CallaFirestormBW
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ORIGINAL: mistoferin A few examples that I've run across in the last 24 hours...just for perspective... A guy who thinks that there should be NO rules or protocols at parties and clubs. Adults should be treated like adults and be free to practice whatever kinks they wish, however they wish. From my perspective, I think that any time you have a group of people gathering, it is important for there to be some basic rules about how they are going to interact. As an example, there are safety issues involved in things like fireplay and bloodplay that have to be able to be addressed in the environment in which one finds oneself. If they can't be addressed, then those types of play can't be allowed in that space. (For example, blood play requires the ability to clean and sterilize the space or have 100% disposable play space after one plays, so that blood-borne pathogens are not accidentally transmitted to others. It also requires space that can be cleaned properly BEFORE play or have the availability of 100% disposable play-space so that pathogens in the environment are not transmitted to the individual being punctured/pierced/cut. If the space is not amenable to such things, it simply can't be used for that kind of play without risking harm to people who have not consented under those circumstances.) The other reality about group play situations is that people come with varying packages of knowledge, experience, and behaviors. Unless you are holding a party (as we do sometimes in our household) where you know EVERYONE present, and already know that they share your philosophies on consent, activities, etc., play parties must have some guidelines for the safety and enjoyment of all the participants. I don't see this being an issue of MKINYK, so much as an issue of common sense (or lack thereof). The more "public" the event, the greater the need for some protection for the participants in the form of rules or guidelines. quote:
Forced anorexia. I think, to me, this depends on what one means by "forced" and "anorexia". The technical definition of anorexia is "loss of appetite", so unless one is inferring that one can force another person to stop being hungry, this is a matter of semantical mis-direction. However, it -is- possible to control another person's food consumption to obtain a certain physical profile, and -this- I have no problem with at all, provided that everyone involved agrees. In fact, I pay a nutritionist and personal trainer to do this for me on a regular basis. I pay them to create a plan that will manage my food intake and an exercise regimen that will enable me to meet certain physical goals. Now, these goals are -my- choice, but years and years ago, they were the decisions made by the designers I was under contract to model for, but I chose to be in that place... and even later in my life, while I was in training to earn my crop in the House I am part of, the goals about food and exercise were determined by my Keepers. I would definitely consider this to be an acceptable framework for YKINMK -- if "forced' in this case means "without consent", I'd say "that isn't kink -- it's abuse"... but if everyone is in agreement... I'd call it "My personal trainer!" quote:
Hot wax enemas. Is this even possible? I'd think that it's more 'wank material' than feasible, since I'd think the wax would harden in the transition from reservoir to body. Wax melts at 113-120 degrees F... the human body just doesn't stay that hot. Also, on delicate mucous membrane (the anus and rectum are not skin -- they are actually mucous membrane, more like the inside of the lips than the cheeks, etc.), hot wax is virtually guaranteed to cause blistering and swelling when applied, and thickening/scarring afterward (along with a LOT of excruciating pain and subsequent "evacuation" issues). Even so, I'd say that if everyone involved agreed to it, and the risks were clearly laid out in advance, it would definitely qualify, for me, as a MKINYK. Calla
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