is ahead of me for the rest of my own breathing days on the face of this earth.

I've been pretty rock solid and not falling apart over things, my life has not ground to some hault. This is sort of depressing, but I'm not laying in bed depressed, and I enjoy things. I'm a little puzzled as to why I'm not curled up in a closest somewhere drawing on the walls with purple crayons right about now.

I know none of this has a damn thing to do with BDSM or kink even, so I'm posting this in the "off topic" area. My cat is rubbing up against my feet now, I suppose I could sit here and talk to my cat expressing the same shit. But Nah... that just ain't gonna cut it. I should be in bed sleeping, but ummm.. what for at the moment. I don't have to work until the afternoon tomorrow anyways, so yeah does not really matter if I stay up late or not.

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RE: Living life without a 24/7 relationship - 6/3/2010 2:45:45 AM   
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I think losing your kid is beating you down alot more than you think. That is one of the hardest things any human ever has to deal with, and how much it is affecting you now is anyone's guess because I don't have a timetable. While it matters if it was Iraq 1991 or now, this type of loss might not ever be completely recoverable. However people do live on.

So perhaps your solitude would be much more enjoyable without this loss. I lived alone for about fifteen years and loved every minute of it. Sure I always had plenty of friends, and my family is great, so great in fact they know when to leave me alone.

When I actually let it out, the mourning of one of my best friend's passing (watch out for those trees that jump out in front of your car), it was untimely. Another friend had just left and I was sitting on the floor and yelled "You dumb motherfucker, why didn't you learn how to drive ? ". Shit like that. I was supposed to be alone but another was still in the hallway, and came back up to check on me. I got PISSED, VERY PISSED. I considered it a violation of my privacy.

You must have at least some friends and family. Then when you get bored, learn somthing. You got online and you got us, but you also have Google and all that. Someday you might find yourself so engrossed in a subject when people show up you will tell them to hang on while you finish reading something. This results in self betterment and very rarely is that negative, even to the people you might snub off for a few minutes.

I think without your loss you would have alot easier time adjusting to live alone, I enjoyed the living shit out of it, I could walk around naked, or in chains, or whatever I wanted as long as I had curtains on the windows. I could do anything I wanted, I could crank up The Archies - Sugar Sugar at 400 watts. I could watch videos of hemaphrodites without external comment and draw my own conclusion. I could set me a steak on fire for thirty one point two seconds at 4 AM if I pleased. I could shoot my gun any time day or night. And I could do gross things, as long as the door was locked. (that apartment is extremely secure)

Now I have roomies, and I can sense the loss. I like the companionship, I really do, but in life certain things are mutually exclusive. So be it.

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RE: Living life without a 24/7 relationship - 6/3/2010 3:00:19 AM   
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As far as being alone being a good thing, I think that varies on the person. I'm content being alone, I usually prefer living alone but I certainly want to share my life. So as Term points out, there are benefits on either side, only you know where the pendulum swings for you.

You've had alot of trauma in your life. I'm very sorry to hear about it. The fact that you aren't falling apart doesn't mean that you aren't suffering from it. Who wouldn't? One of the wisest things someone ever taught me was to be kind to myself and accept where I am today and what I am today and know that it is good enough. Quite simply, you'll get there when you do. Grief can have a profound impact on your life, give it as much time as you need. Death always makes us question our own mortality, I think that's pretty common.

I would suggest that maybe this post is a sign that you are getting to the point of being ready again or maybe you just need support. I sure as hell would. But in the end I certainly don't know, only you do. I do know this, my mailbox is open should you need a symathetic ear.



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RE: Living life without a 24/7 relationship - 6/3/2010 6:04:54 AM   
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I am sorry for your losses.

We all touch people. That is our legacy. If those are positive touches, we make the world a better place.

What you tell about your late son gives me the impression that he paid with his life to compensate for a wrong he participated in. That is honorable intent at least. I am sorry that he saw no other option and perhaps by counseling was offered no other option.

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RE: Living life without a 24/7 relationship - 6/3/2010 6:15:27 AM   
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RE: Living life without a 24/7 relationship - 6/4/2010 2:32:23 AM   
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Regardless of what some people might think, we all need others in our lives to care for and who care for us. It sounds like you have had some horrible losses and being alone makes them all the more difficult. A long distance relationship just doesn't keep you warm at night or cuddle with you when you are sad.

