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RE: Watching the Story of O. Thoughts? - 6/13/2010 1:25:07 AM

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If you did it with Keira Knightley as O and Keanu Reeves as Rene and Gerard DEpardu as Sir Stephen with a phillip glass soundtrack, then it would be worth watching. Anyone got a better cast in mind?

You'd STILL have to add in some credible bit about why this super-slave wasn't doing anything other than laughing at Rene and Stephen.

Rene: Obey me because I'm the least dominant male you've ever seen and I deserve the sympathy vote.
Stephen: Obey me because I'm an arrogant stuck up prig who offers you nothing accept my gracious willingness to accept the gift of your submission.

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RE: Watching the Story of O. Thoughts? - 6/13/2010 6:51:11 AM

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Rene: Obey me because I'm the least dominant male you've ever seen and I deserve the sympathy vote.
Stephen: Obey me because I'm an arrogant stuck up prig who offers you nothing accept my gracious willingness to accept the gift of your submission.

Rene was merely a tool for her awakening. He was not in possession of the skill to take her where she needed to go. O is property. Adding anything further to that statement negates the gravity of what it implies. Now we can pretty this up in the hopes that some will find it easier to digest, but for all intents and purposes what is considered ill treatment is merely a way of being for those that yearn for that brand of captivity.

She adored the cruelty. It factored into her servitude and ownership. She's the ultimate Frankenstein. It can be argued that Sir Stephen made her that way. But I'm of the belief he merely unleashed what was already there.

The continuation of the tale in The Return to the Chateau merely highlights this. Many see the character as debased without recognizing that's precisely why she's with him. He was never the puppeteer that most present him to be. But definitely a mad scientist of sorts. His greatest contribution to her person was providing the vehicle for its release.

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RE: Watching the Story of O. Thoughts? - 6/13/2010 8:27:27 AM

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ORIGINAL: porcelaine

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ORIGINAL: leadership527

Rene: Obey me because I'm the least dominant male you've ever seen and I deserve the sympathy vote.
Stephen: Obey me because I'm an arrogant stuck up prig who offers you nothing accept my gracious willingness to accept the gift of your submission.

Rene was merely a tool for her awakening. He was not in possession of the skill to take her where she needed to go. O is property. Adding anything further to that statement negates the gravity of what it implies. Now we can pretty this up in the hopes that some will find it easier to digest, but for all intents and purposes what is considered ill treatment is merely a way of being for those that yearn for that brand of captivity.

She adored the cruelty. It factored into her servitude and ownership. She's the ultimate Frankenstein. It can be argued that Sir Stephen made her that way. But I'm of the belief he merely unleashed what was already there.

The continuation of the tale in The Return to the Chateau merely highlights this. Many see the character as debased without recognizing that's precisely why she's with him. He was never the puppeteer that most present him to be. But definitely a mad scientist of sorts. His greatest contribution to her person was providing the vehicle for its release.

~porcelaine

I follow you on everything except the Frankenstein analogy. Frankenstein wanted to destroy the monster, and the monster wanted to live a happy life and be loved and accepted. That doesn't seem to cross over well to The Story, IMHO.

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RE: Watching the Story of O. Thoughts? - 6/13/2010 9:00:40 AM

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I follow you on everything except the Frankenstein analogy. Frankenstein wanted to destroy the monster, and the monster wanted to live a happy life and be loved and accepted. That doesn't seem to cross over well to The Story, IMHO.

The analogy comes together if you've read the second book. She's released and Sir Stephen is no longer in the picture. She continues to live in the manner she once did and clutches the reins as well. It's an odd twist in all honesty. She's in control and by doing that she's free to be without constraint.

We can posit that she didn't know how, needed a push or provocation of sorts to allow things to unfold as they did. But without the commander pulling the strings she had the opportunity to embrace a normal life. But she didn't. She chose otherwise.

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RE: Watching the Story of O. Thoughts? - 6/13/2010 3:01:24 PM

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I haven't read the 'Story of O' but watched the film. Personally, there was only one little bit that resonated with me - when O turned a suitor away by being whipped, hence proving her need for 'bdsm/slavery'. Other than that, I found it laughable. O was portrayed as being beautiful, slim and intellgent - which is why so many fell in love with her (presumably - because if not, why could not the same have happened to the other slaves?)

I'm glad I've watched it, but I don't much rate it.

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RE: Watching the Story of O. Thoughts? - 6/13/2010 7:41:15 PM

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I happen to agree with AnimusRex regarding the movie (specifically the soft-porn 70's version) and his assessment of it wholeheartedly. I have often had my appreciation of that movie responded to with condescension, not having read the book - though I would like to have read it. Yet, I watched that version of "The Story of O", feeling as though my private and presumably perverse fantasies had been drawn from me, extracted from my mind and soul to be acted out on screen - badly acted by the standards of many - but I was nonetheless astonished, enthralled and deeply aroused every one of the 2,000 times I viewed it! I was baffled by the number and accuracy of my personal and secret desires that were captured and depicted in the story! Perhaps naive to be so amazed, I was utterly changed by the simple fact that such a film, such a story even existed.

