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Disappearing acts - 4/10/2006 6:47:56 PM   
PenelopePitstop


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Well, perhaps this has been asked before, and I am in no way interested in starting a flame war - I would just like to know  : have you ever done what is popularly termed a disappearing act, and why?

I'm a great believer in that there are reasons for everything we do, and sometimes people do not do things the way they know should be done, but I would really like to know. Mainly so I can avoid causing anyone else to disappear on me :(




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RE: Disappearing acts - 4/10/2006 6:52:12 PM   
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nonononononono.......you are a real person...

you know how to play this game...

Have you? Let's start there. Show me yours and then I will show you mine...

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RE: Disappearing acts - 4/10/2006 6:53:17 PM   
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Naaa nothing you can do.  I had a great first date a few weeks ago- we'd emailed and phoned all week, had a fabulous night, resulting in naked and bed fun, both agreed with eachother through the night that we were having a great time and wanted to do it again.

Then- poof, nada.

Luckily I didn't have anything really invested in it- and that was purposeful.  Leaps of trust should come in small batches- immediately backed up with assuring actions.  It still always sucks when the leaps fail- but you move on.

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RE: Disappearing acts - 4/10/2006 6:58:52 PM   
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Ah the painful song of a control addict. The truth is we cannot control anyone but ourselves, and on a bad day some of us cannot handle that task.

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RE: Disappearing acts - 4/10/2006 7:31:14 PM   
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Damn...does this mean I'd make a better Domme?

It's not so much about control, it's got a hell of a lot more to do with me being convinced that I'm a shit and uninteresting person that everyone is going to one day leave.




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RE: Disappearing acts - 4/10/2006 7:54:59 PM   
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Oh I doubt you are a shit, and while some people will leave you (with varying degrees of warning) others will not. Do not let one person's actions poison the rest of the world for you.
As to your question...No I have not. I have wanted to on a few occaisions, but I have not. I do the right thing and end it in a nice messy way.

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RE: Disappearing acts - 4/10/2006 8:59:37 PM   
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Ah the painful song of a control addict. The truth is we cannot control anyone but ourselves, and on a bad day some of us cannot handle that task.
..shoot...am getting so tired of so many smart people beating me to a good answer...grrr...(grin)...sighs..ok gotta go with cloudz on this one.....Tempting

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RE: Disappearing acts - 4/11/2006 3:34:44 AM   
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You asked what you could do to keep someone from leaving you one day...the answer still is you cannot control another person' s actions.

If you want to know how to build your self esteem, bounce back from a disappointment, survive a loss of a relationship you thought was "it", be a perfect sub so no one will ever leave you...well, those are different threads.

Be well,

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RE: Disappearing acts - 4/11/2006 5:23:57 AM   
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I have to say, that for me, having had several people do the disappearing act, it devastated me.  I keep people at arm's length because of it.  The first kinky guy I was with did the disappearing act.  There were other factors there--he had warned me he didn't do clingy and we'd only been together about a month, and I normally didn't, but something no one could predict, expect, control happened that broke apart my life and he saw me crying and left. It devastated me, although 'it' was both the event and getting dumped, in fact the event was the only thing I was really aware of devastating me at the time.  Getting dumped seemed so trivial in comparision, but in the last few months I realized I didn't try to do kinky again until this year--almost 5 years laster, and I'm so scared that someone will strip me down to my vulnerabilities and either not like what he sees or something I can't handle will happen again.  I feel like I have more boundaries and armor because of this, even though I know I should really try to do the opposite.

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RE: Disappearing acts - 4/11/2006 5:42:27 AM   
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Ya know i spent NEW YEARS eve with someone and he was "in love" we chat for a week later and then  nothing.... I dont get ppl and ya know all they have to do is say bye or fuck you and anything..... Sad but its all the net my friend has girls do it all the time to him.....

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RE: Disappearing acts - 4/11/2006 6:55:43 AM   
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quote:

It's not so much about control, it's got a hell of a lot more to do with me being convinced that I'm a shit and uninteresting person that everyone is going to one day leave.


This is the part that concerns me.  You have to have love and belief in yourself before you can offer anything of yourself to another person, be they vanilla or BDSM lifestylers.  Have faith in the person you are, in your heart and your nature.  You will find, that people are much more attracted to self confidence, even in a submissive.

Just remember that you are worthy, and the rest will take care of itself.

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RE: Disappearing acts - 4/11/2006 6:59:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: PenelopePitstop

Damn...does this mean I'd make a better Domme?

It's not so much about control, it's got a hell of a lot more to do with me being convinced that I'm a shit and uninteresting person that everyone is going to one day leave.






keep thinking this and it will become true

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RE: Disappearing acts - 4/11/2006 7:14:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Cloudz

You asked what you could do to keep someone from leaving you one day...the answer still is you cannot control another person' s actions.

If you want to know how to build your self esteem, bounce back from a disappointment, survive a loss of a relationship you thought was "it", be a perfect sub so no one will ever leave you...well, those are different threads.

Be well,


Well that's fair enough. Obviously I don't really want to be a control freak. And I don't actually mind being left because it would be unrealistic to expect not to be. but I DO feel the human need to have a reason. It's when there's apparently no reason that the insecurity demons eat me alive. With kinky relationships, there just seems so much at stake, it gets me so deeply. So naturally I want to learn.

Now where are the confessions, people???


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RE: Disappearing acts - 4/11/2006 7:42:52 AM   
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I try to love, now, with "an open hand, rather than a clenched fist".

The open hand can truly love; the clenched fist only strangles, suffocates, and eventually can kill.

