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RE: The British ? - 6/22/2010 5:03:12 AM

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But didnt you realise that English is the language Jesus spoke in? I mean, its in every Bible in my house as proof*, and so establishes equally that speaking any other language is grounds for suspicion of ungodliness.

(* except the Luther Bibel I have)

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RE: The British ? - 6/22/2010 5:13:14 AM

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The really hilarious thing about that stupidity was the way a whiney television chef seemed to have more influence on what the kids were fed than the education minister. What the fuck was that all about?
Good point about the preprocessed crap, though.

Well, the preprocessed crap is so apparent to me as I am not used to it from home. I am not saying that we wouldn't have it we do as well (or at least I think we do, as apart from a pizza sometimes, I never bought prepared food at home and even that I did often myself at home from scratch, and scratch means scratch not like some of my employers who buy a pizza base for the clients as they arent able to trust staff to do the base themselves and name that as having made pizza from scratch

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However, in 2005 I had an awful kitchenette in my flat in willesden green where I then temporarily lived on ready meals as real cooking simply got very messy very fast at that place...and I experienced during that time to wake up every 1-2 hours during the night which was pretty annoying...once I bought a huge chopping board which covered my 2 cooking plates in there and then cooked my vegetable soup from scratch I then - what a surprise - started to sleep through like a baby again (and as I had only 4 hours sleep during the week and 6 hours sleep at weekends with my work schedule at that time I needed proper sleep).

So in my opinion that was linked to that crap which is why I am pretty harsh against it. At work I often have my debates with colleagues who find it perfectely acceptable to buy that crap for our clients with learning disabilities, coming up with comments a la "but they are used to it" and "thats what they wanted." Where I just think WTF??? When they eg chose lasagne or spaghetti bolognese or even more worse maccaroni cheese on their menu...they don't insist on having it served via crap ready meals

Seriously, the list how some staff defend to buy that crap...is just endless.

And so I simply realised in the last years that back home we dont have such a variety in the first place...

I dont know who it was with whom I had a debate about it recently but someone said that cooking wouldnt be much part of the school agenda over here...now...I dont know if that is true as I dont know anyone with school kids here, however back home we had cooking classes once a week and we had to do an exam about that at the end from the 9th and the 10th year at school.

So basic cooking and baking skills were pretty likely to be in place once you leave school...

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RE: The British ? - 6/22/2010 5:14:28 AM

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British = Benny Hill, full stop

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RE: The British ? - 6/22/2010 5:17:54 AM

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But didnt you realise that English is the language Jesus spoke in? I mean, its in every Bible in my house as proof*, and so establishes equally that speaking any other language is grounds for suspicion of ungodliness.

(* except the Luther Bibel I have)

E

yep...I know...and then of course it's the other cultures who are claimed to be arrogant

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RE: The British ? - 6/22/2010 5:18:09 AM

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Interestingly, one of the first things I was told when I was diagnosed with diabetes was not to eat anything out of a tin, and steer clear of any kind of prepped and packaged stuff. I've never been into that stuff much in the first place, but it was still an eye opener. Most of it's loaded with sugar, which might have had something to do with the trouble it was causing with your sleeping.

They used to have home ec lessons, but I think those are long gone, now.

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RE: The British ? - 6/22/2010 5:19:27 AM

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British = Benny Hill, full stop

There's more British yet: have you not heard of Motorhead or Monty Python's Flying Circus?

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RE: The British ? - 6/22/2010 5:22:43 AM

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Interestingly, one of the first things I was told when I was diagnosed with diabetes was not to eat anything out of a tin, and steer clear of any kind of prepped and packaged stuff. I've never been into that stuff much in the first place, but it was still an eye opener. Most of it's loaded with sugar, which might have had something to do with the trouble it was causing with your sleeping.

They used to have home ec lessons, but I think those are long gone, now.

It was just scary how it impacted on my sleep...

how little did I know that two years later I have the same sleep issues...but this time caused from my fibromyalgia and including severe pain as a reason to wake up all the time...which means by now I am on meds which numbns my nerves to get proper pain free sleep over here (and nope, am not blaming it on the UK...just saying that my life here is very different then what it used to be, which is one of many reasons for me to move on

)

Also for me it appears to me that the gap between rich and poor is much bigger here then back home and the room sizes are rather small (yeah I know...it is on an isle after all

) for rather expensive properties

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RE: The British ? - 6/22/2010 5:22:47 AM

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Actually, on that note here's the most British song ever recorded...

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RE: The British ? - 6/22/2010 5:26:49 AM

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The modern Brits abroad....arrrgh, I have seen it, I have done my share of cheap package holidays to Portugal, the Algarve, and it made me cringe to think what I saw was my own countrymen abroad. When I travel abroad, I try to stay unnoticed, low key that sort of thing, but those that make me cringe are so blatantly Brits for they are loud, uncaring and arrogant, even offensive in some ways to the indigenous population and me.

Now, my understanding is when one goes abroad, it is an adventure, everything is, even the food, but in the holiday resorts I have been to down there on the Med, British food is commonly available and they are stacked out with customers eating British type food, bangers and mash, egg and chips etc. The Mediterranean holiday resorts I have likened to Blackpool with sun, as they are so similar.

When I partake of the cheap foreign package deals, I do so only for the hotel, cheap flight and transfers, but when I get to my destination, I hire a car and get the hell out of it, drive and see something of the country I have visited and find non tourist beaches.

