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Thoughts on President Obama's first speech from Oval Of... - 6/15/2010 8:18:47 PM

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Any thoughts on President Obama's speech tonight?

I thought President Obama gave a serious and effective speech tonight.
I am glad he gave a detailed plan on what will be done to clean up the oil spill, and gulf coast restoration.
President Obama seems to have created a real "battle plan".

I agree that we are too dependent on foreign oil, but I still don't see that changing any time soon.
I think "clean energy" is the way to go, but I just don't see it changing the way we are doing business in a big way, any time soon.

.....I liked the part where President Obama stated that GOD was with us in the midst of the storm.
I noticed that President Obama mentioned GOD, at least 4-5 times.

Thoughts on President Obama's first speech from the Oval Office?

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RE: Thoughts on President Obama's first speech from Ova... - 6/15/2010 8:56:23 PM

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I hate to say this but I wasn't inspired. I found it very predictable and what I really want is action. Unfortunately I got bored and changed the channel. Did he say anything about using the Navy, maybe using a submarine, or professionals in the military? Did he say anything about using all the resources of the other oil companies to create some synergy to be more effective? I will say however I would decline to have a beer with George Bush and prefer to have it with Obama.

Did he say anything about using other oil tankers to get the oil out of the water? Or how about
this:

Robert Reich: Why the United States Still Can't Get BP to Do What's Necessary

I've got a better idea. Wouldn't it be far simpler for the White House (stating that the Pollution Control Act of 1990 gives it authority) to put BP's American operations into temporary receivership? That way, Obama can take over BP's assets here and use its expertise to stop the leak and clean up the mess as soon as possible -- and leave the subsequent years of bickering to the courts.

Extra bonus: It shows the public the president is really in charge.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-reich/why-the-united-states-sti_b_610469.html

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RE: Thoughts on President Obama's first speech from Ova... - 6/15/2010 8:57:44 PM

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He really wowed them over at MSNBC:

quote:

Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann and Howard Fineman react to President Obama's Oval Office Address on the oil spill. Here are the highlights of what the trio said:

Olbermann: "It was a great speech if you were on another planet for the last 57 days."

Matthews compared Obama to Carter.

Olbermann: "Nothing specific at all was said."

Matthews: "No direction."

Howard Fineman: "He wasn't specific enough."

Olbermann: "I don't think he aimed low, I don't think he aimed at all. It's startling."

Howard Fineman: Obama should be acting like a "commander-in-chief."

Matthews: Ludicrous that he keeps saying [Secretary of Energy] Chu has a Nobel prize. "I'll barf if he does it one more time."

Matthews: "A lot of meritocracy, a lot of blue ribbon talk."

Matthews: "I don't sense executive command."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/06/15/msnbc_trashes_obamas_address_compared_to_carter_i_dont_sense_executive_command.html

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RE: Thoughts on President Obama's first speech from Ova... - 6/15/2010 9:13:23 PM

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Well Brain, I am not going to say it was boring.
But I had a long day, and I did take a little nap.

I did watch it again, when I woke up.

I thought the speech was "okay", not spectacular, but not bad either.

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RE: Thoughts on President Obama's first speech from Ova... - 6/15/2010 9:22:01 PM

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I guess I missed the part where he offered a "detailed plan." Sounded like more of the same to me. Blah, blah, blah, blah... "we're gonna do this... we'd gonna do that... someday. Maybe. I promise."

I can't believe I voted for this pompous airhead.

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RE: Thoughts on President Obama's first speech from Ova... - 6/15/2010 10:05:07 PM

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I wished he had talked bigger picture/alt energy future and stuff,but..........

He addressed the most immediate issues, which is his job, too

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RE: Thoughts on President Obama's first speech from Ova... - 6/15/2010 10:30:26 PM

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-- he is pushing for a global carbon tax. This is not good.

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RE: Thoughts on President Obama's first speech from Ova... - 6/15/2010 11:51:34 PM

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Why? Actually, I think it is good because it will mean people will use less oil and we can start using environmentally global wamingn friendly and cheap (sun/wind) energy. AND it will create jobs and be good for the economy.
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RE: Thoughts on President Obama's first speech from Ova... - 6/16/2010 12:40:01 AM

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With electric cars like this Focus a carbon tax won't matter.

Will Ford's Electric Car Strategy Succeed? : TreeHugger

Ford's strategy will allow it to easily switch between making conventional gas-powered cars and a range of other, different designs: diesel-powered cars, hybrids, plug-in hybrids, and electric vehicles. Rather than making a distinct plug-in hybrid electric vehicle model, as General Motors is doing with the Volt, which it will start selling at the end of this year, Ford plans to make a variety of electric propulsion options available on all of its top-selling cars worldwide.