I agree that Rene and Sir Stephan were relatively flat characters but there was one male character with depth: the one who trained her, seemed so cruel and wonderfully uncompromising but, ultimately fell in love with her. The scene in which they happen upon one another some time after she has completed her training at Roissy and he expresses his desire to "spend some time" with her only to be denied when she calls Sir Stephan for permission is one I find agonizing to watch because his desire for her is so evidently beyond mere lust. He is the one who molded her and aided her most in becoming the woman she did. Except that he appears so vulnerable in those moments before and after he is refused his desire, I would say that he was possibly more enchantingly Masterful than Sir Stephan in that he didn't only objectify her, he subjected her to the harshest brutality she endured and seemed both proud and moved by her evolution.

Okay. Clearly enough... I loved that movie and after all I've come to experience, understand and accept about the realistic application of such indescribably desirable fantasies, it has never become cheesy, never ceased to touch those exquisitely sensitive places in my soul and remind me how much passion, idealism and inescapable devotion I felt in pursuit of the fulfillment of such fantasies and that seemingly strange but simple notion of surrender, submission and service. Perhaps the story does portray inapplicable ideals and imaginings. I'll probably never have the room I dreamed for 20 years of having with two white posts to be tied to just like in the movie. Most likely, I'll never experience the majority of things she did that met with my own desires and, if I did, I'd probably be disappointed by the reality I suppose. I think I'd rather return to that naivete and idealism than remain the jaded spirit that reality, age and interpretation have made of me, though! Certainly, by now, I'm not afraid to possess my sexual eccentricities, just a lot more cautious about embracing them - maybe too cautious.

Thanks to the OP for inspiring my memory of a girl who fell in love with "The Story of O" and ultimately to consider whether she still exists in me!

-llilah

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RE: Watching the Story of O. Thoughts? - 6/13/2010 7:56:05 PM

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If I can ever manage to stay awake during the entire flick I'll render a judgment regarding whether I like or hate the film.

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RE: Watching the Story of O. Thoughts? - 6/13/2010 8:09:40 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: porcelaine

quote:

ORIGINAL: leadership527

Rene: Obey me because I'm the least dominant male you've ever seen and I deserve the sympathy vote.
Stephen: Obey me because I'm an arrogant stuck up prig who offers you nothing accept my gracious willingness to accept the gift of your submission.

Rene was merely a tool for her awakening. He was not in possession of the skill to take her where she needed to go. O is property. Adding anything further to that statement negates the gravity of what it implies. Now we can pretty this up in the hopes that some will find it easier to digest, but for all intents and purposes what is considered ill treatment is merely a way of being for those that yearn for that brand of captivity.

She adored the cruelty. It factored into her servitude and ownership. She's the ultimate Frankenstein. It can be argued that Sir Stephen made her that way. But I'm of the belief he merely unleashed what was already there.

The continuation of the tale in The Return to the Chateau merely highlights this. Many see the character as debased without recognizing that's precisely why she's with him. He was never the puppeteer that most present him to be. But definitely a mad scientist of sorts. His greatest contribution to her person was providing the vehicle for its release.

~porcelaine

This.

omg this book was my discovery at age 20... for 20 years i though it was just fantasy!

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RE: Watching the Story of O. Thoughts? - 6/13/2010 8:50:22 PM

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I've seen sexier beer commercials. Boring tripe, imho

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RE: Watching the Story of O. Thoughts? - 6/13/2010 8:54:22 PM

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Well hey there IB! ....... it has indeed been a long time.....good to see you, and thank you!

Take care my friend...

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RE: Watching the Story of O. Thoughts? - 6/13/2010 9:19:45 PM

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I read story of o when I was in high school. I have reread it several times since then. I love it and I believe it opened my eyes and helped me figure out my submissive side. Havnt seen the movie, may get around to it.

I do have to agree, there are always typical hipsters in every scene that use a popular text or whatever as a bible. THats just lame

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RE: Watching the Story of O. Thoughts? - 6/14/2010 8:31:15 AM

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Saw the 70's version back before being in this lifestyle. Has stuck with me over the years, even though soft porn, (don't care for any porn movies as have no story line) did enjoy it back then. It was fantasy though

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RE: Watching the Story of O. Thoughts? - 6/14/2010 10:38:30 AM

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A couple of people have contacted us on the other side regarding WyldHrt's comment about the screening of the 'Story of O'. Here's my memory of it...