Hang in there. Sounds like your bout of insomnia has you feeling the loss and lonliness more than usual. My condolences on the loss of your son, and my sympathy on the insomnia. I suffer from it nearly every night.

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RE: Living life without a 24/7 relationship - 6/4/2010 3:51:37 AM   
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Whiplash - what you are feeling and saying are completely normal and totally understandable. You've had some horrible trauma in your life, and the natural thing is to want to reach out for comfort. It's also natural to crave control at these times, to compensate for the control you didn't have with the loss of your father and your son.

Now is not the time to make snap decisions. Your LD relationship sounds as if you're enjoying it (in less troubled times), but is not fulfilling you right at this moment because of the distance. Hold on to this relationship - you need to know that you really matter to people, and the person at the other end of the relationship is one of those people.

Never forget how special you are in this world. Without knowing it, you will have touched the lives of many people. Without your presence, they would not be the people they are. You will continue to touch people's lives - that is an amazing gift you are yet to give.

Without wanting to sound like an echo, maybe it's time to find someone to talk to? Grief counsellors are wonderful people, and I know (from experience) they can make a huge difference.

If you want to talk offline, feel free to mail me on the other side and I will add myself to the ever-growing list of people who care about you and wish you well x

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RE: Living life without a 24/7 relationship - 6/4/2010 4:40:15 AM   
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I can definitly empathise with the OP.  While I haven't gone through anything as dreadful as losing one of my kids (and god forbid I ever have to go through that) I DO understand the feeling of waking up every morning with no purpose in life.No-one there depending on me as I do them. noone to share my dreams, observations and thoughts with, or to have theirs shared with me.

I have been that way for a long time now, and while there was a big area of time where being alone suited me just fine, now I find myself craving a D/s dynamic. Not to the point of desperation, more to the point of it being now my main goal that i want to achieve before i can move on to my next goal.

The wait is frustrating, but I know that good things take time.  Hopefully, if I'm lucky, not too much time but still, it's not something you can do instantly.

I wish you luck in your search and hope that for you there are better times ahead.


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RE: Living life without a 24/7 relationship - 6/4/2010 5:37:14 AM   
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Whip it kind of sounds like you are asking some of the "big"questions in life eg. why am I here, what is the purpose, what will I leave behind.  Not being in a 24/7 relationship may be making these questions seem more urgent due to having no one to bounce all of these thoughts off.

You are about to come up to the 1st anniversary of your son's death.  I am sure no parent ever imagines they will have an anniversary such as this, I know my parents still can't believe they outlived one of their children (my brother suicided as well).  You are grieving both your father and your son, your past and your future - so it is not surprising that you have many questions.

I wish I could offer answers however I don't have any.  All I can offer are my thoughts and care and remind you to be gentle on yourself and to reach out to your friends and family for support.  You may not be in a 24/7 relationship however I am sure you are not alone.


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RE: Living life without a 24/7 relationship - 6/4/2010 5:46:24 AM   
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hoping your feeling better today

i know how you feel.
hang in there
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RE: Living life without a 24/7 relationship - 6/4/2010 5:52:25 AM   
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i feel as if You are saying, and the reason You are writting this morning, is because like alot of us that are not in a relationship, You are missing having someone to TALK to and SHARE with.. this is the hardest part for me.. no one waiting in bed.. no one to just say .. GOD I HAD A SHITTY DAY! and they care and make us feel better even if its just by being there to hear that. At least You have SOME sort of relatinoship happening where someone is thinking about You and caring... to some extent. Sounds as if You only need to make it happen and start living it!
The ache is deep and the need for us to share life with someone and feel JOy is strong.
We are Not born to be alone.... i have the same focus problem when not in a 24/7 relationship and alot of ppl seem to think i should be able to Do It All on my own.. but .. then i wouldnt Need the guidence of a strong Master or His knowledge or love...and then well i wouldnt be me.
i think alot of us are the same way.

And So.... it is really Nice that we have the forums to go to and share a thought or ask a question and people seem to care and respond.
Thank You for sharing... and letting me at least know that others are out there feeling the same thing!

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RE: Living life without a 24/7 relationship - 6/4/2010 7:04:28 AM   
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I also find that it isn't JUST the someone to talk to thing... it is the emotions involved, the love, the understanding and the compassion that you only get in a relationship that is my biggest thing missing... having to know that there is so much inside of me that simply needs a person to  be given to.

