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tazzygirl -> RE: Why do people think it's ok to strawman an atheist? (6/21/2010 9:05:31 AM)
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****Tazzy, I am sure that you have in the past called someone an idiot or similar
I have called many people many names. But i have never labled a whole group of individuals as anything.
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When I'm dissed, I remember that on average, people with religion tend to have lower IQ's, to have trouble reasoning and to obey paternalistic authority, to react irrationally, unpredictably, physically and violently, to be racist [giving preferential treatment to people of their own religion], to rape, and embezzle.
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People, especially stupid people, tend to strawman everything. Religion is dumb, everyone with half a brain already knows....ya just have to ignore them as best you can and...essentially...wait for them to die. Religion's been decreasing consistently for a couple of hundred years, it will go eventually...too retarded to survive.
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Smart people = less religious, stupid people = more religious, in the same way that smart people are less likely to accidentally set themselves on fire. Setting yourself on fire isn't a CAUSE of stupidity, it's a SIGN of stupidity. Anyone who sets themselves on fire by mistake....probably not too sharp. Not being religious doesn't cause you to be more intelligent, being more intelligent causes you to be less religious.
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just from thinking about the people you know if you don't want to give creedence to any studies, religious people & stupid people are in most cases the same group.
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religion is primarily a result of stupidity, not a cause.
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Usually I just stick with the whole 'there is no god, numbnuts' thing (see pic), but the hypocrisy of so many people who claim to follow x religion, when really they just call themselves that to have a widely used label and follow their own rules...it annoys me. At least fundamentalists make sense:they're just stupid &/or ill educated.
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Re the last part, like I said, I use the nonsensical claim of god to 'condemn' religious people.
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The atheist has faith in the reasonableness of his conclusion. Two very different uses of the word. Knowingly or not, you are conflating the two meanings for rhetorical purposes. A bit of sophism in your argument.
I missed this one earlier. Vincent, both have faith in their position. I have faith there is a higher power. What that power is, i dont know. An atheist has faith there isnt. I see no difference in the use of the word "faith".
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To whatever degree most Christians are willing to admit their belief system is one of faith is often overshadowed by the need to convince non believers of the parity between faith and reason, especially scientfiic reason. I see it as a desperate tactic to remain relevent among increasingly skeptical younger generations who are rejecting organized religion as scientific discovery becomes more mainstream and accepted as fact.
Ah, now we go from religion to organized religion. One does not need to be a part of an organized religion to have religion or be a religious person. As a side note, it seems the argument here is against christians, yet there are many religions and organized religions in the world. Again, it seems atheists are trying a "one size fits all" argument... and that wont wash.
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Maybe that's because athiesm isn't ruining mankind, but religion is incredibly stupid?
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ITT - Religious people strawman the ever living fuck out of athiesm
Woody, bet you can pick out your own quotes from this list. You have a bad habit when dealing with religion of lumping everyone into that tightly designed box you created. Problem is, people dont fit into boxes.
You seem to believe religious people are stupid. Many a scientists, Dr, researcher have a religious foundation, many are religious themselves. But that doesnt fit into your nice little box.
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