"Going down the same assembly line, you can do battery electric, a plug-in hybrid, a hybrid, an efficient petrol, or an efficient diesel vehicle," says Nancy Gioia, Ford's director of global electrification. "That makes it very robust to what undoubtedly will be a volatile market for the next 10 years." (source)

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/06/ford-electric-car-plug-in-hybrids-strategy-electric-focus-2012.php

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RE: Thoughts on President Obama's first speech from Ova... - 6/16/2010 12:47:39 AM

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He's in over his head. He's an amateur.
And, what does he do? He fires the "Head" of some govt. (Minerals Management Service?)agency and replaces him with,.....a lawyer!
"Legislation" doesn't clean up oil from the beaches and water, manpower and machinary does.
And even that feckless rag the N.Y. Times said yesterday that the whole operation was a shambles!
"DAY 58" This is starting to feel like the Irainian hostage crisis back in '79 '80.

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RE: Thoughts on President Obama's first speech from Ova... - 6/16/2010 1:05:29 AM

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i wasn't rivited by his speech- but not a bad job by any means. i really don't know what everybody expects Obama to do. Sure, you can come up with 8 million different solutions, but really, he can only do so much- he STILL has to answer to OTHER people. if he wants to fire somebody, its his right to do so, and its one of his very limited powers. Is anybody still familar with checks and balences? he cant just give us action- he doesn't have that much power if nobody else is onboard. Its not a dictatorship where he can get things done(good or bad) when he wanted and how he wanted, otherwise- i'm sure tons of progress would have been made, regardless of who was president.

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RE: Thoughts on President Obama's first speech from Ova... - 6/16/2010 4:06:38 AM

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I agree MissA - I wonder what it is that people believe Obama can do that he isnt doing? Obviously I didnt see the speech but on this point I feel able to comment.

Yes, maybe more could be done now to clean up - but where is the equipment coming from? Its specialist stuff - you cant buy it off the shelf and whatever is available I should be sure is in use on the way into use right now. Manpower alone, which the US has in superabundance, is not going to resolve this.

And in the meantime the oil is still gushing out - and no one can do anything about that it seems, until the relief wells are drilled.

There are many things to criticise Obama for, but this oil spill is not one of them.

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RE: Thoughts on President Obama's first speech from Ova... - 6/16/2010 4:36:25 AM

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I don't think the plan was detailed enough. Although, Obama never in his life went (or intended to go) into the oil business. BP is kinda making him do his homework on the whole business. He has no choice but to listen to what the scientists and people, and BP's competitors are telling him, who do know about these things and can inform him. So I'm not surprised he had no definitive laid out plan cuz BP doesn't even have a definitive laid out plan. I'm disappointed in him for not taking more control/authority over BP's business. (and I know that may bring some to shout..."Capitolizism, people have a right to own a business and do what they want with it!!") Maybe giving them deadlines to do things or bring in another oil company to try? Lord knows he has his own scientists telling him what BP is telling him is not accurate. And we also know BP has a record for taking short cuts and this isnt the first time lives were lost and disasters happened as a direct result of BP's unregulated shortcuts and the decisions they make to take their cheaper shortcuts. And I'm not surprised Sanity is quoting Olberman and Matthews though, because he is one of those people who listen to MSNBC and those kinds of stations and quotes the words of those journalists as "news reporters" (although he says that station is for liberals

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RE: Thoughts on President Obama's first speech from Ova... - 6/16/2010 9:54:51 AM

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I think today in he got BP to agree to fund 20 billion for a recovery fund, which is more than the 75 million the law written in 1990 had them be responsible for and much more than the 10 billion the senate was trying to pass but the GOP said no to to much money for a corp to have to pay

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RE: Thoughts on President Obama's first speech from Ova... - 6/16/2010 9:57:21 AM

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With electric cars like this Focus a carbon tax won't matter./snip

Dude- power companies would be the hardest hit by a carbon tax. Shut off your lights. You use too much.

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RE: Thoughts on President Obama's first speech from Ova... - 6/16/2010 10:43:13 AM

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Chris Mathews and Keith Olberman are saying WTF after that speech, I guess that says it all.

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RE: Thoughts on President Obama's first speech from Ova... - 6/16/2010 11:04:23 AM

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So correct there, servant. Olberman and Matthews....no wait, lets take that a step further. ALL the people hosting liberal shows on MSNBC have the last word. So pay attention to them and pay attention good. Now and always!!

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RE: Thoughts on President Obama's first speech from Ova... - 6/16/2010 11:12:30 AM

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With electric cars like this Focus a carbon tax won't matter./snip

Dude- power companies would be the hardest hit by a carbon tax. Shut off your lights. You use too much.

That's part of the point of having a carbon tax in the first place, old boy.
And if the fuckers have any sense they'll take the miniscule loss it'd involve out of their mark ups rather than trying to pass it on to their customers: I can see a lot of generators selling well if they try to hike their bills to compensate for that.

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RE: Thoughts on President Obama's first speech from Ova... - 6/16/2010 11:16:32 AM

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Unlike some on here, I listen to many points of veiw. I did have to smile when Obama had these two wondering. He did not give one single detail on how this mess will get cleaned up and even his most ardent supporters are starting to realise it.

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RE: Thoughts on President Obama's first speech from Ova... - 6/16/2010 11:21:02 AM

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He did not give one single detail on how this mess will get cleaned up

Duh.

We still have a gushing oil well, for starters....

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