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RE: Living life without a 24/7 relationship - 6/4/2010 7:39:57 AM   
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Perhaps I am lucky in that, I get everything I need from other relationships. The lack of intimacy of sex does mean I do not have very intimate and supportive relationships. Just because I don't have a lover/slave/submissive in my life does not mean I could even begin to consider a LD relationship that wasn't certain to be 24/7. It wouldn't give me what I want. To do so would be like eating that nasty waxy fake chocolate and trying to pretend it's the real deal. No way.

I cannot imagine how losing one of my children or grands would impact my life so I cannot speak from that perspective. I just know that I feel so fortunate to have the relationships I do have and the joy loving these people (and fur babies) brings to my life.

I cannot imagine waking up in the morning, wondering what my purpose is.

I probably didn't really add anything of value for you Whip. My apologies if that is the case. You are just dealing with stuff outside my scope of imagining. I do wish you the best and hope things get better for you.


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RE: Living life without a 24/7 relationship - 6/4/2010 7:45:39 AM   
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I have nothing to add that hasnt been said.. but *big, long hugs*

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RE: Living life without a 24/7 relationship - 6/4/2010 7:54:17 AM   
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Only thing I can really add is take the time to remember the good times and spend that time with others who are also close to you.

The lifestyle will wait. right now you need to deal with yourself for a while.

I sincerely wish you luck and strength during this time and I'm sure that i speak for most of us here when I say that although we can be very little help, we are still here to vent to or talk if you feel you need to.


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RE: Living life without a 24/7 relationship - 6/4/2010 10:10:47 AM   
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quote:

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Now is not the time to make snap decisions. Your LD relationship sounds as if you're enjoying it (in less troubled times), but is not fulfilling you right at this moment because of the distance. Hold on to this relationship - you need to know that you really matter to people, and the person at the other end of the relationship is one of those people.


At the moment, things are not as good as they should be with my LD relationship. This last month onward, she's been dealing with a lot of family issues and issues herself. I am not even certain to the full extent of things going on in her life at the moment. She does not want to talk about those things very much. She's feeling extremely overwhelmed and a bit sick of dealing with so much, again all issues with her own family and perhaps other issues. I'm left a little out of the loop for the details.

While I'm not wanting to dump all my issues out on here either (hell, I've been keeping a lot of this stuff to myself). What is more less hurting me at the moment, is that she's been withdrawn. I'd be much more settled in things, if we had more communication like we were having before. It's a little rough to go from 3-4 phone calls a day down to 2 phone conversations a week that are extremely short.

I'm a little torn between trying to understand that she is overwhelmed and has a lot of issues going on (the depth unknown to me) and feeling like I'm simply not that important of a person to her. I'm feeling rather lost and confused at the moment. Have expressed this in text messages to her. The last four weeks has been rather stressful not being able to get a grip on what is actually going on.

I am trying to be patient and understanding, yet at the same time. I find myself not liking the lack of communication. I would be way more at ease if we at least had idle bullshit chit chat conversation about sublime stuff at the very least. The withdrawn state she's currently in is unsettling for me.

So at this point in time, my LD relationship is troubled by unknowns and things I myself not fully understand.

In light of the losses in my life, because last fall my best friend was killed in a car accident on his birthday. He was the most amazing friend in the whole wide world I have ever known. (it's been a little difficult for me). Every time I go out to the bars around here, people keep bringing up his name. It's rather difficult for it not to happen because he truely was loved by many people. He was the bass player in the last band I was in. There's this strong social or mental connection people have.

Anyways, my point is that, I find myself being drawn to maintain a closeness in my relationships now. Be it with my half sisters and brother, other family members and my friendships.. you name it. It's sort of like, not taking things for granted anymore. Not taking these relationships with people that mean so much for granted.

My mother and I had a long conversation after my fathers death. Mind you they had divorced shortly after I was born. Anyways, here and I were talking at length. Because sincerely in the last 12 monthes it seems like it's been filled with a lot of deaths. It's almost fucking surreal. My best friends death was not the only friend I lost. Another friend also was killed in an accident, another one finally lost his battle with leukemia. My great uncle who was an amazing man passed away. A girl I had once been close friends was found dead in a parking lot from a drug overdose (her life had been pretty screwed up, wrote about her one time on a thread that got removed from here, it was not a thread I started mind you). Needless to say. This last year ain't been no picnic.

On the humours side of things, I've been telling everybody now, that they need my permission before they die now. Nobody is allowed to die unless they have my fucking permission.