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RE: Disappearing acts - 4/11/2006 7:49:43 AM   
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I try to love, now, with "an open hand, rather than a clenched fist".

The open hand can truly love; the clenched fist only strangles, suffocates, and eventually can kill.


unless your into breath play .. ok ok Joking.

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RE: Disappearing acts - 4/11/2006 8:39:19 AM   
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Ive never been fond of the term "disappearing act", because he is certainly not acting when he disappears, he means it, so its silly to persue it. The real acting came before he disappeared at all.

I don't think there is a lot you can do about it. But I don't think its really about you. Its about *them*, its their problem, their loss.

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RE: Disappearing acts - 4/11/2006 8:45:57 AM   
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Ive never been fond of the term "disappearing act", because he is certainly not acting when he disappears, he means it, so its silly to persue it. The real acting came before he disappeared at all.

Maybe this perspective will help.  The term "disappearing act" isn't meant to imply that a person is acting/pretending to disappear, but is just a description of "an act of disappearing." 

Similarly think of "magic act" or "music act."  They aren't pretending to do those things, it's simply a shortened form of "an act for music."  Different use of the word.

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RE: Disappearing acts - 4/11/2006 9:39:39 AM   
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It could be about them and also about you.  Maybe you need to rethink your "seeking" (I hate that word) strategies.  Maybe you are focusing on the wrong things or moving too fast.  Perhaps you are choosing the wrong people.   There will be people who can't face the truth or their life  and their choices, regardless of lifestyle.  The disappearing act  isn't a lifestyle issue, as much as people seem to make it one.  It's an issue of people and their dysfuction.

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RE: Disappearing acts - 4/11/2006 9:58:51 AM   
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 even tho ppl dont like it, i have done the "act" many times... ppl like me, we just have enuf or we feel we can no longer live as we are at that time, so we just pack up and go...
to understand why we do this, i have no answer for that other than maybe being scared of something that might could happen or go wrong...
actually, i am famous for my disappering acts... just ask 4 of my men... ;).... they were in no way good for me so i just up and left with no notice or goodbye.... peace out and maybe one day, ppl can understand...

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RE: Disappearing acts - 4/11/2006 2:42:13 PM   
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The term "disappearing act" and how it is being used here seems to be a very negative thing - and often it is, or can be.

But sometimes, it's the only way to either slow down a relationship, or make a break.  While I've never intentionally "pulled" a disappearing act i.e. total lack of communications with no explanation of why, I betcha that there are several people who THINK I have, both in cyber-space and in the real world.

In the real world, I haven't done anything close to what you'd describe as a dissapearing act since I was about 18 years old, and it was a "dating" relationship so I'm not sure it really applies.

On the 'net, over time, I've lost track of a fair number of people, generally due to smaller, and slower contacts over time, and often because of a hard drive or program failure where I'd lose all my contacts (ICQ was bad about this) or such.

But in the last three years or so, I've had a couple of situations where I've had someone think I've pulled a disappearing act.

One sticks out in my mind.

On another forum, I was a regular poster for several months, and one day saw a nick that got my attention, because it was cute, intelligent, and a play on words   So I sent the person a PM, telling her that I liked it.  No intent to do anything other than recognize another intelligent mind.

Turns out she was a submissive women about 2000 miles away from me, in another country.  We ended up emailing back and forth, and then exchanged IM's and started chatting occasionally.  She was a literate, smart and shy. 

I convinced her to join the conversations on the forum there, and got her to open up, and analyze herself (she had a couple of websites with writings and poetry, but it was all emotion based, with little analytical thought about herself).  I introduced her to several other women online who shared her interests, and gave her advice about dating.

We were friends, nothing more, with never any talk about making it more, although we once discussed the possiblities of meeting when I was near her for a business trip.  We had specifically talked about our relationship, and that it was never to be anything more than "chat buddies" and "forum friends".

But over time she came to rely on me more and more.  I couldn't get on the computer (and I'm on the computer a lot) without her "barging in" and starting a long conversation, even when my status said "Busy".  I'd even tell her that I couldn't chat ... but she'd be back in 5 minutes.  And then in 10 minutes.  And then in 20 minutes.

Finally, I started to put myself on invisible whenever I got online, and only visible when I had time for her.

Then she started to say things to some of our mutual friends that indicated that she felt like I ... belonged to her, that "we" were an "item" ... warning them off.  These were the very woman that I had introduced her too, and with whom I had long time 'net relationships with.

I tried talking with her about it several times, reinforcing that we were nothing more than friends, and wouldn't be anything more.  That I had talked to her, and gave her advice as a friend, not as a mentor, not as a top, not as a Dom ...

It just got worse.  Finally, I had to tell her that I was very busy on a couple of major projects (true) and that I wouldn't be around for a few months.

I kept getting long emails ... greeting cards of various types ... IMs to an absent person ... posts in the forum ...  so I "disappeared" for about 6 months.  No, not totally.  I talked with my other friends occasionally, and I did post sometimes, although rarely.  I'd respond to an occasional IM when I thought she might not be on.

Finally she sent me a long, hurtful email, telling me how hurt she was because I wasn't on everyday, that I had disappeared.  That she didn't know what was going on ...

I just ignored it, until I heard from some of our mutual friends that she had gotten herself a Dom, and then I slowly returned.

Today, we occasionally chat (did last night, as a matter of fact), but I've no intention on even really being her friend anymore.

She would tell you that "I" disappeared.  I would tell you that she didn't listen ... couldn't take a hint ... and had a less than firm grasp of reality.

But if she posted here, and talked about how someone she "loved" in her life "simply disappeared" ... too many of you would buy into it.

And be wrong.

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