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Doomsayers - 6/15/2010 1:42:44 AM   
Termyn8or


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Status: offline 		I've noticed that some are aware of our upcoming strife. That they see as I do that this system is unsustainable. However there is too much talk of shit hitting the fan. By that I mean that some think there is going to be one day when everything is going fine and the next day you will lose your job, all the grocery stores will close and all utilities will be shut off overnight. That all in one fell swoop you won't have anything, nor be able to buy anything with the currency that has becaome absolutely worthless overnight.

This is not how it is going to happen folks. In fact it is already happening. It will be gradual. The erosion of our living standards will happen, but over some time.

You see the powers that be cannot let every US Citizen fall flat tomorrow morning at eight AM sharp. It is not in their best interest to do so and the resources will be "found" to break our fall. So for all the chicken littles out there, the sky is not falling, it has already fallen, but it's thick and we are just waiting for the rest of it to get down here.

In other words, we are already in it. I don't mean to be discouraging, in fact quite the opposite. We are already withstanding the storm, whether we realize it or not. See I remembwer things. I remember living like a fucking King on two hundred bucks a week.

What do all their fuckups involve ? - MONEY. That's not even so bad. Granted if you got old money in the bank it is worth half what it was, maybe less, but it is still worth something. We might get to the point where what a new car used to cost will get you a loaf of bread, but so what ? You think the guy next door is doing much better ? We are all in this together.

It will be rough. We caused it. You caused it when you bought that plasma TV. I caused it when I bought those laptops and shit, all the PC gear. You caused it when you bought a new Hyundai, I caused it when I bought an HP laser printer. You caused it when you bought the Blaupunkt car stereo from Crutchfield, I caused it when I bough a grand worth of high end VCRs (one beta one VHS). We all caused it.

But you see they can't let us crash all at once, causing starvation and people freezing to death in the cold. It doesn't serve their purposes. What they want is control. Basic tenet - go ahead and bite the hand that feeds you. Get the picture now ?

It is plain to see. Like Abe Lincoln said - something to the effect that - if you see a clearing and a bunch of logs, and later see a log cabin, there was a plan. Right in front of your eyes. But like I said there are a few things that aren't all that bad.

First of all we go to near third world status. People won't have money for TVs and ipods and all that fucking garbage and will again produce. What exactly I am not sure. But the reason they will not let us just drop dead is because they know that properly motivated, we can again produce wealth which they can harvest.

This is the Termy report. Alll of this shit is already happening. There is no stopping it, just figure out how to deal with it. I will or I will perish, and the same goes for you. But in the end they are going to figure on taking a ride back up - on our backs.

In a fairly optimistic mode that is the way I see it, there will be some problems, but after that a second chance. A chance to rebuild, but better and stronger. All it takes is for people to wake up, get the brain into operational mode and see how these motherfuckers operate, and when the time is right, shut their asses down on the next go around. We have years to educate and/or become educated on these matters. A new set of standards needs to be applied.

Once they don't kill us our value is established, learn to use that. You think I can walk into work and tell them I am not working today because I did a bunch of coke and they then give me money for weed because I am a lackie ? No fucking way. I called the boss a motherfucker the other day. That's what we need to do with the real motherfuckers, the ones who run this country, into the ground I might add.

And they are motherfuckers, because nobody could be so incompetent. It has been said to not attribute to malice what could be incompetence, but I am now convinced otherwise. But in our inferior position I find some strength, the greatest of which is that our adversay does not want us dead. We have to learn to use that.

Again it will be survival of the fittest, but the parameters of just what is fittest are changing. Analyse and adapt or perish. Careful planning now can make the big fall practically unnoticable, following along, you will drown like the lemmings do in California every once in a while. It is your choice.

I write these words because in what has been and will remain a class war is going to change, and I want to urge people to educate themselves for it. I don't think I have much time left, I think what almost killed me last year really did and I am just waiting for the rest of the outcome. NOW is the time to be thinking about this. Put the fucking video game down.

Think now about softening the blow to yourself and your family. Remember everybody didn't just drop dead in the last depression. But this time around it would behoove us to figure out how not to make this happen again. Yes US, not THEM. To avoid dependence on what they offer is key. You got two kids, you don't need a fucking yacht. You don't need a palatial mansion in which to raise them in the aire of opulence, this only spoils them. People died with millions in their mattress, and their kids are engineers and shit like that. Others raised politicians who suck the life out of them.

