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RE: Setting headspace, trying new things, and needlepla... - 6/22/2010 8:42:19 PM

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So, I haven't had a chance to try the pen yet with piercing, but we did for cell popping, and it made it so much easier to do what I wanted while being able to stay connected. Instead of guessing where the next spot needed to be, I could do a couple of dots, pull her hair, do a couple more, slap her face while looking into her eyes, and so forth. :) I did that a bit with our previous piercing scene as well, and did it in smaller bits. I still think the pen will make it even easier to have a balance between technical focus, artistic focus, and staying connected with her.

I'll e-mail Maria about this, but some other people might have the same difficulty and appreciate a more public answer. When we played with needles last time, I had her show me the one-handed technique. It worked well for about 3/4 of the playpiercings, but the rest, especially with the needle pointing downward, wanted to travel under the skin rather than coming back up easily. I did have to use my free hand to apply some pressure, but off to the side, about 1/2" away. It still felt safer than pinching the skin, as my fingers weren't so close to the needle. Any suggestions on that, or is it just a matter of more practice?

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RE: Setting headspace, trying new things, and needlepla... - 6/23/2010 1:19:27 AM

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For those who wonder why some of us do one handed piercing, its so we have a much lower risk of taking a needlestick injury.
If you observe some play pierces, you will see that the free hand is precariously close to where the needle point exits the skin. Its not possible to do every piercing with your free hand behind your back or generally just out of the way. There are places where the skin needs to be compressed or manipulated so that the needle can exit (but most can be done one handed). I think that Andalusite will agree with me that when and if the second hand is needed, 200% attention is required towards that exiting needle.

On Friday a friend and me did some flesh hook suspension. I had gloved up and prepped the recipient but wasn't paying enough attention when I drove the piercing needle out of its package and consequently stabbed myself! Fortunately it was just a case of throwing the needle away, putting a plaster over my wound and re-gloving. It wasn't a cross contamination scenario but it was still a sharp (excuse pun) reminder that I wasn't paying enough attention.

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RE: Setting headspace, trying new things, and needlepla... - 6/23/2010 8:39:55 AM

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That's a very good point, I'm super careful when I'm dealing with the packaging and exposing the needle, and make sure my free hand is not in the line of fire! I'm glad it wasn't anything serious. Thanks for the clarification on the one-handed aspect! I think the percentage of the time I'll need to use the free hand will go down with more experience, and I agree it feels much safer this way.

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RE: Setting headspace, trying new things, and needlepla... - 6/23/2010 8:55:58 AM

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I'm one of those folks who doesn't get bent out of joint if all of My knots aren't perfectly symmetrical if I actually use rope and the only scripts I ever use for scenes is if it's some kind of public demo.

You rock sister Too many people have forgotten how to work organically. I recently watched some amazing bondage that made my head spin. This was off the cuff stuff that had so much energy and life that it was mesmerizing. The rope experts all stood around commenting on how she hadn't tied certain knots off properly and how the symmetry was all wrong. These guys have become engineers of perfection and wouldn't know how to turn rope into a sensual act if they tried. I agree with you, go with the flow, feel the movement of the flesh, the power of the body and put your own very unique touch to what your doing.

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Your spacing is going to come along the more you practice. It's like anything else that you set out to do. You can always get yourself some peaches and some straight pins and go to town. It will keep your costs low and allow you to practice your small 'visions' of art. Then, when it's time to play with a person, you have your technique without losing the spiritual connection that playing with needles can be.
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Spiritual connection is what needle play is all about for me. I absolutely can't just do needles on someone just because they are a willing participant. Neither do I understand people who use needles as a dominant game (though each to their own) because I, the piercer, am nothing other than the gate keeper of a beautiful world beyond. I guide them in and I bring them back out!

One of these days I really do hope to meet up with you.

I can't tell you how refreshing it was to read this. I love symetry as well but I love the moment more and the emotional connection most of all and I see so much right now that lacks all of that. Nice to know there are others who feel the same way!

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RE: Setting headspace, trying new things, and needlepla... - 6/23/2010 10:31:17 AM

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Thanks Michael

from what I understand about you, I think we are pretty similar in our outlook.

I think when your learning to do something, especially something as intricate as play piercing, you need to get into the habit of safe practice and to do that it may feel like there is a thousand things to remember. When I have run piercing workshops I obviously concentrate on teaching safe and clean practice. I have heard comments like, 'but all this safety stuff takes away the fun'. It doesn't and it shouldn't The habit of safe and clean practice adds to the ritual and makes it all the more enjoyable.

People like Andalusite are a pleasure to chat to because the journey they have both embarked on is an informed and educated one. Things only get better from there. I watch too many people playing around with sharps. I have to walk away because it frightens me. I just wish more people would take the time to educate themselves and understand that that little pointy needle could have death written all over it.

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RE: Setting headspace, trying new things, and needlepla... - 6/23/2010 11:13:17 PM

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I am just thankful for the training I had both as a paramedic in civilian life and cross trained in the SF in both the Australian and US military. IT served me well in combat and later in civilian life and now in BDSM "play" areas. I find the safety first mindset has more advantages than disadvantages. I'm also very thankful for the awesome people posting on this subject as a means of advancing my education too..

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RE: Setting headspace, trying new things, and needlepla... - 6/24/2010 6:52:11 AM

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Thanks so much, Maria! *blushing* I know that I can't learn exclusively online, but some of the things you've mentioned have given me the right questions to ask and things to try to make my exploration as safe and fun as possible.

IB, I've taken the first aid and CPR class/certification several times (each only lasts a year or two), and I'm always interested in learning more about safety and good technique, especially for anything at all edgy or likely to be dangerous. While there is a lot of overlap, some aspects aren't immediately obvious or intuitive. I'm so glad you've picked up a couple of ideas in this thread!

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