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RE: Your kink is not my kink....what is your interpreta... - 6/16/2010 6:55:31 PM   
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For me it all stems from consentuality. There are a lot of practices that people consent to that I think are beyond stupid, beyond risky, beyond sick. But then there are some kinks that I have (and have spoken about here) that I've been totally jumped on for. So my own gauge about what I think is "fucked up" doesn't play into it.

From an objective point of view, as long as two people are doing what they want to do and not violating someone else, it's a kink.

If your thing is clunking unsuspecting old laides over the head and stealing their purses, it's not a kink. If your thing is slipping a drug into someone's drink without them knowing it, it's not a kink.

If your thing is shooting hot wax into someone's colon, and the other person wants that sensation, well, no matter how stupid or dangerous that might seem to me, it's still a kink.

So, for me it boils down to the willingness and consent of the parties involved.

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RE: Your kink is not my kink....what is your interpreta... - 6/16/2010 7:17:07 PM   
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......I would probably choose to either avoid or seriously limit any contact with extreemists as in my experience (noty in BDSM) extreemists are not the most mentally stable people on the planet.



I this is the main point where people start screaming others are being judgemental, which really isn't the case. Most of us around here find things like human toilets to be of the "extreme" variety. We will make jokes, we will openly admit we find it gross and don't want anything to do with it. But most of us also readily tell those involved, "have at it, get your jollies."

When you reach the REAL extremists, the people who want someone to kill them, those that want to force anorexia on someone else or have it forced on them, we do step out of the realm of "edge play," or being extreme and into the realm of people not being entirely mentally stable in some way. Typically, when the mentally healthy and reasonably intelligent are confronted with such things, we recognize that it isn't a situation of "your kink isn't my kink," but rather a situation where, for whatever reason, the people involved have lost the ability to make rational decisions about things.

At that point, whether one simply turns and walks away or makes some effort to guide the person towards appropriate help says more about the observer than the actor.


I agree with you on this, My comments were purely experience based elsewhere and other than the odd post here in CM on a discussion bases, I have zero experience and to the best of my knowledge, never run across a Real BDSM Extremest.




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RE: Your kink is not my kink....what is your interpreta... - 6/16/2010 7:35:38 PM   
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For me a lot of times it translates to "Your kink is not my kink and it would be too politically incorrect to say 'what the fuck is wrong with you?' so I won't say anything".

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RE: Your kink is not my kink....what is your interpreta... - 6/16/2010 8:48:53 PM   
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What does your "kink is not my kink" mean?

This is what the op asked. Not "Your kink is not my kink but that's okay", not "Your kink is not my kink and that's not okay", not "Your kink is not my kink but I judge it as being wrong"

What does "Your kink is not my Kink" Mean.

It means... You are Barking up the wrong fucking tree!

It is someone saying what you are into is not what they are into, any judgement they place on it after that is their own, and rightfully so. In the end if you are into something I am not into we aren't going to partner, or if I think the sex will be good then I'll refrain from saying that until you try to get me to do what is not my kink.

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RE: Your kink is not my kink....what is your interpreta... - 6/16/2010 8:55:06 PM   
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For me it means you are into things I am not into. My opinion and squick factor may vary depending on what it is. I am intolerant of some things others get into, that is my opinion. I am enraged at some things people get into, like things that involve animals for one thing. That is me. I am dead against it, do not think it is okay on any level, that is me.



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RE: Your kink is not my kink....what is your interpreta... - 6/16/2010 9:17:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

I agree with you on this, My comments were purely experience based elsewhere and other than the odd post here in CM on a discussion bases, I have zero experience and to the best of my knowledge, never run across a Real BDSM Extremest.



Thankfully when it comes to the type of extremist we are talking about, I have also be lucky not to come across them outside of this site.

I comfort myself with the concept that those types of extremists who post those ideas here are "extending" their fantasy by talking about it here, but would never carry the reality out. I realize that may be naive, but it is much better than the alternative of believing that someone is really seriously looking for someone to kill them.

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

For me a lot of times it translates to "Your kink is not my kink and it would be too politically incorrect to say 'what the fuck is wrong with you?' so I won't say anything".


Very well said. Also one of the reason I will never be considered politically correct. Nor would I ever want to.

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RE: Your kink is not my kink....what is your interpreta... - 6/17/2010 9:54:32 AM   
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For me a lot of times it translates to "Your kink is not my kink and it would be too politically incorrect to say 'what the fuck is wrong with you?' so I won't say anything".

Unfortunately that's exactly right.

On the surface, the proverb is great- it says "We don't have to like the same things, but you go and do your thing."

In reality it usually means "You're disgusting but I don't have enough leverage or balls to make something out of it so I'll pander."

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RE: Your kink is not my kink....what is your interpreta... - 6/17/2010 10:08:39 AM   
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For me it pretty much boils down to "Well, might not be my thing, and I may tease you about it but only in good fun, nothing really insulting of course, but I'll still even be willing to talk with you about it.  Just know it's not my gig, don't try to get me to do it, and I'll have the same respect for you."

Unless it's something illegal, in which case depending on the level of it I'll do anything from inform them that I'd rather not hear about their illegal activities, up to informing them that anything they are telling me about this will be told to the authorities.

If it's legal though, hey, whatever floats your boat.  You like watersports, I don't... whatever.  You like coleslaw, I don't... whatever.  I like girly boys, you don't... whatever.  No one is getting hurt (in a way they don't want) by it, so have fun.


