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KittenWithaTwist -> RE: a bonding issue (4/18/2006 8:24:35 PM)
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I myself can not imagine taking my beautiful dog and putting her in a ring and fighting her for sport, I would never allow that to happen but people do all the time, every day in fact, the same minds that get joy from this sort of activity has been prevalent thought out history.
Just to give you some sort of background on fighting animals: Those animals aren't "your beautiful dog". They're animals put on display to fight it out to the death. They aren't just dogs either. They're roosters, rats, cats-just about any creature that can be easily bred, easily trained, and cheap to maintain. Dogs, rats, cats, and chickens are also bred to be consumed in some countries. These sorts of activities are prevalent throughout history.
The forced fighting of humans is not something I've ever come across outside of Gorean novels and the histories of male slaves fighting gladiators. Typically, female slaves were kept for gender-specific tasks, including cleaning, keeping house, cooking, gathering food from the market, gathering water, wool-working, child-care, being sold as prostitutes, kept at home for sexual servitude, breeding, wet nursing, and entertaining. Women, as the "gentle" sex, were not, to my knowledge, kept as "fighters".
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Mans inhumanity to man is vast, extreme, foreboding and perverse, we saw it in the Roman Colosseum, in POW camps, slave plantations, Auschwitz, Jeffery Dahmer, Tienanmen Square, Tibet, South Korea, little children working in sweat shops...
The Roman Colosseum was typically used to butcher male gladiators (lower than slaves in status), male slaves, Jews and followers of Christ, prisoners of war, and the occassional female gladiator (which is not a slave, but a professional fighter). POW camps were more for maiming, raping, and slaughter. Slave plantations were aimed at forced labor to produce goods. Jeffrey Dahmer...a serial killer.
The human mind, spirit, and physical body is certainly capable of pure evil and complete hatred, so I don't doubt the possibility of such an occurance as the forced fighting of the female submissive in a Western country. However, the instances you state do not relate to that.
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in Africa they are still doing clittodectomys and in Saudi Arabia your parents can kill you if you bring shame (date a boy) to the family.
Yup. Amnesty International certainly has a lot of trouble on its' shoulders. In some countries, people believe in kidnapping women to give them children, but if that child is a girl, they'll kill it. In some countries, America is less concerned with human rights violations and more concerned with where to build the next Walmart.
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I am glad that you live in a sanitized world where anything depraved and abhorrent must not be real KOM, I wish we could all live there.
The world is hardly sanitized and drama-free. Many of the members of this website live in the same country where the BTK serial killer was just arrested. Some of us know rape victims, or were victims of rape. Some of us are victims of abuse, or know victims of abuse. Some of us are on welfare, or cannot get custody of our children, or live next door to a child molester. Some of us may be ostracized by society because of our beliefs and practices, while others are in hiding for fear of that problem.
This, however, does not mean that what MLSkajira says is true. What she describes with so little detail (yet the need to express that she's so freakishly different) is extremely difficult to believe. It sounds, to me (an intelligent, worldly, perhaps a bit too knowledgable person), like a scene out of a particularly bad paragraph in one of the latter Gorean novels.
And to top it all off, she's carries the recessive (only effects one in 17,000) combination of genes that lead to albinism. I was intrigued (as I used to work with a person who had albinism-she was african-american), so I looked up the possible traits of albinism. In ocular albinism, only the eyes have no pigmentation, though they do not always appear to be pink (or purple, or red), as the human eye is considered to be a large enough vessel as to prevent blood vessels from accumulating beneath the iris (as is the cause of pink eyes in other albino creatures, such as rats). In oculacutaneous albinism, the skin, hair, and eye pigmentation is effected, and can cause the skin to appear white or yellow (in the case of many african americans like Yellowman), while the hair is white or blonde, and the eyes are often blue (in caucasians) and hazel or gray (in african americans).
I saw nothing to indicate that a native american person could be albino with red hair and green eyes. I saw nothing that indicated that there was a case of such in any medical record (though several famous people whom I had never heard of were listed on Wikipedia).
So, I can't say that I believe this either.
My point is-many people who are inflicted with oddities are less likely to discuss them on an internet forum. People who are abused or injured or raped are less likely to discuss these events on an internet forum (unless it is one dedicated to such a topic). As a skeptic and an intelligent human, I am unlikely to believe the ramblings of a woman on the internet who throws her baggage around like its weightless.
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