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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

I read the OP. I would say it is her nature to try to help anyone.

Knowing her from her posts only I would say folks could do worse.

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ORIGINAL: barelynangel

Even when someone is toting themselves to BE a certain profession Jeff and they utilize same to attempt to get credibility to discount someone?

I mean the OP herself says -- as a mental health professional i have a duty.   You don't believe clarification of that should be questioned IF they are using same to indicate their information is MORE correct?

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ORIGINAL: barelynangel

Even when someone is toting themselves to BE a certain profession Jeff and they utilize same to attempt to get credibility to discount someone?

I mean the OP herself says -- as a mental health professional i have a duty.   You don't believe clarification of that should be questioned IF they are using same to indicate their information is MORE correct?

Sorry, i disagree, while yes i do agree its stupid for people to take any advise regarding things like mental health and medical and legal online from anonymous nicknames, i believe when someone uses the statement i am a mental health professional or i am a medical professional or i am a legal professional to make a point can be questioned because THEY are opening it for further examination.  Professional how and in what capacity?  IF people don't want to open themselves up for further examination of their credentials then they shouldn't USE a vague concept to support whatever they say unless they are ready for further examination into same.

If they are posting as simply an anonymous nickname then they aren't opening themselves up for same. 

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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Hello all,

My question was where do you draw the line about information when you have experience, knowledge, etc. in a field. Holly has done an excellent job expressing her own professional line in the sand, and for that I am grateful. *You get a big gold star for staying on topic!

I'm not posting my private, educational, or professional information. As many know, there is more than one person who stalks me on this website. I must keep that in mind for safety's sake.

Thank you Julia for speaking so eloquently about privacy issues. If someone would like to approach me personally, I'd be happy to refer them in the areas that I have some knowledge in (including things like self-defense, dance workshops, self-help groups, teaching certifications, 12 step programs, etc.).

At the end of the day, we all can put out the information that we choose to share. It is of course up to the reader to do their own research and decide whether they want to believe a bunch of yahoos on a message board (including myself).

best,
sunshine

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ORIGINAL: barelynangel

Even when someone is toting themselves to BE a certain profession Jeff and they utilize same to attempt to get credibility to discount someone?

I mean the OP herself says -- as a mental health professional i have a duty.   You don't believe clarification of that should be questioned IF they are using same to indicate their information is MORE correct?

First,  that isn't what she said.

This is what she said in the OP:
"When there are threads with blatant inaccurate information being touted, I have often felt it was my duty as a mental health professional to clarify if no one else did. I have thought of it as people being in harms way."

How do you see any harm if she is presenting correct information whether or not she is a mental health professional?

I don't think that one necessarily needs to be a degreed professional anything to present accurate information with the intention of presenting a clarification.
Knowledge of facts and a way of clearly communicating them are usually adequate criteria, don't you think?

Second, I don't think on an anonymous board anyone has the right to expect people to reveal personal information on demand.
Certainly they can request it privately, but demanding it?

barelyngel,

I can only speak for me.
It is my perception that you often come across as hostile.
I don't know if my perception is correct, and if it is something you are even aware of.

I find it likewise interesting that to me it seems like you are frequently defensive in your responses.

My perception does not make it so.

I think you are bright and very knowledgeable and I am feeling very limited by being puzzled by something that is frankly none of my business and yet is present so often on these forums.

Why do you seem so pissed off?

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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss


My question was where do you draw the line about information when you have experience, knowledge, etc. in a field.

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I could care less what her profession actually was, however, KNOWING it helps distinguish exactly what her duty would be to the general public as to advise etc. 

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ORIGINAL: barelynangel

shakes my head you people are way to intent to find my questions as an attack or hostile.  yes i know you al want to make this all about me questioning sunshine as to what exactly her profession is or was in the very vague mental heath professions. I don't have to use a thread to attack her and i also asked Holly the same question and no one seems to be whining i am hostile or such because of my questions to her-- jumping into to attack people in threads is the agenda of many of the people on these boards but its not mine because i have no issue with telling people what i think of them, but i usually do it in private and i usually do it when they message me. 

Same question to two people and i have a negative motive towards one and an informational interest motive in another?  Come on folks, you are tryng to hard here.

Opps i deleted this part but please explain to me the different between:
"I have often felt it was my duty as a mental health professional "
and "as a mental health professional i have a duty"

The REASON i was asking for specifics is different levels of professions have different professional standards and ethics.  I could care less what her profession actually was, however, KNOWING it helps distinguish exactly what her duty would be to the general public as to advise etc.  Her education, the level of same, and the type of same, and whether or not she is licensed would have an weight to duty. 

There are some professions that if you are on the street and someone say faints and you say i am a medical professional and you indicate what someone else is doing or saying or such and negative consequences come out of your doing so -- you can be sued under medical malpractice and depending on what actually is your profession you could be put up on criminal charges. 

I know many people only want to see my posts as some huge negative concept or i am just hostile etc, and i am sure some people know that i have rejected friendships with sunshine in the past, but sorry i am not like most people i don't use posts to convey an attack simply becaue i don't care for someone.  I do attack yes, but i try and attack the topic and when someone uses themselves as part of that topic it may seem like i am attacking them, but i have no need to do so.   Take it or leave it i am sure most of yo will feel better leaving it because you want to think what you want.  smiles, its okay.  i understand.



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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

It isn't just a matter of licensed or unlicensed. Someone said that to her a social worker is the same as a clinical psychologist. That's wrong. There is no way someone who gets a bachelors in social work is equal to someone with a PhD who has also done training in a psych hospital. One is much more competent than the other.

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

Anyone who comes to this web site looking for in depth advice on any topic except bdsm is stupid.

Anyone who questions the advice or qualifications of the folks here is unaware.

It should ALL be questioned. With regards to mental health any adivce other than. "seek professional help" should be ignored.

Anyone who demands evidence of qualifications can go fuck themselves.