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flogger -> Got a boy or boi serving me (6/8/2010 1:08:07 PM)

He chased after me on Collarme...Am using him for a chauffeur, slave, toy, how does this really make me look to the fem slaves/sub that my goal is to own a female slave? Have not introduced him to my local dungeon,  Domcon. people saw me with him and introduced his as my slave. Does this help me or hurt me as a Master ...is my quesiton in the females point of view?



subtee -> RE: Got a boy or boi serving me (6/8/2010 1:21:45 PM)

For some it might matter, however, to me it doesn't affect your status as a "master." Other considerations would impact my opinion, not whether you are master to male or female.

However, you will likely want to explain how you came to own a bo(iy) if you were instead interested in owning a girl.



flogger -> RE: Got a boy or boi serving me (6/8/2010 2:09:17 PM)

Don't really own him but could if wanted..tonight will practice hog tying or using my whip just to keep from being lonely to play with a toy.  Females take so long to respond to any nice or kinky approaches.  Sorta like they are blind and don't see me.  Can really confuse a Master.



LadyNTrainer -> RE: Got a boy or boi serving me (6/8/2010 2:15:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: flogger

He chased after me on Collarme...Am using him for a chauffeur, slave, toy, how does this really make me look to the fem slaves/sub that my goal is to own a female slave? Have not introduced him to my local dungeon,  Domcon. people saw me with him and introduced his as my slave. Does this help me or hurt me as a Master ...is my quesiton in the females point of view?


Being homoflexible is a great asshole filter.  I tend to have a lot more respect for people who are willing to be publicly bi (even if it's only in a nonsexual play sense) than I do for people who are afraid to admit that they might enjoy playing with someone of the same gender. Not that there's anything wrong with monosexuals either, as long as they are not bigots.  I just personally relate to bisexuals better, and I prefer to date only bisexuals or at least heteroflexibles.

But then, I'm really not your target market, and there probably are het fem subs who might feel insecure or homophobic if they saw you with a male submissive partner.  Or they might simply assume you are gay.   Communication is likely to be key if you want to make it clear that you are not (exclusively) interested in topping boys.



Miyani -> RE: Got a boy or boi serving me (6/8/2010 2:59:02 PM)

FR

Like LnT, I'm not your demographic, but I'm going to answer anyway, because I can.

As long as their other relationships are undertaken ethically, I don't give a fig whether my partners and potential partners are dating men or women. The only thing that would affect how I see you is something you haven't actually said, but I think you've implied.

It looks like you've accepted this boy's service not because you want him, or you enjoy his company, but because he was just there. You're playing with him tonight "just to keep from being lonely." Now, if he understands why you're encouraging him, and accepts those terms, that's fine. But if he thinks he actually has the potential to be special to you, or he thinks you're interested in owning him, and you're not? That would make me think less of you, as a Master and a man.

But maybe I'm reading it wrongly.



Glasgow -> RE: Got a boy or boi serving me (6/8/2010 3:06:27 PM)

quote:

Don't really own him but could if wanted..tonight will practice hog tying or using my whip just to keep from being lonely to play with a toy.  Females take so long to respond to any nice or kinky approaches.  Sorta like they are blind and don't see me.  Can really confuse a Master.


I joined yesterday... and I already have 6 pages (that's 120 messages) of bulk mail that got filtered out without me even touching it. Even with most of the message restrictions set, I've gotten about 20 messages so far, each from brand-new people. Most of them are obviously cut-n-paste shtick, and some are several paragraphs long... which I'm not going to take the time to read.

I'm sure a lot of these guys (and some gals) are great and would make excellent Masters or even friends. But there simply isn't time to address all of them. So it probably isn't what you're doing, but rather that you are but a single fish in the sea.


To answer your actual question, I would rather have a Master with experience than otherwise, even if that experience was only with men. I also think the aspect that you are willing to take on a male slave sorts you from those frightening sorts that have obvious anger issues, and say they want a (very specific demographic) female to serve them as a lifelong slave to beat and abuse as they see fit (btw, safety words r 4 loozers).

In all, I would say that (at least for me), this scenario would increase the chance of me wanting you, not decrease it.




GraciousLady -> RE: Got a boy or boi serving me (6/8/2010 3:10:27 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: flogger

He chased after me on Collarme...Am using him for a chauffeur, slave, toy, how does this really make me look to the fem slaves/sub that my goal is to own a female slave? Have not introduced him to my local dungeon,  Domcon. people saw me with him and introduced his as my slave. Does this help me or hurt me as a Master ...is my quesiton in the females point of view?


If he is happy and agreed to this situation who should care?



sunshinemiss -> RE: Got a boy or boi serving me (6/8/2010 3:44:30 PM)

It would matter how you treat him.