So my issue is that in light of all this loss, I'm not having a hard time dealing with her withdrawn behavior and how sparse communication has become in the last month between her and I. I'm a little uneasy and yeah, I not know what the hell to make of things.

Should I or should I not be secure or insecure about whatever is going on. I seriously ask myself that question. Hell, I'm not fully certain what the Hell is going on. I just know that whatever is going on, it's effecting communication between her and I.

I'm having to embrace a lot of gray or unknown things, which is not the easiest thing for me to do. I do know that something has to give sooner or later. Right now, is not the time for me to make snap decisions over certain things in life. I'm trying as best as I can to humanly "hang tough", but there are moments that test and try that.

The only saving grace is that, I have endured some pretty traumatic moments already in my life time. Trust me, without having gone through those experiences, I'd probally literally be a fucking train wreck about now.

My EX is a fucking mess over what happened, she's on medication and is still on a leave of absense from work. Her and I have talked some at length over him hanging himself and how the war fucked him up. She's married now, so we don't talk that much. None the less we are on good terms with one another and always have been. In some regards, this sounds twisted, I sort of feeling guilty that I'm not as a big of mess or wreck that she is at the moment (hope that makes sense).

I am very thankful for the people still around and in my life very much so, I'm thankful for every day and every breath I take. In so many ways, all this just makes me want to live even more. To actually live and not simply exist. To live and to embrace those close to me and not take shit for fucking granted. I'm anything but withdrawn at this moment, which is in stark contrast to the girl I'm involved with in this LD relationship. It's just a matter of time before I stick my keys in the ignition switch and take a 4 hour drive. I'm not certain if that's the best thing to do or not. I know she'll be upset if I show up unannounced with all the stuff that's going on in here life.

I know there's not really any good solid advice anybody can really give me. I'm really not looking for advice, I guess this thread is much better compared to me talking to my cat right about now. I don't want to talk any of my friends ears off about this crap either, because there ain't much they can do.

In so many ways, I'm surrounded by people. I'm feeling alone but I ain't really alone. There is however something missing at the moment and it ain't easy.

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RE: Living life without a 24/7 relationship - 6/4/2010 10:52:01 AM   
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Way back in the 1980's, at my first office job, I went into my manager's desk for something and saw a file that said "Strokes".  I asked her what it was (no, it wasn't what you think, you bunch o' pervs).  She told me it was nice things that people said about her, and she took it out and read it when she needed to.

Ever since then, I've kept a strokes file.  When I start thinking about the big picture and the big questions (the "does anybody really care if I'm here" and "will anybody know I was ever here when my time comes" sort of questions), I pull out the folder and start reading it.  It's sort of a George Bailey in A Wonderful Life type of thing.  I keep the most touching sentiments at the front of the folder, and it usually only takes a few minutes strolling down memory lane to re-center myself.

You might consider something similar.

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RE: Living life without a 24/7 relationship - 6/4/2010 1:49:53 PM   
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quote:

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At the moment, things are not as good as they should be with my LD relationship. This last month onward, she's been dealing with a lot of family issues and issues herself. I am not even certain to the full extent of things going on in her life at the moment. She does not want to talk about those things very much. She's feeling extremely overwhelmed and a bit sick of dealing with so much, again all issues with her own family and perhaps other issues. I'm left a little out of the loop for the details.

While I'm not wanting to dump all my issues out on here either (hell, I've been keeping a lot of this stuff to myself). What is more less hurting me at the moment, is that she's been withdrawn. I'd be much more settled in things, if we had more communication like we were having before. It's a little rough to go from 3-4 phone calls a day down to 2 phone conversations a week that are extremely short.

I'm a little torn between trying to understand that she is overwhelmed and has a lot of issues going on (the depth unknown to me) and feeling like I'm simply not that important of a person to her. I'm feeling rather lost and confused at the moment. Have expressed this in text messages to her. The last four weeks has been rather stressful not being able to get a grip on what is actually going on.

I am trying to be patient and understanding, yet at the same time. I find myself not liking the lack of communication. I would be way more at ease if we at least had idle bullshit chit chat conversation about sublime stuff at the very least. The withdrawn state she's currently in is unsettling for me.

So at this point in time, my LD relationship is troubled by unknowns and things I myself not fully understand.



Do you have the ability to see her physically right now? If not in person, cam or something? It's really hard in LDRs for me to maintain a sense of presence at times. It's possible finding a way to reaffirm that link might help. Then again, I have no idea what she's dealing with right now and you're quite obviously dealing with a tremendous amount of stuff as well.