But in the end, the answer is within us. We choose that we don't have to mortgage our lives to live in a fashion we cannot afford. We decide to live within our means. We decide we don't need an HDTV, the old one looks fine. We decide to drive that car for another year. We decide that we don't need 300 channels on the cable.

You understand now ? We were the fuel for our own demise. Don't do it again and we will come out of this just fine.

T
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RE: Doomsayers - 6/15/2010 5:11:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		I do not fear the 'death' of the planet. I fear for the death of the people. This planet will survive and become pristine again a couple of thousand years later.

While the mountain is tall we let all of the little stones fall. Oilspills, earthquakes, fires and plumes of black smoke, hurricanes, meteorites (not a happy vision I have had), obesity, random shootings, acid rain.

Too many people and not enough brains.

On a side note I am completely prepared for the onslaught of man and nature.

Break glass in case of DOOM.


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RE: Doomsayers - 6/15/2010 9:02:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		HA, reminds me of somethng. We've all seen "In case of emergency break glass". My little joke was it had to be changed because people were so stupid to "In case of emergency break THIS glass".

So you are completely prepared eh ? Wouldn't that include knowing when it starts ? That's what I am saying, it has started already. Like I said it's not going to happen overnight, it already is happening day and night, gradually. We already have a value inversion.

The Tek with the electronic trigger, that won't fire unless it is in the owner's hand, you can have it for a hundred bucks. The 100 year old .38 is not for sale at any price. That beautiful Caddilac with the Northstar engine, a hundred bucks. The 1969 Chevy pickup truck out back is not for sale. The 57" widescreen HDTV a couple hundred bucks. The 1989 36" XBR is not for sale. The ritzy spare house we have in the great neighborhood, you can have it for seventy grand. My place built in 1905 very near the slums is not for sale.

The value you thought you had - you don't have. In some ways the world is working in reverse. Move to the burbs to avoid crime ? How's that working out for ya ? Down here the thugs know we are used to the jungle and never know when they might get their ass kicked or shot. Everything everyone worked so hard for, to have it better than me, has nothing. It was not down here where my buddy's Harley got stolen. It was from a locked garage at his house in a neighborhood carefully chosen for it's lower crime rate. Lotta good it did him. And I'm sure he enjoys writing that check every month for the grand a month house payment. And now he has a bike payment as well because the insurance did not cover the full value. Why ? Because nothing is worth a shit.

Doubt me, go ahead, but before you do, name me ten things that do not depreciate. Things that are worth as much when they are ten or twenty years old as they were when brand new. Gets harder every year.

Name me one safe place. Last time I heard of a Woman getting abducted and raped, whatever, it didn't happen down here in the jungle. Her olman would be pissed. It happened in an upscale area at a shopping mall parking lot in broad daylight.

In my estimation we are about a fourth of the way through our unenrichment. Nothing is of substance, even the money used to buy it. It's bad and going to get alot worse, but that doesn't mean everybody is going to drop dead in April or anything like that. But things are not what they seem.

One thing I noticed is my buddy's new Electra Glide Classic. When idling it sounds like a four cylinder car. Dammit, it has no character, he should partially foul one of the plugs or something, it just doesn't sound like a motorcycle, let alone a Harley. What we had is gone. Everything. Did you know about the designer drugs law ? Let's not even go there now, just suffice it to say that there are so many laws now they can just pick and choose who they want to lock up in jail. Does that please you ? Do you see it as a sign of progress ? That we've evolved somehow ? I don't.

Our society is pretty much getting torn down and rebuilt. The only thing we can do as the bricks is to exercise some control over the way we fit together, thus making us stronger than the mason. This is our only chance for a better life, and of course we have to live through the current process, which is pretty much demolition.

So in the end, we can have it better on the next go. We can't fall for their tricks. We can't have a new car every year and send old faithful to Cash For Clunkers. We tell them to stick their plasma TVs up their ass. Get off the fucking phone. You don't need 43,000 minutes a month. Fuck the boob tube altogether. Let's do it right this time. We might not have caused this problem, but the fact of it is undeniable, all this shit would've died a quick death if we, the true source of all wealth had not supported it. And why did we ? Because of childish desires.

The time was ripe. We have so much that we want we are forgetting about what we need. That's OK though because a very strong reminder is well on it's way. Again, not overnight, gradually. And this is actually how the PTB want it. With our appetite trimmed a bit they will see more opportunity for exploitation. It's simple, just don't give it to them, like we did last time. Realize that in their mouth, the word economy is a bad thing. Know who they are and how they are. Learn how fortunes are gained and lost. An educated public is the best defense against damnear anything.

