Masculus -> RE: What role has the Forer Effect played in contemporary BDSM? (6/9/2010 4:00:51 PM)
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Your first misassumption, op, lies in the fact that you believe someone deliberately created these labels with a specific definition common to all in mind. Wrong. People started doing things, then someone else slapped a catchy label on it that stuck. Yes, People have been doing it a very long time and it had a catchy label that did stick for nearly one hundred years, it was a clinical term and it was called Sadomasochism. Mush of the literature read by many of the koolaid drinkers of this genre, subculture or whatever claim that Sadomasochism was just a little to nasty and it had to be changed. This is a quote from one of those koolaid drinkers handbooks. A shitrag called 'Screw the roses, send me the thorns', "BDSM - Once upon a time this was all called Sadomasochism (SM, S/M or S&M) and the players were all deemed very bad, sick, perverted people. We were just people though, as horny as everyone is, with a little kink to make us special. But some of us didn't want to be called sick, bad perverts and these people invented names like Dominance and Submission (D&S, DS or D/s), Love Bondage (Love Bondage) and Bondage and Discipline (B&D) to make themselves and the pleasure police think that what they did was different from what those sad, twisted, nasty old sadomasochists did, no no! Then we all got online with our personal computers (well, a lot of us did) and began doing what people do best when they're not having sex: argue. For months arguments about labels for our kinks clogged up the computer networks. Finally, the term BDSM was born. This made many kinky people happy because it incorporated Bondage and Discipline (BD), Dominance and Submission (DS) and Sadomasochism (SM). We told the Love Bondage set that we loved them very much. To prove it, we tied them all up and dumped them in a deserted warehouse in East L.A. where we kept them bound in a circle whining Barry Manilow tunes from behind their gags. Did the arguments stop? Fat chance. Most of us, though, have found other things to argue about between sexual encounters." Like many BDSM books this one claims the change from the clinical term to the more friendly BDSM was do to stigmatization. But I seriously doubt that, I believe it had nothing to do with stigmatization and everything to do with segmentation. This were a marketing tool like the Forer effect comes in handy, to increase the segment purchasing bondage, S&M gear and books. It did work to a degree, but soon after BDSM had to be revamped to reach an even larger segment. You see, BDSM still had that nasty S and M within its series of acronyms. The profiteers had to reach an even larger segment. Tada, D/s was born. D/s was a wonderful thing, it could be applied to anyone and everyone. The nasty and perverted was eliminated and replaced by the boring and romantic. A romance novel lifestyle that replaced the physical with the spiritual. It doesn't take long in searching this site or other like it to find those who think pain is wrong. These same people claim the lifestyle has nothing to to with sexuality or eroticism, the lifestyle is soooooooo much deeper. Horse shit can get deep too. If the lifestyle was so deep, then why do they come to sites like collar me, sites littered with pornographic ads depicting theatrical violence and abuse, bondage and huniliation. And all of these ads pose their models in sexual positions. It only shows you how powerful something vague can be. How powerful the Forer Effect is. Another example is the beloved submissive. Submissive can describe anyone from a masochistic bottom to the family gardner. quote:
As an aside, what makes you think the "Old Guard" is a myth? You don't believe that the subculture existed, or you don't believe anyone who was in it is still alive? I tend to believe the literature from those who were around when the alleged old guard existed. The Larry Townsend's and Daniel Harris's who were around during the 60's and 70's, people who played with the practitioners of the 50's. The funny thing is that these Leather historians never mention the old guard or their protocols. As a matter of fact in the 1972 publication of 'The Leathermans Handbook' there isn't any mentions of BDSM, D/s, Old Guard, etc.. All of these terms were born on the Internet to reach a broader segment. Before anyone tries to label me a mainstream hater. I have no problem with the curious and their need to explore, but I have no love for a mainstreamer invader who refuses to explore bondage and sadomasochism, but instead assault it and claim their lifestyle is superior than my pastime.
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