But I also have reverted to the use of a foreign language in the presence of my countrymen, especially the pests that try to find Brits to sell them a timeshare. Though I am not fluent or even near capable in another language, I do know bits of some Scandinavian languages and German and I use a mix of what I know to let the pests think I am foreign and there no interest to them.

It's sad really, when abroad trying not to be associated with your countrymen also abroad speaks volumes to those we visit. When questioned why we keep away, the answer is because they are so embarrassing and not indicative of many of our people, not all our people are like that, but unfortunately many foreign country's oppinion of us comes from what they met on holiday, be they the residents or other holiday makers.

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RE: The British ? - 6/22/2010 5:40:39 AM

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British = Benny Hill, full stop

There's more British yet: have you not heard of Motorhead or Monty Python's Flying Circus?

I will stick with Benny Hill. I love the little bald headed dude. that shit is funny

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RE: The British ? - 6/22/2010 5:41:13 AM

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And that's without even getting started on the football hoolies...

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RE: The British ? - 6/22/2010 5:42:24 AM

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Fair enough. No idea why he went over so big in the 'States: he's massive there, isn't he?

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RE: The British ? - 6/22/2010 5:45:32 AM

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Yeah I guess. pretty addicting.

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RE: The British ? - 6/22/2010 5:47:16 AM

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On the subject of culinary skills and gastronomy, I think it just about summed it up when Oliver went to teach some average Brits how to cook, and in all honesty they had no idea how to bring water to a rolling boil. When we're talking about that level of ignorance we're likely to have to go back to absolute basics with "Cooking 101 - The Quest For Fire".

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RE: The British ? - 6/22/2010 5:52:24 AM

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Maybe it's that fact that it is a package tour that is the problem?
I've not really come across negativity when on holiday. But then I don't do packages. (I sound a snob I know).

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RE: The British ? - 6/22/2010 5:58:53 AM

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But regarding what others thought of the Brits, it is interesting to note the mention of Benny Hill ,Monty Python's Flying Circus, Fawlty Towers etc, great British classics and classics from an earlier less politically correct Britain. Of the three shows mentioned, they are past, gone only repeats to be shown now and again, for the comedy that seems to make Britain famous is what, 1970's ? That's forty years ago not so far off half a century, so could foreign people be judging the British on what they might have been like forty years ago rather than what they are in the twenty first century.

As to what they are now, well political correctness has taken it's toll as has the sue 'em mentality and compensation for hurt feelings which I believe are both imports from the US, the result is Britons appear to be wrapped up in cotton wool to others. They have created a situation where it is very profitable to be engaged in law and the people no longer totally free to express themselves as it is thought Britons by nature are racists that based upon our non PC tv shows from the past which have travelled around the world for all to see.

What I understand from observation is Britons are now scared to be free and easy and well Britons in public for fear of being called a racist or some other nouveau dirty word and there risk ostracisation. I think when the beer is in the uncouth Briton is released and perhaps what people hear and see there think this is the true Brit, but could it be the Brit letting their hair down under the alcohol induced freedom of drunkeness, something they seem more capable of doing, perhaps because the pressures in British society weigh heavy these days.

The racist jokes, at one time someone would say it in a pub and everyone would hear and laugh, now the pub is silent of questionable jokes for fear of upsetting someone. Jokes are humour nothing more, they are not an attack although they are perceived to be and an indication that Brits are racist bigots at heart, which for many of them, they are not, as humour is humour and they can accept jokes about themselves as they can give it out to others.

I think even the Brits don't know or understand themselves, they are being fragmented and deprived of their once common comeradery.

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RE: The British ? - 6/22/2010 6:18:01 AM

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The problem with "racist jokes" A, is that their origin and purpose is in the division of the British people, at their own hands, to the intent of latent vilification that supports hatred, fear and ultimately violence. That one cannot readily get away with them any more is a good sign that we are slowly but surely integrating, despite the failure that is multi-culturalism, recognising that wherever someone came from to get here doesnt necessarily mean theyre not part of the tribe, albeit on provisional basis right now perhaps; you dont insult your guests after all, if your guests adapt to the house rules.

When we can again tell "racist jokes" because they are about us - all of us as Brits, that will be a great day; not one I'm likely to see though I fancy.

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RE: The British ? - 6/22/2010 6:26:50 AM

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Racist jokes could well be a product of a past world dominating empire and with it the belittlement of subjugated foreigners. If the racist joke is British in origin, then it's design and purpose must be to elevate the scum to do their master's bidding on the grounds of perceived superiority over those joked about.

They are wrong, very wrong, but why do many people find them so funny, could it be those who find the humour are in fact racists at heart ?

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RE: The British ? - 6/22/2010 6:28:58 AM

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As far as "the accent" goes, non-Brits tend to think of the British accent as what we Brits might refer to as 'BBC' English.
There are not only very different accents in England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland (which is also part of Britain) but there are rich regional variations often within small geographical distances.

And we don't understand any of them.

We need to teach you how to speak American.

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RE: The British ? - 6/22/2010 6:31:19 AM

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

Racist jokes could well be a product of a past world dominating empire and with it the belittlement of subjugated foreigners. If the racist joke is British in origin, then it's design and purpose must be to elevate the scum to do their master's bidding on the grounds of perceived superiority over those joked about.

They are wrong, very wrong, but why do many people find them so funny, could it be those who find the humour are in fact racists at heart ?

You read into things far too much.

Sometimes humor is just humor.

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