The Plan: Screening of 'The Story of O'; re-Master-ed (appropriately) 'Director's Cut' with 'missing scenes' in Blu-Ray shown on hi-def Sony 57 inch plasma screen. (Sidebar: Anyone else ever pick up on the incongruity regarding capitalization of the Letter 'O'? As we all know from our reading...REAL slaves only use lower lower case; don't 'ya know!) to open our new theater room, complete with rolling hot dog stand, candy bar, commercial popcorn machine, and beth's infamous 'infused jello shots' and brownies. A nice mix of 16 or so people, couples and singles, who are close friends and fellow lifestyle 'perverts' and 'degenerates' getting special 'opening night' invitations. The theater room re-furnished with over-sized reclining chairs, pillows, and blankets on the floor. The pool and jacuzzi waiting hot and steamy beyond the theater exit door, the in house dungeon candle lit and ready once the guests had been sexually and emotionally stimulated by viewing the erotic story of 'o's slave training and journey into submission.

The Reality: Movie decorum and audience consideration lasted about 2 minutes and one of the Dominants (okay it was me) in the audience couldn't control himself and started mocking the technique of every stroke of any 'toy' used. Based upon the scenes, 'o' may not have been the best trained slave but she was by far the cleanest having be bathed no less than 5 times by a variety of people during the film, which was 5 more times than she smiled throughout the process. O's criteria for being a 'slave' was to be naked and have people escort you to various bathing, flogging, whipping, and spanking rituals; while pouting and being told "you are to be prepared...". You never get to see what she is being prepared for, nor do you see anyone actually enjoying the preparation or the finished process. Indeed (WARNING - ***SPOILER ALERT***) after all the prep work Rene puts her through he gives her to his brother Stephen. Watching the movie - it was VERY understandable and the right move on his part. O was a pouty little 'do me' brat. The appropriate sequel would have been the Stephen trying to giver her back.

After that first comment the party broke down into a X-Rated version of 'Mystery Science Theater' with everyone competing to make the most obnoxious and/or funny comment. It wasn't hard to do. About an hour into the movie we still were having difficulty figuring out what time period the movie was set. Sometimes they were riding around in a horse and carriage facilitating barn-room scenes; other times a modern car where the now common; "Remove your panties and sit with your naked arse on the leather." line was said in the back of a limo. It was fun and funny as hell!

Oh and the 'cut scenes' indeed were put back in the movie, but nobody bothered dubbing them into English. So, in the middle of the story, you'd see a bad - NOT 're-Master-ed' 20-30 seconds of French dialog. It should also be noted that none of the cut scenes were sex or S&M scenes too explicit for the times. It was just dialog. beth speaks French and she would have been able to translate if she wasn't at this point laughing too hard.

Okay, okay, O was released in 1975. Its innocent attempt to illustrate a M/s relationship was akin to 'Zumanity' being described as an 'X-Rated Erotic Audience Experience'. I guess if you're from small town in Iowa waiting for 'Gone With the Wind' to play in the first run cinema down town, you may find it 'erotic', same goes for 'O'.

The Conclusion: Never try to plan 'orgies' - from experience the best ones just happen!

New Plan: Our next 'Movie Night' will be a showing of 'Rocky Horror', where entry will me limited to those coming in costume; with selected 'Three Stooges' shorts providing better examples of both humor and sadism.

Story of O - Trivia: What Hollywood actor turned down the role of Sir Stephen? Click on the link for the answer.

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RE: Watching the Story of O. Thoughts? - 6/14/2010 12:44:06 PM

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If you watch the movie, make sure it is with a group of kinky friends. It's much better with 5 or more people throwing popcorn at the screen and adding commentary.

Agreed. Otherwise it's just corny, badly done porn.

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RE: Watching the Story of O. Thoughts? - 6/14/2010 12:53:34 PM

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I watched once.... next time I will watch paint dry.

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RE: Watching the Story of O. Thoughts? - 6/14/2010 9:40:19 PM

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The Story Of Oh Dear....

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RE: Watching the Story of O. Thoughts? - 6/15/2010 6:00:44 AM

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I didn't like that movie. I was NOT impressed w/the "Dom". He seemed like a big wienie who was trying his hand at being dominant & was surprised w/each success.

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RE: Watching the Story of O. Thoughts? - 6/18/2010 7:04:44 PM

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i enjoyed the documentary, The Author of O, more than the movie. i did read the book first and it was one of my first experiences that directly named what had turned me on for so long, so maybe that affects it.

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RE: Watching the Story of O. Thoughts? - 6/18/2010 7:31:24 PM

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ORIGINAL: bdsmnewbie10
Saw the 70's version back before being in this lifestyle. Has stuck with me over the years, even though soft porn, (don't care for any porn movies as have no story line) did enjoy it back then. It was fantasy though

You watch porn for the story line?

Pervert.

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RE: Watching the Story of O. Thoughts? - 6/19/2010 11:09:40 AM

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Had to dig those '70s hairstyles... NOT! Oh, how did we survive the slaughterhouse of fashion that was the 70s?

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