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Owner59 -> Gulf Oil Spill,ala McCain/Palin and Rolling Stone (6/13/2010 4:02:28 PM)

I keep asking Obama`s critics to tell what they would do differently down there.

Dead silence.

So here`s your chance republicans.

Tell us what John McCain or Sarah Palin would be doing(that Obama`s not)to deal with this disaster?

Specifically.How do we plug the leak, 5000 feet down?

Please please please do tell.

The suspense is killing us,errrrrr,the Gulf Of Mexico.

The left is also critizing Obama,for not being farther to the left.....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100610/ts_ynews/ynews_ts2532








Brain -> RE: Gulf Oil Spill,ala McCain/Palin and Rolling Stone (6/13/2010 4:17:50 PM)

This article is from a website for oil industry professionals.
They would do this, same difference.

RIGZONE - Obama to Reopen Drilling

The Obama administration, facing rising anger on the Gulf Coast over the loss of jobs and income from a drilling moratorium, said Monday that it would move quickly to release new safety requirements that would allow the reopening of offshore oil and gas exploration in shallow waters.
Gulf Coast residents, political leaders and industry officials said delays in releasing the new rules, along with the administration's six-month halt on deepwater drilling -- both issued amid public pressure -- threatened thousands of jobs.

http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=94412






Fellow -> RE: Gulf Oil Spill,ala McCain/Palin and Rolling Stone (6/13/2010 4:18:15 PM)

quote:

Tell us what John McCain or Sarah Palin would be doing(that Obama`s not)to deal with this disaster?


The artickle claims Obama downplayed the scope of the disaster. The government should mobilize government resources to deal with the disaster. Also, it should mobilize international expertise.  For example, US government turned back  Great Britain's offer to help with the clean-up [ http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7149576.ece ]




Owner59 -> RE: Gulf Oil Spill,ala McCain/Palin and Rolling Stone (6/13/2010 4:37:46 PM)

A valid point.

But it wasn`t Obama who down-played it.Every BP official did and Obama believed them.He also believed them when they said they had a back up plan.But now we know that neither stories were true.

I`ll blame Obama for being to trusting and for being duped by smooth talking Brits.

http://www.youtube.com/user/BPplc?v=KKcrDaiGE2s&feature=pyv&ad=5953529293&kw=bp%20oil%20spill

I still don`t trust that bugerer.

I doubt tho that McCain`s 1st reaction would have been to accept outside help.Or even admit there was a problem,ie.,the RNC talking points,.... til now.

Last I heard,there is a armada of ships steaming to the gulf from the north sea.

Who`s ships are those?




AnimusRex -> RE: Gulf Oil Spill,ala McCain/Palin and Rolling Stone (6/13/2010 5:31:23 PM)

Well, during WWII, Roosevelt issued a directive forcing auto companies and aircraft companies to only build what the government wanted; so they were not allowed to use scarce supplies for consumer goods. Essentially, the government took over the major industries that were strategically vital.

And in 1949, I believe, when there was a crippling railroad strike, Harry Truman used executive power to staff the railroads with Army personell, again forcefully taking over a vital national asset.

I am not saying Obama should nationalize BP and take it over; I am just saying there is ample precedent. As Fox news is fond of reminding us, WE ARE AT WAR!!




Jeffff -> RE: Gulf Oil Spill,ala McCain/Palin and Rolling Stone (6/13/2010 5:34:47 PM)

Socialists! both of them

Those weak asses make me puke!




Owner59 -> RE: Gulf Oil Spill,ala McCain/Palin and Rolling Stone (6/13/2010 5:52:47 PM)

Well,I hear in Socialist Canada,they require back-up wells before extraction begins......[:D]




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Gulf Oil Spill,ala McCain/Palin and Rolling Stone (6/13/2010 9:17:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Last I heard,there is a armada of ships steaming to the gulf from the north sea.

Who`s ships are those?



They're from Europe, so they must be socialist ships! Our very way of life is in peril.




Marini -> RE: Gulf Oil Spill,ala McCain/Palin and Rolling Stone (6/13/2010 9:19:39 PM)

The majority of President Obama's critics have no "real solution".
They just don't want to miss a great opportunity to trash President Obama of course.
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ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Gulf Oil Spill,ala McCain/Palin and Rolling Stone (6/13/2010 9:23:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Well,I hear in Socialist Canada,they require back-up wells before extraction begins......[:D]


No, that article was wrong. It's not true, unfortunately.




Owner59 -> RE: Gulf Oil Spill,ala McCain/Palin and Rolling Stone (6/13/2010 9:40:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Well,I hear in Socialist Canada,they require back-up wells before extraction begins......[:D]


No, that article was wrong. It's not true, unfortunately.


My mistake.They are required to have the equipment and a response plan in place,before drilling.

Ironically,the Canucks are considering relaxing those rules.

Thanks for the correction.




Brain -> RE: Gulf Oil Spill,ala McCain/Palin and Rolling Stone (6/13/2010 9:59:22 PM)

Not ironic to me, something I would expect Harper to do – he’s ruled by ideology.




