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RE: Obama Refused State Of The Art Skimmers - 6/16/2010 3:04:46 PM   
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more jibberish from an old man, who thinks it was prudent to refuse help, which would have removed millions of barreles of oil fromt he water so far.


And what lies about Palin?



All this trollish diversion.....

The fact that you've yet to provide any documentation for the fact that Palin took a stern line towards BP when she was fiddling Alaska's taxes to build her new house suggests that you're talking out of your arse about that one. This is the internet, remember: if you can't provide a link for something, then it never happened and you're a liar.

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RE: Obama Refused State Of The Art Skimmers - 6/16/2010 3:05:32 PM   
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Go flip your fuckin burgers, you don't belong here with people who have at least a 60 IQ, I don't want to see you teased and tortured like that.

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RE: Obama Refused State Of The Art Skimmers - 6/16/2010 3:06:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Luckydawg is a douchebag. Who really cares whether in this one instance he might actually have a valid point?

This one rare and shining moment is far outweighed by the depths of his past douchery.

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RE: Obama Refused State Of The Art Skimmers - 6/16/2010 3:08:32 PM   
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This thread is about Obama refusing to use oil skimmers that would have removed over 7 million barrels of oil from the water so far.


Obviously, your side can't defend his actions (or you would simply do so), so several trollish stratagies are being implemented.



Changing the subject.

lies.

Insults.


Just an average day for the leftist trolls.

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RE: Obama Refused State Of The Art Skimmers - 6/16/2010 3:09:55 PM   
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RE: Obama Refused State Of The Art Skimmers - 6/16/2010 3:10:52 PM   
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No, only in troll world.


This thread is about Obama refusing to use oil skimmers that would have removed over 7 million barrels of oil from the water so far.


Obviously, your side can't defend his actions (or you would simply do so), so several trollish stratagies are being implemented.



Changing the subject.

lies.

Insults.


Just an average day for the leftist trolls.

I'm in koo koo land not trollword, remember? (Is that an AD&D setting?)
And I'm on neither side. It's impossible to tell your two parts apart besides whose whining like a schoolgirl when one bunch wins an election.
D- must try harder.

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RE: Obama Refused State Of The Art Skimmers - 6/16/2010 3:12:47 PM   
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well, tell us how chainsaw sarah returned alaska to a pristine environment and forced the Exxon company to actually clean up the sound.

Go flip your fuckin burgers, you don't belong here with people who have at least a 60 IQ, I don't want to see you teased and tortured like that.




Palin wasn't govenor durring the Valdez spill.

Never said she returned Alaska to a pristine evniroment. or forced the sound to actually be cleaned up.


Never said anything like that.


Once the oil hits the beach or sinks, it can't be cleaned up.


Thats why the delay in skimming is so critical.

And thats why the use of dispersants was criminal.

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RE: Obama Refused State Of The Art Skimmers - 6/16/2010 3:18:31 PM   
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RE: Obama Refused State Of The Art Skimmers - 6/16/2010 3:22:17 PM   
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Fact: Obama declined offers of foreign assistance immediately after the accident.

Reasons why that dawg is valiantly ignoring.
1) BP initially claimed no oil was leaking and then that no more than 1000 barrels a day was lealing.
2) BP was required to have an emergency response plan able to handle the worst case scenario.
3) BP was the party hiring skimmers not the federal government. They were certainly free to hire those foreign skimmers out of their pocket.
4) The ODS sufferers would have gone into apoplexy over him "surrendering US sovereignity" to foreign government.
5) The ODS sufferers would have found a US skimmer somehwere that was idle and then make an enormous stink about how Obama sent US jobs overseas.

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RE: Obama Refused State Of The Art Skimmers - 6/16/2010 3:25:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sounds to me like Sarah Palin ought to be held liable for the whole mess.

Her negligence in failing to fulfil her patriotic duty in this instance, and disclose to the government and its agencies the correct methodologies to employ to prevent this mess is patently clear and must attract substantial remedial as well as punitive damages. However I propose her liability be limited to $75million, given her friends think this an appropriate sum and it be assumed she feels likewise.