I hate to be the one that says the token "get counseling" line, but your comment that you keep this all to yourself worries me. Grief can be incredibly pervasive and you've taken some MAJOR hits on the stress and emotional scale. Have you thought about a support group or finding someone to talk to? I agree that you can't dump all your stuff on a relationship and expect good results, but it seems she's not communicating at all...maybe she's trying to do what you are and deal with it alone?

Sorry, I really feel for you, I wish I could offer more than possibilities, but obviously, you know what's best for you.

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RE: Living life without a 24/7 relationship - 6/4/2010 2:29:42 PM   
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Sometimes people focus at times like there are on the immediate family.  not that they have forgotten about you, but that they are caught up  in sharing memories and stories, councilling each other.  hard times make you turn to your family you've done it, and she's doing it.

What you need to be right now is a strongER shoulder to cry on.   just be there when she needs you.. she still calls so you aren't forgotten but her world is entirely upside down right now


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RE: Living life without a 24/7 relationship - 6/4/2010 4:57:38 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4

Being on your own should be a good thing, right? Gives one time to explore themself, recoup or whatever else. I've been involved with somebody LD for awhile now. This year I finally went and have seen her three times now. Which is a good thing.

Yes, it can be a good thing.  Years I spent by myself were okay, but...the loneliest times I spent in my life were when I was with someone else.  One relationship was local, but we both had two full time jobs and I also left all the deciding up to him (no, he wasn't married or with someone else), but he chose to see me only once every 2 or 3 weeks.  At one job, our shifts overlapped and we saw each other almost every day and had to act like we barely knew each other or risk getting fired.  That "being together, but not quite TOGETHER" feeling is lonely as H***.  With all the things going on in your life, part of you might need her physical presence to help get through this. 

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This might sound rather ironic, but when I'm involved with somebody 24/7, when I'm in a situation where I'm doing more, I seem to be more organized driven and structured in many things. Some of these things, to be honest, I'm a little dumb founded why I have slacked off some. Like for tonight for instance. I'm wide awake and can't sleep. There's nobody to miss me being in bed or not. In fact, when I do go to bed all that is there to greet me are my pillows and blankets.

Those last two sentences clearly spell out that you're feeling lonely.  When I'm with someone, I've got more power that has a ripple effect that spreads out and affects all parts of my life.  I don't need something like caffiene.  With me, it doesn't take more than daily online or telephone contact, and enjoying that person's r/t company whenever possible even if it's only once per month or two, to have this energy boost and "feel more organized and driven."  In my opinion, you need to get your daily contact back on track, if doing so would help. 

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I'm sitting here sort of wondering what direction my LD relationship is going to take. The kind of stuff that nobody has any answers for on the message board here anyways.

Some people are worth knowing...at almost any cost to self.  She might be one of these people.  On the other hand, wouldn't some basic animal side of one's nature be upset if after SEVEN LONG YEARS, you haven't managed to have your mate literally by your side?  Your inner beast must be a lot more patient than mine. 

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There's been a lot of things going on this last month that have been crazy. My father passed away, and there's this sense of mortality of life. I'm sitting and wondering about what kind of legacy I'm going to leave behind me if any when I myself pass away. Perhaps, very little to nothing.

I am sorry to hear about your father.  People I have been very close to have died over the years, and the first few without them are the hardest...especially those unexpected sad anniversaries that keep cropping up.  The first Christmas afterward, their birthdays, Memorial Day, etc.  I was really knocked on my arse this Memorial Day weekend, and for the past two Christmases (my friend died on Dec. 24th, two of them ago, and my favorite aunt died this January).  January was bad for me before, because that's when my friend, Carin, was diagnosed with Lymphoma, and now January is like hearing some terrible bell tolling in the distance.  I know from past experience it will take me a few years to feel differently, and in the meantime I have to force happiness into these bad times to keep my balance.  I watch comedies instead of dramas, etc.  Some things are very sore points with me, that bring everything back and are so hurtful.  Anything to do with young soldiers, PTSD, suicides, or death by hanging might give you sleepless nights for a few years.  Please find some support for this, there have to be some grief support groups in your area.  One of our friends, many years back when my son was just a toddler, killed herself around Christmas time.  Mom and I grieved and blamed ourselves for somehow not knowing this would happen and somehow preventing this, and it was so hard to stop second guessing everything to death and taking blame.  The problem with being a survivor is that you live long enough to watch friends and family die.  We need the presence of loved ones to get through this, as well as having time to ourselves.  About legacies...if this bothers you, then think up something and do it.  When I faced death, I worried about who would finish raising my son and watch over him instead of putting him into some group home.  Everything else I had to let go of because most legacies are things...that won't even be remembered a thousand years from now.  Trying to leave some legacy behind after I was gone...only tied my gut up in knots until I learned to let go.  Life is for the living, and those who pass on before us are now memories that we can still love, honor, and try to live up to.