Exploitation is a different word than stealing for a reason. You have to allow yourself to be exploited. It's a damn shame that they prey on the weak, meek and the young or immature. We can be none of those things anymore. It is time for all of us to grow the fuck up and act like adults. Get away from materialism. Toys are for tots. Entertainment is for the bored, and noone should be bored.

Things like this have happened elsewhere in the world. It is simply our turn. Use it to your advantage. Turn a loser into a winner. That is my job, in fact an integral part of my being. And no whining, it empowers our enemies.

T

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RE: Doomsayers - 6/15/2010 9:22:55 AM   
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I remember living like a fucking King on two hundred bucks a week.


What does this mean? When? A time without inflation?

What cost $200 in 1800 would cost $2490.75 in 2009.
What cost $200 in 1950 would cost $1763.04 in 2009.
What cost $200 in 1970 would cost $1092.78 in 2009.
What cost $200 in 1990 would cost $324.15 in 2009.

So let's take 1970, forty years ago. Probably roughly what you remember. $200 then would be $56,824.56/year now.

Hell, I make more than that, and I wouldn't call it "living like a king."

More likely, you remember a time when you were young and thought, as we all did at that age, that if you had a few bucks in your pocket, you were rich.

Responsibility came later.



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RE: Doomsayers - 6/15/2010 9:30:03 AM   
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RE: Doomsayers - 6/15/2010 10:03:01 AM   
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What a load of bollocks OP.


Really! We are living better now than we ever have in history. We have better health, greater longevity, and a greater variety of food and material goods for entertainment and comfort. Plus we fuck more often. Look it up.

The OP is bollocks as you say, DC.

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RE: Doomsayers - 6/15/2010 11:17:40 AM   
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name me ten things that do not depreciate. Things that are worth as much when they are ten or twenty years old as they were when brand new.


5.56/.223

9mm

.45

7.62 x 51/.308

7.62 x 39

22LR

.40 S&W

.38/.357

12 Gauge

A reloader and dies for any of the above.

Properly stored. (Or properly buried.) These Items only go up in value and given the right circumstances they could well be more valuable than gold.

As for me, my personal horde of ammunition and reloading supplies was lost in a tragic boating accident.

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RE: Doomsayers - 6/15/2010 11:26:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		OP: Yes, it is already happening, and many don't even know it. But more and more are clueing in.

While it has been somewhat gradual, there's the chance that it could escalate. I'm sure you know your history. It starts gradually, and then there's a crash. No, not overnight, but within a few weeks. When the mad rush is on for food, water, guns, gold and silver, etc, you will NOT see any in stores. Hell, I'm sure you're old enough to remember lining up for hours (or days) to buy gasoline, at certain times. Well, the US and the world are far less fundamentally sound now than they were then. Next time something like that happens, it might not resolve itself so easily.

"We are living better now than we ever have in history. We have better health, greater longevity, and a greater variety of food and material goods for entertainment and comfort."
It's THESE people who are truly fucked. Luckily for them, they don't know it, and probably won't.

As for things that don't depreciate, that would be everything tangible in the world except paper money. Things don't "lose value". Fiat money does.


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RE: Doomsayers - 6/15/2010 12:02:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		A lot of people don't understand that the crash of 29 didn't happen all in one day...It took months for the Great Depression to set in.

I don't worry about Mad Max...I worry about the return of John Dillenger, Bonnie & Clyde, Pretty Boy Floyd and Machine Gun Kelly. All of them and many more less well known names the products of the Depression.

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RE: Doomsayers - 6/15/2010 12:14:34 PM   
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You see the powers that be cannot let every US Citizen fall flat tomorrow morning at eight AM sharp. It is not in their best interest to do so and the resources will be "found" to break our fall.


Why do I have this picture in my mind of the Brother X Afro Guy from a late night comedy show saying...

You Sees! It be the POWERS THAT BE...Thats THE MAN! You see we Elected Brother Obama to FIGHT THE MAN! Now OBAMA He Be THE MAN! So Yo'us sees. Obama will just Print mo money and wefair to break ouw Fall.