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RE: Obama Refused State Of The Art Skimmers - 6/16/2010 3:27:17 PM   
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5) The ODS sufferers would have found a US skimmer somehwere that was idle and then make an enormous stink about how Obama sent US jobs overseas.


I'd not thought of that one.

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RE: Obama Refused State Of The Art Skimmers - 6/16/2010 3:27:47 PM   
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Even Domiguy agrees with me.


I actually do agree with you. In hindsight Obama should have been much more proactive. Immediately it should have been ascertained exactly how much oil was being spilled out.

The skimmers obviously have some limitations but they would have been effective in removing some of the oil. does it matter whether the oil is burned off or skimmed? It might produce similar results but it seems that skimming the oil is much more ecologically friendly than a burn.

This is such a horrible tragedy. All of the teabaggers that call for less govt intervention into the workings of private business are now dramatically changing their tunes.

As long as they can find a path to criticize the current administration they don't care how much of their own cum laden beliefs they have to swallow to do so.

Manipulated puppets.

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RE: Obama Refused State Of The Art Skimmers - 6/16/2010 3:30:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		actually the article that Mnot posted showed that it was 3 days after the explosion (not immediately) that dutch skimmers (state of the art and better than any in America) were refused. For the reason that they put a tiny bit of oil in the water as they operate.


The Dutch offered to send the help as aid. there was no hiring involved.

Christ, Obama can't even deal with BP, and he is supposed to deal with Iran and N Korea?


But it is funny that you are copying us and calling it Obama Derangement Syndrome.


Dems are just followers, they can't even make up their own quips.

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RE: Obama Refused State Of The Art Skimmers - 6/16/2010 3:34:40 PM   
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actually the article that Mnot posted showed that it was 3 days after the explosion (not immediately) that dutch skimmers (state of the art and better than any in America) were refused. For the reason that they put a tiny bit of oil in the water as they operate.


The Dutch offered to send the help as aid. there was no hiring involved.

Christ, Obama can't even deal with BP, and he is supposed to deal with Iran and N Korea?


But it is funny that you are copying us and calling it Obama Derangement Syndrome.


Dems are just followers, they can't even make up their own quips.


The reality is that it is BP's mess to cleanup.

I wonder how much BP's liability would have been if this "accident" would have happened under Cheney's watch?

You should be thankful as a taxpayer that Obama is the one dealing with BP in lieu of your Drill baby, drill fucksticks.

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RE: Obama Refused State Of The Art Skimmers - 6/16/2010 3:35:14 PM   
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Dems are just followers, they can't even make up their own quips.

I suggest you have a look at the online OED under "irony".

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RE: Obama Refused State Of The Art Skimmers - 6/16/2010 3:36:45 PM   
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right. Bobby Jindal.......

pathetic shit, same shit they have done forever, not one fucking thing.

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RE: Obama Refused State Of The Art Skimmers - 6/16/2010 3:36:51 PM   
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Earlier in this tangled thread someone made the most pertinent observation---BP was lying about the severity of the spill and about their capacity for handling it from the first hour---Obama's error was trusting a multinational  corporate giant to have some knowledge about to handle their own stupid error. 


BP underestimated the size of the leak. Just the same as the US administration did last week. As for the corporate giant handling their own error. What makes you think anyone else had a solution that would work ?

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RE: Obama Refused State Of The Art Skimmers - 6/16/2010 3:38:55 PM   
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Such a small and simple world you must live in, how sad.

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RE: Obama Refused State Of The Art Skimmers - 6/16/2010 3:42:58 PM   
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So moon you think copying someone else is Ironic.



Such a small and simple world you must live in, how sad.

No, I think the fact that you're accusing democrats of doing the same thing you spend all of your time in here doing ironic.
(And pathetic, but that's a harsher word.)

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RE: Obama Refused State Of The Art Skimmers - 6/16/2010 3:54:19 PM   
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Earlier in this tangled thread someone made the most pertinent observation---BP was lying about the severity of the spill and about their capacity for handling it from the first hour---Obama's error was trusting a multinational  corporate giant to have some knowledge about to handle their own stupid error. 

Bingo.

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