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vincentML -> RE: stopped beating your partner yet? (6/9/2010 9:44:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: servantforuse I'm pretty sure that domestic violence goes up here in the US during the NLF playoffs and especially on Super Bolw Sunday.. Really? I have never heard that.

vincentML -> RE: stopped beating your partner yet? (6/9/2010 9:57:26 AM)
quote: There's always fight club but I don't think I should talk about that I dunno. Really, state sanctioned fight clubs might go far to solve the problems of domestic abuse. Unfortunately, fight clubs seem only one civilized step above cockfights and dogfights. But then civilization only promised to keep violence under control not abolish it. Consider the spectator popularity of boxing, wrestling, and ultimate fighting. Do spectators then go home and beat their spouses after those matches as well? Or is this a problem endemic to latter day England?

Aneirin -> RE: stopped beating your partner yet? (6/9/2010 5:10:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub It seems many members from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland believe that because violence often follows religion then religion should be abolished. It is not people following religion but religion itself at fault. In that case because violence often follows “footie” then it should be abolished as well. Surely you must see it is the game of football that is at fault not the people playing or following it. Butch The trouble is, the British have always been a fighting people, it seems many Brits fight for the hell of it, and any excuse will do, any cause can become a reason to fight, it is what Brits do. But in this day and age we have to be civil, restrain the need for a good scrap, for we now have a professional army to take the places of the rabble that was once conscripted or lured to war and adventure, a far cry from labour in a rich man's fields. Perhaps it is life as it is now presents no challenge, no life or death possibility, people now have no possible out into adventure, they are through educated choice confined to the rich man's field of old, so what it is in some people has to be exercised somehow elsewhere. Football just happens to appeal to the tribal in people, and with the tribal comes the aggression, as if the tribal instinct is inextricably linked to bravado, feats of courage and hero worship, battles to be retold in pubs after several pints with similarity to the old camp fire. Sure there are people who might like to ban football to answer a question, but what one has to ask, is what option is there to replace it, for it seems there are some in society that just need to scrog and bash and they may even come from the most unlikeliest ranks of society. We are a fighting people whether we like it or not, for some of us need an outlet to feal fear and activate that primal instinct, let the animal inside out and from various studies on the subject of soccer violence, quell the need to feel for a short time alive. But our biggest weakness can control all but the hardiest if those that govern chose to sacrifice taxation in return for civility, for the relatively cheap and easy access to alcohol plays a very large part.

thishereboi -> RE: stopped beating your partner yet? (6/10/2010 9:04:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: servantforuse I'm pretty sure that domestic violence goes up here in the US during the NLF playoffs and especially on Super Bolw Sunday.. Really? I have never heard that. I have never hear that either. Although I have to admit that when the Tigers played in the world series a while back. The fans tore the stadium up after the game. They even ripped seats out of the stands. So yea, kinda violent there. I can't imagine what they would have done if we had lost[8D]

vincentML -> RE: stopped beating your partner yet? (6/11/2010 2:29:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aneirin Perhaps it is life as it is now presents no challenge, no life or death possibility, people now have no possible out into adventure, they are through educated choice confined to the rich man's field of old, so what it is in some people has to be exercised somehow elsewhere. Football just happens to appeal to the tribal in people, and with the tribal comes the aggression, as if the tribal instinct is inextricably linked to bravado, feats of courage and hero worship, battles to be retold in pubs after several pints with similarity to the old camp fire. Sure there are people who might like to ban football to answer a question, but what one has to ask, is what option is there to replace it, for it seems there are some in society that just need to scrog and bash and they may even come from the most unlikeliest ranks of society. I would not replace it. No, no. I think the authorities should open the pitch to fans after each match and let them have a go at each other. Emergency vehicles standing by, of course. That would make for even more television revenue. The post match brawl would then be controlled. A time limit would be set and at a signal the police could lob tear gas onto the field to end it. Btw, I like your sentiments above. Well done.

Aneirin -> RE: stopped beating your partner yet? (6/12/2010 4:30:00 AM)
Thank You, One possible solution I see for those that like to scrap, is by displaying a need and skill in hand to hand combat, they step forth as soldiers and there of interest to those that like to turn normal people into killers. Perhaps a cure to their ways might be a stint in the armed forces as punishment, where quite possibly a new exciting career might open up for some, definately better than rimming the ass of the boss back in the office. But for others a good drilling by a hard ass RSM and basic training that turns raw civilians into something malleable might just be the ticket soccer hooligans need to become just soccer fans. But on the day England is playing and on the run up to it I have noticed the balloons and bunting, Come on England festooned over many houses and businesses, even it seems my own abode, from the berk who lives upstairs, a person who has named his cats after notable football players and his kids after US Northern cities with similarity to that of the Beckhams. He has stuck up similar bunting on the face of the flats for who to see, (we are the last house before the fresh air of a disused quarry). But I notice on the bunting in the corner is the usual source; Allied breweries thus indicating the direct link between beer and football. Where there is football, there is beer and my wonder is do the fans realise to whom they are giving free advertising to, or is it a case of free bunting, free t shirts, silly hats and all, we don't care who or what we are advertising for it shows by them being associated, they are fans too. The other take of course is the breweries see sport as a means to sell vast quantities of tasteless cheap beer with the caveat written in extreme small print that one must drink responsibly, there removing them from blame when the inevitable scrap kicks off. Cheap tasteless beer and football are inextricably linked, a mere refreshment can become the catalyst for violence. In attacking alcohol in the form of beer, I am not saying to ban the stuff, for I like my beer and I do imbibe a few times a week, but my drinking is curtailed by cost, for I only drink the ales, never the cheaper sports fizz. I have a limit, and I stick to it, for I know that time with beer when sense gives way irrationality, so I keep clear. ( A far safer bet than going a pint further and ending up in a sore heap at the bottom of a kids climbing frame in the envitable lets play in the kids playground on the way home, or ending up muddy and wet after trying to cross the lake when the tide is out)

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