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RE: Your kink is not my kink....what is your interpreta... - 6/17/2010 10:41:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

A few examples that I've run across in the last 24 hours...just for perspective...

A guy who thinks that there should be NO rules or protocols at parties and clubs. Adults should be treated like adults and be free to practice whatever kinks they wish, however they wish.




From my perspective, I think that any time you have a group of people gathering, it is important for there to be some basic rules about how they are going to interact. As an example, there are safety issues involved in things like fireplay and bloodplay that have to be able to be addressed in the environment in which one finds oneself. If they can't be addressed, then those types of play can't be allowed in that space. (For example, blood play requires the ability to clean and sterilize the space or have 100% disposable play space after one plays, so that blood-borne pathogens are not accidentally transmitted to others. It also requires space that can be cleaned properly BEFORE play or have the availability of 100% disposable play-space so that pathogens in the environment are not transmitted to the individual being punctured/pierced/cut. If the space is not amenable to such things, it simply can't be used for that kind of play without risking harm to people who have not consented under those circumstances.)

The other reality about group play situations is that people come with varying packages of knowledge, experience, and behaviors. Unless you are holding a party (as we do sometimes in our household) where you know EVERYONE present, and already know that they share your philosophies on consent, activities, etc., play parties must have some guidelines for the safety and enjoyment of all the participants. I don't see this being an issue of MKINYK, so much as an issue of common sense (or lack thereof). The more "public" the event, the greater the need for some protection for the participants in the form of rules or guidelines.

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Forced anorexia.


I think, to me, this depends on what one means by "forced" and "anorexia". The technical definition of anorexia is "loss of appetite", so unless one is inferring that one can force another person to stop being hungry, this is a matter of semantical mis-direction. However, it -is- possible to control another person's food consumption to obtain a certain physical profile, and -this- I have no problem with at all, provided that everyone involved agrees. In fact, I pay a nutritionist and personal trainer to do this for me on a regular basis. I pay them to create a plan that will manage my food intake and an exercise regimen that will enable me to meet certain physical goals. Now, these goals are -my- choice, but years and years ago, they were the decisions made by the designers I was under contract to model for, but I chose to be in that place... and even later in my life, while I was in training to earn my crop in the House I am part of, the goals about food and exercise were determined by my Keepers.

I would definitely consider this to be an acceptable framework for YKINMK -- if "forced' in this case means "without consent", I'd say "that isn't kink -- it's abuse"... but if everyone is in agreement... I'd call it "My personal trainer!" 

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Hot wax enemas.


Is this even possible? I'd think that it's more 'wank material' than feasible, since I'd think the wax would harden in the transition from reservoir to body. Wax melts at 113-120 degrees F... the human body just doesn't stay that hot. Also, on delicate mucous membrane (the anus and rectum are not skin -- they are actually mucous membrane, more like the inside of the lips than the cheeks, etc.), hot wax is virtually guaranteed to cause blistering and swelling when applied, and thickening/scarring afterward (along with a LOT of excruciating pain and subsequent "evacuation" issues). Even so, I'd say that if everyone involved agreed to it, and the risks were clearly laid out in advance, it would definitely qualify, for me, as a MKINYK.

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RE: Your kink is not my kink....what is your interpreta... - 6/17/2010 3:00:26 PM   
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RE: Your kink is not my kink....what is your interpreta... - 6/17/2010 3:38:46 PM   
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hot wax is virtually guaranteed to cause blistering and swelling when applied, and thickening/scarring afterward (along with a LOT of excruciating pain and subsequent "evacuation" issues). Even so, I'd say that if everyone involved agreed to it, and the risks were clearly laid out in advance, it would definitely qualify, for me, as a MKINYK.
Depending on the amount of damage we're talking about here... or more accurately the potential medical costs, I have a different saying, IDWTPFYK -- "I don't want to pay for your kink". I'm pretty much not OK with any "kink" which significantly drives up insurance costs. I'd call that non-consensually involving others.

I've always wondered if the insurance companies should offer BDSM riders. Aren't other high-risk activities excluded?

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RE: Your kink is not my kink....what is your interpreta... - 6/17/2010 8:15:08 PM   
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In reality it usually means "You're disgusting but I don't have enough leverage or balls to make something out of it so I'll pander."
Nah, it's not about leverage or balls. It's more about not having the patience to listen to someone prattle on about why I should think something I think is insane/unsafe/harmful is actually sane/safe//healthy.

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RE: Your kink is not my kink....what is your interpreta... - 6/17/2010 10:28:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

On the surface, the proverb is great- it says "We don't have to like the same things, but you go and do your thing."

In reality it usually means "You're disgusting but I don't have enough leverage or balls to make something out of it so I'll pander."


This may be true for you and your friends but in a wider world, it can also mean that: "I respect your right to do your thing even though I do not like it. I do not want to become involved with the practices thank you."

Nothing about a lack of balls but a lot to do with maturity and the ability to allow someone to have their own beliefs as long as they do not try to convert you to theirs or start harming bystanders (Collateral damage).


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RE: Your kink is not my kink....what is your interpreta... - 6/18/2010 7:43:46 AM   
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To me: It means I don't have to like it, I don't have to approve of it, I don't have to think it's a good idea because you like it, you approve of it, and you think it's a good idea. I may or may not choose to engage someone in discussion/debate on the matter, depending on the circumstances, my interest and mood at the time.

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