This song came to mind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5IVuN1N6-Y




SailingBum -> RE: Got a boy or boi serving me (6/8/2010 3:58:04 PM)

The way I understand it guy =guy =gay girl =girl = gay Time to out yourself dude

BadOne



flogger -> RE: Got a boy or boi serving me (6/8/2010 4:08:46 PM)

I've decided to keep him private,  Nothing sexual and he knows it.  Just a private slave toy to practice on and drive me around town. It will keep me from being lonely while waiting for a fem slave to kneel at my feet.



DesFIP -> RE: Got a boy or boi serving me (6/8/2010 4:29:36 PM)

Are you looking for a poly situation or a monogamous one? If poly, then I imagine most people would think worse of you for hiding him. What are you planning to do if you do meet a female? Kick him to the curb and pretend you never played with him?

If you're looking for a monogamous situation, then being in this other relationship will harm you. The same way being in any relationship prevents you from really looking for another.

But I have to tell you, I think worse of you for using him in this manner, and most people with empathy will feel for him also.



flogger -> RE: Got a boy or boi serving me (6/8/2010 5:18:34 PM)

He has been told and warned before meeting  face to face that a female is my goal  and that am not comfortable with a man serving me...he is totally aware of this, and he agrees with my path of him also helping me find her.  He is bi but won't let a fem dom him.  Yes, he also knows that a poly scene is in play.  Hi is not doing anything he does not agree to.  Your opinion is valued thank you for your thoughts.  He is very aware of what is expected of him.



reynardfox -> RE: Got a boy or boi serving me (6/8/2010 5:27:41 PM)

There is a world of difference between a user and a master, whether it be boy or girl.



littlewonder -> RE: Got a boy or boi serving me (6/8/2010 5:37:41 PM)

personally whether he's aware of the situation or not, you're using him....period. I'm think a lot of people agree to things they normally wouldn't due to sheer desperation.

And how do you think a female will feel when you decide to hook up with her and she finds out you had him on the side as a dirty little secret? If it was me I'd be running for the door and slamming it behind me.

Yeah, good luck with that.



IronBear -> RE: Got a boy or boi serving me (6/8/2010 6:03:11 PM)

G'day flogger,

Mate, any females who can't handle that you as a Master have a male slave/sub and want as your primary a girl isn't worth staying awake sweating about. I don't give a flying fruit bat if you are straight, bi or gay it matters not as a Master. I know an awful lot of Gorean Masters who dispise male sub/slaves which is their loss. I prefer the balance of having both male and female slaves for a lot of logical reasons. be your own man and having a boy will certainly bring to light those who you don't need in your circle of friends and may attract more liberated friendly folks ladies included.



GraciousLady -> RE: Got a boy or boi serving me (6/8/2010 6:15:21 PM)

These 2 people are adults in a consentual relationship. There are no 3rd parties involved that are being lied to such as persons one could call signifigant others. flogger's worry is if he can attract the female sub he aspires to attract if he has a male sub. That is yes and no. If the female sub is not poly she will have no interest in him. It is flogger's choice how to proceed.



flogger -> RE: Got a boy or boi serving me (6/8/2010 6:18:03 PM)

Watching the game and checking responses, yours Bear is the most rewarding and your thinking is the same as mine, but wanted to just see how others would respond.  Thanks for your insight and great response.



DesFIP -> RE: Got a boy or boi serving me (6/8/2010 6:30:16 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: GraciousLady

These 2 people are adults in a consentual relationship. There are no 3rd parties involved that are being lied to such as persons one could call signifigant others. flogger's worry is if he can attract the female sub he aspires to attract if he has a male sub. That is yes and no. If the female sub is not poly she will have no interest in him. It is flogger's choice how to proceed.


The problem is that he is keeping him secret so that a potential female partner won't find out about him.

Which makes this boy a dirty little secret even though there is nothing sexual going on.

I, and the other women who have agreed with me, all feel that this would make us think less of the op. We would think more of him if he was playing publicly, if they were friends who also had a top/bottom play dynamic going on.

And I agree that this boy is desperate and that's why he's agreeing to a less than optimal situation.



flogger -> RE: Got a boy or boi serving me (6/8/2010 7:25:28 PM)

If she is reading the forums she will know, 



LadyNTrainer -> RE: Got a boy or boi serving me (6/8/2010 7:37:56 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP
The problem is that he is keeping him secret so that a potential female partner won't find out about him.

Which makes this boy a dirty little secret even though there is nothing sexual going on.


Yeah, that is not a very honorable or dominant thing to do.  Cowards hide and sneak, but they aren't masters or dominants.  They're just cowards, and despicable.



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