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Gulf Oil Spill,ala McCain/Palin and Rolling Stone (6/13/2010 11:22:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

Well,I hear in Socialist Canada,they require back-up wells before extraction begins......[:D]


No, that article was wrong. It's not true, unfortunately.


My mistake.They are required to have the equipment and a response plan in place,before drilling.

Ironically,the Canucks are considering relaxing those rules.

Thanks for the correction.


Oh, no, not your mistake at all. You weren't the only one to get fooled by it, bro. CNN is still reporting it as fact, or at least they were Friday. Reuters misled a lot of people with that article. Poor reporting on their part.




Moonhead -> RE: Gulf Oil Spill,ala McCain/Palin and Rolling Stone (6/14/2010 5:34:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Fellow

quote:

Tell us what John McCain or Sarah Palin would be doing(that Obama`s not)to deal with this disaster?


The artickle claims Obama downplayed the scope of the disaster. The government should mobilize government resources to deal with the disaster. Also, it should mobilize international expertise.  For example, US government turned back  Great Britain's offer to help with the clean-up [ http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7149576.ece ]


Are you surprised? His predecessor turned down help with Katrina, iirc.




KITTYLECTRO -> RE: Gulf Oil Spill,ala McCain/Palin and Rolling Stone (6/14/2010 6:43:33 AM)

Let's go golfing! 

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thishereboi -> RE: Gulf Oil Spill,ala McCain/Palin and Rolling Stone (6/14/2010 10:25:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Marini

The majority of President Obama's critics have no "real solution".
They just don't want to miss a great opportunity to trash President Obama of course.
[8|]
 


That's right, they should be taking lessons from those on the left who never jumped on a chance to bash our ex pres.

but back to the topic. I don't think Obama is downplaying it. In fact from the email I just got. He thinks the whole thing is very serious.

Friend --

The BP oil spill in the Gulf Coast is the worst environmental disaster of its kind in our nation's history. I am returning to the region today to review our efforts and meet with families and business owners affected by the catastrophe.

We are working to hold BP accountable for the damage to the lands and the livelihoods of the Gulf Coast, and we are taking strong precautions to make certain a spill like this never happens again.

But our work will not end with this crisis. That's one of the reasons why last week I invited lawmakers from both parties to join me at the White House to discuss what it will take to move forward on legislation to promote a new economy powered by green jobs, combat climate change, and end our dependence on foreign oil.

Today, we consume more than 20 percent of the world's oil, but have less than two percent of the world's oil reserves. Beyond the risks inherent in drilling four miles beneath the surface of the Earth, our dependence on oil means that we will continue to send billions of dollars of our hard-earned wealth to other countries every month -- including many in dangerous and unstable regions.

In other words, our continued dependence on fossil fuels will jeopardize our national security. It will smother our planet. And it will continue to put our economy and our environment at risk. We cannot delay any longer, and that is why I am asking for your help.

The time has come, once and for all, for this nation to fully embrace a new future. That means continuing our unprecedented effort to make everything -- from our homes and businesses to our cars and trucks -- more energy-efficient. It means rolling back billions of dollars of tax breaks to oil companies so we can prioritize investments in clean energy research and development.

Many businesses support this agenda because shifting to clean energy creates opportunities for entrepreneurship. This is how we will reinvent our economy -- and create new companies and new jobs all across the country.

There will be transition costs and a time of adjustment. But if we refuse to heed the warnings from the disaster in the Gulf -- we will have missed our best chance to seize the clean-energy future we know America needs to thrive in the years and decades to come.

The House of Representatives has already passed a comprehensive energy and climate bill, and there is currently a plan in the Senate -- a plan that was developed with ideas from Democrats and Republicans -- that would achieve the same goal. But this is an issue that Washington has long ignored in favor of protecting the status quo.

So I'm asking for your help today to show that the American people are ready for a clean-energy future.


Thank you,

President Barack Obama





Sanity -> RE: Gulf Oil Spill,ala McCain/Palin and Rolling Stone (6/14/2010 3:16:04 PM)


I agree with Rush's take on Obama's handling of the crisis:

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[image]http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/spc.gif[/image] Man-Child President Insists He's Been on the Case Since Day One


[image]http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today.parcoltop22.33976.ImageFile.jpg[/image]


http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today.guest.html





ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Gulf Oil Spill,ala McCain/Palin and Rolling Stone (6/14/2010 3:17:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


I agree with Rush's take on Obama's handling of the crisis:


No kidding! Gee, what are the odds of that?




Musicmystery -> RE: Gulf Oil Spill,ala McCain/Palin and Rolling Stone (6/14/2010 3:19:01 PM)

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I agree with Rush's take


Imagine our shocked bewilderment.





Sanity -> RE: Gulf Oil Spill,ala McCain/Palin and Rolling Stone (6/14/2010 3:23:35 PM)


Imagine our shocked bewilderment when you tried to blame the entire thing on Dick Cheney.




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