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Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband flirts:... - 6/12/2010 8:32:43 PM   
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I don't think most women are going to appreciate his comment - Pat needs to STFU about women looking good for their husbands. But why does he look so bad, what does his wife think? He just needs to retire and be quiet for a change. He gets nuttier every year.


Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband flirts: Make yourself more attractive and‘don’t hassle him. - Video

Christian broadcaster Pat Robertson frequently stresses the importance of monogamous heterosexual relationships and is happy to offer his viewers advice on how to maintain them. As Media Matters documents, Robertson fielded a question on yesterday’s edition of the 700 Club from a woman who was concerned that her husband frequently flirts with “other women he finds attractive.” Naturally, Robertson blamed the wife, advising her to “make yourself as attractive as possible,” and to not “hassle him about it,” lest she “drive him away”:

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/06/11/robertson-advice-wife/
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RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband fli... - 6/12/2010 8:35:26 PM   
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God bless Pat Roberstson for his well though out advice!

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RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband fli... - 6/12/2010 8:45:54 PM   
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It's not the worst advice in the world.

Marriage advice boils down to 3 things:

1. Accept it or learn to live with it.
2. Try to convince the other person to change.
3. End the marriage.

Presuming #3 is not a desirable option a person has to gamble on either 1 or 2.

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RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband fli... - 6/12/2010 9:11:39 PM   
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At 76 he says he can bench press 2,000 lbs...what else does a woman need?

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RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband fli... - 6/12/2010 11:41:27 PM   
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Wonder what his advice is for guys that leave skid marks in their underwear...

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RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband fli... - 6/13/2010 2:44:22 AM   
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Brain,
Have you ever read any of the threads on the BDSM side of these forums?  Yanno... the part where women actually choose to be submissive?

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RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband fli... - 6/13/2010 4:20:46 AM   
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I do not think Robertson's advice is to women who choose to be submissive, but more to all women and how to relate to the man in their relationship. In which case Brain is most probability correct in that most women would not agree with it.

Besides where in the role of a women/men being submissive does it say they have to tolerate flirting by their martial partner unless it is something that has been discussed and within the boundaries of their relationship.   I think the mistake Robertson makes is treating every martial relationship with the boundaries he has set in his own.  Cause most of us are not that nuts

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RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband fli... - 6/13/2010 4:30:23 AM   
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You are right.  Brain did say most women, not all.  And I am in absolute agreement that Robertson just gets nuttier and nuttier.  I am concerned that there are people who actually listen to him.

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RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband fli... - 6/13/2010 4:32:29 AM   
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Personally I'd recommend to the husband that he denounce her as a witch, have her hanged and go pick up a younger replacement of his choice "for the sake of his eternal soul".

These churchmen have gotten soft since the 17th century.

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RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband fli... - 6/13/2010 4:39:07 AM   
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Wonder what his advice is for guys that leave skid marks in their underwear...


Buy brown underwear?

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RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband fli... - 6/13/2010 4:44:21 AM   
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He is an agent for makeovers at Macys?


So get a make-over.   Some of us need one.

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RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband fli... - 6/13/2010 4:48:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: eyesopened

You are right.  Brain did say most women, not all.  And I am in absolute agreement that Robertson just gets nuttier and nuttier.  I am concerned that there are people who actually listen to him.

There are. They are called Christians.

(just the nutty ones, though)

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RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband fli... - 6/13/2010 5:46:53 AM   
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Besides where in the role of a women/men being submissive does it say they have to tolerate flirting by their martial partner unless it is something that has been discussed and within the boundaries of their relationship.   I think the mistake Robertson makes is treating every martial relationship with the boundaries he has set in his own.  Cause most of us are not that nuts


Personally I agree that the guy's freaking nuts (isn't he the one who said Haiti sold their souls to the devil?) but I don't think it's necessarily bad advice, nor do I think it's about "submission" in any form I've heard of.

The advice as I read it basically boils down to "guys want pretty girls to find them attractive, he's not going to cheat on you and your best bet to lower his flirting with other girls is to make yourself the main pretty girl who finds him attractive." And I think that's pretty solid advice.

Common alternatives are getting upset, demanding he stop, threatening to take him to marriage counseling, talking about it ad nauseum, etc...all of which will make her seem less attractive and the other women seem more attractive.

My own advice to her would be to make herself seem more attractive, as well as being a bit flirty herself with other guys, so that her husband feels like her attention is something to fight for. I don't think it's really going to be possible to make her husband stop being flirty, he's a guy first of all and second of all if it's in his personality to be that way it's not going to change - it's ingrained. Playing into it, making herself the pretty girl he focuses on, will probably do more to help the situation than trying to force him to stop.

The thing is, you say "nowhere does it say you have to tolerate this unless it's in the bounds of your relationship" but to be honest that would make her have to gamble - either make him stop or leave the relationship. Is leaving the relationship better than learning to tolerate it? That, only she can decide...it's not an abstract "you don't have to tolerate this" view, it's a "is this intolerable enough to leave" view.

And yes I'm addressing this from her perspective, because she's the one who asked. You could just as easily ask the guy if it's worth losing the relationship over, but he's not the one who would leave the relationship over it, she would. So if she's not willing to leave, whether he's willing to lose the relationship over it is irrelevant.

Also - she called into his show, and asked for his advice. So it's not wrong for him to answer from his own perspective ("this is what I would recommend") rather than in an abstract "some people would do this some people would do that" because she could have gotten that from any magazine, she specifically sought out that guy's opinion so she was obviously interested in his take on relationships.

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RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband fli... - 6/13/2010 5:58:25 AM   
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quote:

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Personally I agree that the guy's freaking nuts (isn't he the one who said Haiti sold their souls to the devil?) but I don't think it's necessarily bad advice, nor do I think it's about "submission" in any form I've heard of.

Yep, that was him.

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RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband fli... - 6/13/2010 6:20:11 AM   
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God bless Pat Roberstson for his well though out advice!


Put on your red dancing shoes and make yourself pretty.

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RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband fli... - 6/13/2010 6:20:37 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead


quote:

ORIGINAL: Elisabella
Personally I agree that the guy's freaking nuts (isn't he the one who said Haiti sold their souls to the devil?) but I don't think it's necessarily bad advice, nor do I think it's about "submission" in any form I've heard of.

Yep, that was him.


Haha what a weirdo.

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RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband fli... - 6/13/2010 6:51:50 AM   
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Either I am under-estimating this, or misunderstanding it.  But who cares if your husband, or your girl likes to flirt?  That, to me, is the small stuff.  Now, if he wants to have sex with everyone he flirts with, that would be a different story since it would leave me open to whatever std's the woman may have.  But just flirting?  So what!!  (Besides....I'm the best thing my husbands ever had.  He was the lucky one to win me over, all those years ago!! )

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RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband fli... - 6/13/2010 7:02:28 AM   
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Or, the flirtatious man could move to India with his wife, where she meets with a mysterious, kerosene-based cooking accident. Problem solved.

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RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband fli... - 6/13/2010 7:06:19 AM   
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I am a Christian, but also would say that Pat Robertson is an idiot. He is the male equivolent of Helen Thomas. His advice on flirting is on track though, but husbands could also do the same. I see a lot of slobs out there with cute wifes..

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RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband fli... - 6/13/2010 7:59:36 AM   
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I don't like Pat Robertson but I agree with his advice completely.

He's right.

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