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Malkinius -> RE: The dangers of mind control. (6/13/2010 2:46:31 AM)
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Greetings Jeff....
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ORIGINAL: leadership527
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Malkinius said:
Neurolinguistic programming and other similar concepts work mostly on the semiotic and psychological levels of communication.
Well, I can't speak to "and other similar concepts". But you and I will have to agree to disagree on NLP. Again, you have a theory unsupported by empirical evidence. Or, at least, I've never been able to find any credibly peer reviewed scientific documentation on this. This makes it more akin to a religion than a piece of science. While I agree that there are plenty of ways to modify a human psyche... and in fact I am doing so with Carol, I just think there's simpler and much more supportable answers than some sort of semi-mystical programming. I also sincerely doubt that any such "programming" would hold up long in an environment in which it was contra-indicated.
For those of you who are into the whole "Mind control is real" thing, I'd really truly liked to be shown wrong. If someone can show me a credible scientific article in a peer reviewed journal, I'd love to see the reference. I will gladly recant my position if anyone can give me something more than BDSM pseudo-science.
Whether or not you believe something works the processes of things like NLP are definable. That is what I did. The results on it are mixed. It works to some extent and it works better for some than others. As a way thinking about communication and the conveyance of information formatted into more easily acceptable ways, it works. Do that and the chances of higher prioritization on retention go up. The mistake you and most others here have made is the old one of since you don't understand it, it can't be true. While I have never taken classes in NLP I have read enough about it to understand how it is done in practice and what its goals are.
Mind control at its crudest is something like the Stockholm Syndrome. Cult programming is another example of it. The followers of any group where the leaders think for their followers is a third. I can, given the means of communication, change your mind about something and keep it that way. We usually call that instruction and persuasion. <grins> Teachers do it all the time. What I do is and is not what the OP claimed to do. For me, it is a tool, not an end. I don't claim to be able to do what he claimed. Well...not to that extent. My work is less overt, slower and more lasting. The focus is also different.
I wish I knew of papers, peer reviewed or not, on the things I am studying. If I find some I will let you know. I am making some professional contacts in the field abut it is slow going. If you want the science behind what I am talking about, contact me privately and I will let you see what I have. How much neurobiology of memory and hormonal based neurotransmitter cascades knowledge do you have?
Be well.....
Malkinius
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