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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Nixon "isn't even close"?

There you go, folks. Partisanship isn't going to get any blinder than that.

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The wider point I'd make is that obstructionism is hurting the U.S.

Deliberately holding up appointees, for example, as has happened over the past few administrations, over matters not even related to the appointee, is indefensible. Someone is going to have to step in to change the rules.

But more generally, used to be, decades ago, people sat down with the opposition and worked out compromises. Now the feeling is that if an opposing view didn't win, the problem was we didn't oppose strictly enough.

It has become about power at all costs. Even the justice system has become overtly politicized over the past decade. The only check is the American people (remember the permanent Republican majority?), but even here, the trend is toward not saner government, but toward opposition of government--essentially a desire for mob rule. Just look at the rhetoric in many threads here.

Will it change? Not in November, however the elections go--that will only change the names on the same old patterns.

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Not at all. This is just silly. Roll and point if it pleases you.

First, "why didn't Obama do anything about BP," then comparing this to Nixon's criminal activity and overt admission that he thought himself above the law, legally?

Not to mention you're cherry picking, and rather bizarrely, from my much wider, non-partisan observation about the thread--obstructionism.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

The wider point I'd make is that obstructionism is hurting the U.S.

Deliberately holding up appointees, for example, as has happened over the past few administrations, over matters not even related to the appointee, is indefensible. Someone is going to have to step in to change the rules.

But more generally, used to be, decades ago, people sat down with the opposition and worked out compromises. Now the feeling is that if an opposing view didn't win, the problem was we didn't oppose strictly enough.

It has become about power at all costs. Even the justice system has become overtly politicized over the past decade. The only check is the American people (remember the permanent Republican majority?), but even here, the trend is toward not saner government, but toward opposition of government--essentially a desire for mob rule. Just look at the rhetoric in many threads here.

Will it change? Not in November, however the elections go--that will only change the names on the same old patterns.

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1. I raised Nixon whining.
2. Someone else started the Rep angle--I posted about a common problem.
3. You brought it back to partisanship. Well done. Nixon Saint. Obama Devil. Got it. Writing it down.

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Like I said.

Enjoy.

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Poor horsey.

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ROFL. given Obamas illegal strongarming of BP this isnt even close

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forgot his pic

No great loss, you should have left it out.

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ROFL. given Obamas illegal strongarming of BP this isnt even close

Illegal strong arming of BP because they negotiated an agreement to compensate the people hurt by the spill?

What exactly was illegal and why was the agreement a bad thing?

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Nixon "isn't even close"?

There you go, folks. Partisanship isn't going to get any blinder than that.

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ROFL. given Obamas illegal strongarming of BP this isnt even close

Illegal strong arming of BP because they negotiated an agreement to compensate the people hurt by the spill?

What exactly was illegal and why was the agreement a bad thing?

What do you think was "negotiated". LMAO.

Its a bad thing because investments in US companies have thrived because we were viewed as a nation of laws, where one despot doesnt have the ability to exceed his authority to punish whoever the fuck he feels like punishing. As Blowboy continues down the path of de facto socialism every company's financing will suffer, not just the his villain of the day.

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1. You raised Nixon being above the law. Nothing Nixon did came close to being as illegal and as potentially costly to the US as his strongarming of BP.

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It is not obstruction to me. It is just members from different parties with different points of veiw. It has been this way since this country was founded.