You see this is the problen with the O.P's post in a nut shell. He assumes theres some sort of Illuminati, comspiracy theory "The Man", thats going to use some unknown and unsubstantiated pool of money or resources to "Break out fall"

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RE: Doomsayers - 6/15/2010 12:31:47 PM   
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"We are living better now than we ever have in history. We have better health, greater longevity, and a greater variety of food and material goods for entertainment and comfort."
It's THESE people who are truly fucked. Luckily for them, they don't know it, and probably won't.

As for things that don't depreciate, that would be everything tangible in the world except paper money. Things don't "lose value". Fiat money does.


Oh fuck. Tell me housing values have not dropped precipitously these past several years!!! Or aren't brick and mortar on your list of tangibles?

When I said "We" are living better now than we ever have in history, I meant you too. Can you deny that life is better today than .... pick any date in the past and any metrics commonly used to make the comparison. How's that polio vacine working, doomsboy? How is the price of food and the comfort of that new car?

And what is your basis for either of the following statements? Or are you just blowing wind out your arse? All sound and no substance like the horns at footie.

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Well, the US and the world are far less fundamentally sound now than they were then. Next time something like that happens, it might not resolve itself so easily.


You gonna be sad when catastrophe does not happen? You're praying so hard for it.

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RE: Doomsayers - 6/15/2010 12:34:42 PM   
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Properly stored. (Or properly buried.) These Items only go up in value and given the right circumstances they could well be more valuable than gold.


Right, DLH, given the right circumstances anything could go up in value.

If the Queen had balls she would be King.

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RE: Doomsayers - 6/15/2010 12:42:34 PM   
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Our society is pretty much getting torn down and rebuilt. The only thing we can do as the bricks is to exercise some control over the way we fit together, thus making us stronger than the mason. This is our only chance for a better life, and of course we have to live through the current process, which is pretty much demolition.


Of course there is another alternative that often kicks in before "demolition", That alternative is Revolution.

Not that I would ever hope for that because most revolutions in history have born a far closer resemblance to the Terror during the French Revolution or Pol Pot in Cambodia than 1776.

If we ever had another civil war in this country I fear it would look a lot more like Bosnia than Gettysburg.

The Latte drinking, Gun Control, Metrosexual Liberals with their grand illusion of Social Engineering and Control need to understand that once the Conservatives and Libertarians decide they've been pushed to hard towards communist Utopia...They'll cut the large cities and urban centers highway, rail, electrical and communication arteries and at that point...Well all the liberals and other urban dwellers are just 9 meals away from anarchy. The liberal urban centers then become self cleaning ovens.



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RE: Doomsayers - 6/15/2010 12:57:34 PM   
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RE: Doomsayers - 6/15/2010 1:06:08 PM   
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2.  my gram lived the depression and turned out just fine.

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RE: Doomsayers - 6/15/2010 1:07:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DarwinsLilHelper

Of course there is another alternative that often kicks in before "demolition", That alternative is Revolution.

Not that I would ever hope for that because most revolutions in history have born a far closer resemblance to the Terror during the French Revolution or Pol Pot in Cambodia than 1776.

If we ever had another civil war in this country I fear it would look a lot more like Bosnia than Gettysburg.

The Latte drinking, Gun Control, Metrosexual Liberals with their grand illusion of Social Engineering and Control need to understand that once the Conservatives and Libertarians decide they've been pushed to hard towards communist Utopia...They'll cut the large cities and urban centers highway, rail, electrical and communication arteries and at that point...Well all the liberals and other urban dwellers are just 9 meals away from anarchy. The liberal urban centers then become self cleaning ovens.




This is really sick.

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RE: Doomsayers - 6/15/2010 1:13:26 PM   
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He does not think there is an establishment.

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RE: Doomsayers - 6/15/2010 1:14:32 PM   
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This is really sick.


What? You think their only discussing "iced or Brewed" at all those tea parties.




:No. Sick would be if I'd described what would happen to a poor little Liberal subby, during such Urban unrest, when armed gang members drag her shrieking from her and her lib Dom's Prius. Her Lib Dom's Blood and brains running down the front of her OBAMA HOPE shirt, his "I don't need a gun" ninja self defense skills having not availed him of one additional second of life and then described what said gang members teaching poor little, Lib, subby girl, what real dominance usually involves.

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RE: Doomsayers - 6/15/2010 1:15:55 PM   
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RE: Doomsayers - 6/15/2010 1:17:38 PM   
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No, she was commenting on your dumb ass world view.


What does this mean Jefff?

It means you no longer can go shoe shopping with my credit card!


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