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Children tend to be our legacy in a sense, the time spent with them, cultivating and teaching and encouraging them to grow and etc.. In a few more weeks, it will have been a year, since the oldest boy from that relationship, hung himself, He had enlisted before he got out of high school and went off to fight the war in Iraq. Needless to say he went off, but when he came back, part of him never came back. Something aweful involving the death of kids happened in something he was involved with and it messed him up literally. Now he's gone. This is most difficult for me at times, because of having put so much of myself into him. Then again, this is what us adults are supposed to do with children.

That poor boy.  I'm sorry about your grief, your loss.  This is the first anniversary of his death that you have to get through.  When he died, a part of you died with him, the part you had invested in him for all these years.  Life has a ripple effect...what you invested of yourself into him was passed on to other people he knew as he grew up.  You will probably never know if something you said or did saved someone's life or helped them to change the direction of their life...for the better.  Each of us leaves a legacy on other people's lives that we're often not even aware of.  Knowing this doesn't help much through these "sad anniversaries"...so go do something.  Put flowers on his grave and have a talk with him there, phone his mother and both of you grieve together, and if you can, talk with his siblings.  All of you share the same grief.

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I'm really not certain what the topic of this thread should be about, it's all sort of connected to a sense of legacy, purpose and 24/7 relationship stuff. Perhaps this is about things I'm rather uncertain about. Directions and what is ahead of me for the rest of my own breathing days on the face of this earth.

A lot of threads at this site are not about BDSM...though the soldier boy might have been helped if he had been kinky and tied up by someone who made him talk about everything, and punish him physically until he felt purged and at peace with himself.  This, as well as forcing him to join some kind of support group or therapy.  This is just my own twisted opinion, because sometimes talking about things doesn't quite purge all the ugly.  Sometimes we need a sounding board...even if people like me might come up with the most asinine "solutions" sometimes, others say things that are helpful.  I would be so bored here if people locked away all other aspects of their lives and opinions except for the ones that directly involved BDSM.
 
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I've been pretty rock solid and not falling apart over things, my life has not ground to some hault. This is sort of depressing, but I'm not laying in bed depressed, and I enjoy things. I'm a little puzzled as to why I'm not curled up in a closest somewhere drawing on the walls with purple crayons right about now.

My inner child loves closets and purple crayons <grins>, but there are times in life when we get through it by enduring it one step at a time.  Sometimes, blessed numbness helps me get through things, while at others I might be happy and sad all at the same time, when I feel I should be sad and kinda guilty to also feel happy.  Take Memorial Day weekend for example.  I missed intensely the ones who had died, but...there was also a fair in town and I had fun and watched fireworks.  I kept thinking of Carin at odd moments while at the fair, especially during the fireworks. 

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I know none of this has a damn thing to do with BDSM or kink even, so I'm posting this in the "off topic" area. My cat is rubbing up against my feet now, I suppose I could sit here and talk to my cat expressing the same shit. But Nah... that just ain't gonna cut it. I should be in bed sleeping, but ummm.. what for at the moment. I don't have to work until the afternoon tomorrow anyways, so yeah does not really matter if I stay up late or not.

You did right.  The Mods didn't have to move your thread to a different area of the message boards.   Cats can be funny creatures...whenever I'm upset mine pile up on my lap demanding to be petted for what seems like hours, and sometimes this makes me feel better.  I have 6, and one of them is a huge black male who weighs a ton (so okay, 16 lbs when I got him, lol).  At other times, when I have insomnia, I wander around through the message boards reading until my eyes get bleary and I'm almost falling to sleep. 
 
I've enjoyed reading your comments in other threads, you are very patient with other people and kind.
 
I've made yet another "epic post," but I did limit myself to responding only to the OP's opening post.    Some people won't touch posts this long with a ten foot pole. 

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